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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on February 19, 2014, 11:26:24 PM
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A thread starts to discuss physical requirements for being a Marine, but quickly becomes a showcase for nadin.
One of her best efforts in a while.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:32 PM
BrentWil (2,271 posts)
Marines who can't do pullups are 'broke or lazy'
Pretty interesting letter to the editor. This was written by Maj. Jess Mullen, a 37-year-old mother of four.
http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/article/20140218/NEWS/302180026/One-officer-s-opinion-Marines-who-can-t-do-pullups-broke-lazy-
"First, to female Marines: You must understand that pullups will become the single standard measure of physical fitness (Marine administrative message 035/14). The flexed-arm hang is an antiquated test that is no longer applicable. Get it out of your head that it is an acceptable measure of fitness.
United States Marines, of any MOS or gender, should be required — and able — to pull their body weight up and into a window, over a wall or into a helicopter.
If you have not reached a minimum of three pullups by June 2014, you must fall into one of two categories: broke or lazy. Those of you who are broken: get healthy. Those of you who are lazy: get up and get training."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024531286
Response to BrentWil (Original post)Wed
Feb 19, 2014, 09:45 PM
Star Member alphafemale (13,788 posts)
2. It's the Marines. Brute physical strength is important
The letter writer was crass and awful. But some things in life should not have lower physical standards.
Same as a fireman. A fireman should absolutely HAVE to be able to physically carry a 180 lb adult over their shoulders on a ladder.
If not?
People will die.
Response to BrentWil (Original post)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:46 PM
Star Member valerief (38,337 posts)
3. Marines who can't do vaginal childbirth are broke or lazy. Gotta be able to
handle pain. And make more Marines.
The crazy bald dwarf isn't much for sarcasm, or for reality:
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:59 PM
nadinbrzezinski (129,852 posts)
8. Idiotic thing to say
since those Marines about to do a vaginal birth will not be in the front lines.
I will say this, I have no issue with these standards.
And yes, at one time I used to carry my weight, and a medical bag, up a line with prusik knotts.
I also was capable of carrying somebody over my shoulder, and to carry a fire donut 100 yards running at a good clip, and a ladder and the rest of the crap that came with the job.
And because of the war on drugs, I had to be able to pull somebody out of the line of fire as well. And yes, avoid getting myself hurt or killed in the process.
I managed to do both of these a few times. Still got nightmares over it.
A few of my people were not able to pass PRT's, regardless of gender, they were given time to train up, and offered tips on such, and retest. Still unable to, well... and this is the reality that the Marines will live by.
These days I could not do that crap.
But I get why they need to. You want to be a combat marine, hooaaahhh, good for you!
Regardless of gender well, there are some things you will need to do. I admit, women will have a harder time keeping up to it, but that is life, and biology.
Maybe she got her "hooah" mixed up with her "oorah".
Nutcase nadin - a new action hero.
Her heroism is why we won the War on Drugs.
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Oh.....my.....Gawd.
I also was capable of carrying somebody over my shoulder.....
No fudging way.
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You know, there's something in particular that bothers me about the cousin's Vlada Mitty tales of being an emergency medical technician.
As far as I know, the cousin's never said where and when--Tijuana during the 1980s? San Diego during the 1990s? Mexico City during the 1970s?
My suggestion is that if the cousin wishes to give credence to all this, it'd help if she gave at least vague geographic and chronological details.
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crazy bald dwarf: Quote
I also was capable of carrying somebody over my shoulder.....
Oh.....my.....Gawd.
No fudging way.
I agree. Unless she was carrying another dwarf. A normal person would have their head and feet dragging the ground draped over her shoulder.
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Vlada Mitty is having a stroke. Nobody responded to her tales of supper-wymyn.
She doesn't realize the other commenters have her, on ignore. :lmao:
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and to carry a fire donut 100 yards running at a good clip, and a ladder and the rest of the crap that came with the job.
Nads has taken to carrying a different kind of donut around what would be her waist, if she had one.
