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Title: Capitalism won
Post by: formerlurker on February 20, 2014, 06:09:44 AM

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ashling (21,260 posts)

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024532796

Dearest ashling, we are a Republic, not a democracy.   Signed - the founding fathers and the framers of the Constitution.

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 20, 2014, 07:07:47 AM

For the (self-proclaimed) smarterest people on Mother Gaia, they sure don't check pesky things like facts, do they? :???:

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: landofconfusion80 on February 20, 2014, 07:18:20 AM

Wow, that guy really needs a trim. 

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: txradioguy on February 20, 2014, 07:24:39 AM

This mindless meme will be popping up on All Politics soon.

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: Karin on February 20, 2014, 07:30:33 AM

GOOOOO CAPITALISM!!!!    :yahoo:   :cheerleader: :cheerleader2: :clap:

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: USA4ME on February 20, 2014, 08:04:23 AM

She didn't even play a convincing role as a judge in Law & Order.

However, this is classic "Blame America First" rhetoric.

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Scuba

4. Sorry Fran, but the US did not win the cold war. The Soviets just lost first.

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Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: Wineslob on February 20, 2014, 09:09:18 AM

That's probably the ugliest man I've ever seen.  :panic:

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: DefiantSix on February 20, 2014, 09:15:25 AM

Quote from: Karin on February 20, 2014, 07:30:33 AM

GOOOOO CAPITALISM!!!!    :yahoo:   :cheerleader: :cheerleader2: :clap:

Had to give you a :hi5:

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 20, 2014, 10:20:09 AM

Quote from: formerlurker on February 20, 2014, 06:09:44 AM

Dearest ashling, we are a Republic, not a democracy.   Signed - the founding fathers and the framers of the Constitution.

Oh, now, a republic, or a federal republic, is still a democratic form of government, so the usage of 'Democracy' is correct, though the thought behind the statement is quite stupid.  It's not like anyone would actually say 'Repubicity.'

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: wasp69 on February 20, 2014, 11:50:58 AM

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Scuba

4. Sorry Fran, but the US did not win the cold war. The Soviets just lost first.

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Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on February 20, 2014, 12:13:00 PM

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Scuba

4. Sorry Fran, but the US did not win the cold war. The Soviets just lost first.

:wtf2:  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :bs:

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: formerlurker on February 20, 2014, 04:36:13 PM

Quote from: DumbAss Tanker on February 20, 2014, 10:20:09 AM

Oh, now, a republic, or a federal republic, is still a democratic form of government, so the usage of 'Democracy' is correct, though the thought behind the statement is quite stupid.  It's not like anyone would actually say 'Repubicity.'

The Democracy thing is a state and local thang.   Capitalism is national.

She could have said - capitalism triumphed over the Republic.  

Title: Re: Capitalism won
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 20, 2014, 06:46:52 PM

Quote from: formerlurker on February 20, 2014, 04:36:13 PM

The Democracy thing is a state and local thang.   Capitalism is national.

She could have said - capitalism triumphed over the Republic.  

Our national government is also a representative democracy, it's not actually wrong to use the word in describing our form of government at the state or national level as a generality, unless you further qualify it by saying 'Popular democracy' or 'Athenian democracy.'   

'Capitalism' is not a form of government at all, it is an economic philosophy or system that can exist under any form of government that allows for the private ownership of the means of production and the freedom to hire employees and sell the products.  An absolute monarchy like Saudi Arabia can be Capitalist, while a democratically-elected government can be so Socialist in its economic organization that large enterprises cannot be brought into existence without state ownership coming into play (They generally aren't, because actual control of them tends to fall into the hands of oligarchies who have a vested financial interest in private ownership of property for large enterprises). 

Now this is just my personal opinion, but the endless hairsplitting and one-upmanship about the use of the word 'Democracy' to describe the US by anyone with whom we disagree does not make us look smarter or win arguments, it just makes us look like nit-picking twerps, since our stickling about it is not entirely correct either.