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Nads has taken to carrying a different kind of donut around what would be her waist, if she had one.
Weebles have waists??? :???: :confused:
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I managed to do both of these a few times. Still got nightmares over it.
The Blob's got the thousand yard stare.
The horror....The horror.....
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Wait a minute - what she a medic or a fireman (paramedics are firemen in MA, but unsure if that is common)? and notice that she doesn't mention her time in the service that she claims to have had.
There is absolutely no way, even on her best day of daydreaming, did she do any of those things. The misfits must all have her on ignore, because that shouldn't go unchallenged.
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From another thread that is not worthy of its own here:
Response to pampango (Reply #14)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 03:52 PM
nadinbrzezinski (129,857 posts)
15. Ok, this is sad, I am better at reading tea leaves
in places I barely know, it was, I admit, a gut feeling based on a Russian History course taken in graduate school.
My back yard, I missed it by a mile, and I watch local politics professionally. (I should not feel so bad about it, I was the only one to say it was the guy who won to lose, but bought into the poll hype)
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10024527900#post15
She is a professional local politics watcher? I thought her "job" entailed listening to a police scanner (because the former medic has no contacts at the "local" police/fire station).
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Who the **** is this "expert"?
nadinbrzezinski (129,857 posts) Wed Feb 19, 2014, 02:28 PM
13. There we are seeing a possible split
Between the army and the police, these are echoes of both the 1905 uprising and the Russian Revolution. (Ukraine was part of the Empire and it's bread basket)
In 1905 the Navy sided with the rebels. Why the Navy was never trusted by the Soviets. In 1917 the army broke for the people while the police was still breaking skulls. Army units formed the first Soviets, (people's councils). As the civil war broke the army did as well. It was between the white forces under Alexandr Kerensky and the Red Forces.
Piece of trivia US Forces landed in Sebastopol in support of White Forces. So yes, we technically invaded mother Russia. Oh and Kerensky died penniless in NYC in the 1920
Alexander Kerensky, leader of the short-lived provisional government in Russia--the one in between the tsar and Lenin, about six months in 1917--died a very old man in New York City in 1970, reasonably affluent.
<<<didn't even have to nadin this; knew it.
Geezuz, the cousin makes me weep in her abysmal knowledge about anything.
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Nadin needs an action figure...
(http://www.retroactionfigures.com/images/CIMG0175.JPG)
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Wait a minute - what she a medic or a fireman (paramedics are firemen in MA, but unsure if that is common)? and notice that she doesn't mention her time in the service that she claims to have had.
There is absolutely no way, even on her best day of daydreaming, did she do any of those things. The misfits must all have her on ignore, because that shouldn't go unchallenged.
In the past, she has stated that she spent 10 years as an EMT with the Mexican Red Cross in the Tijuana area. She has said that she received training as a fireman while she was an EMT. She has also implied that she served with the IDF at one point, but I don't think she has given any details.
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In the past, she has stated that she spent 10 years as an EMT with the Mexican Red Cross in the Tijuana area. She has said that she received training as a fireman while she was an EMT. She has also implied that she served with the IDF at one point, but I don't think she has given any details.
She also claimed to be the company commander of a Mexican army medical company.
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gnads the incomprehensible
And yes, at one time I used to carry my weight, and a medical bag, up a line with prusik knotts.
gNads doing rope ascents... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I also was capable of carrying somebody over my shoulder,
"Somebody" = Hervé Villechaize
and to carry a fire donut 100 yards running at a good clip,
More like a jelly donut.
and a ladder and the rest of the crap that came with the job.
So now she has a 100' coil of line (for rope ascents) and a ladder on one shoulder, and a midget and a medic bag on the other, with a Bowie knife and a packet of MRE peanut butter in her boot.
What a picture.
A few of my people were not able to pass PRT's, regardless of gender, they were given time to train up, and offered tips on such, and retest.
I had no idea the Tijuana Donkey Ambulance Brigade had such stringent physical fitness standards.
I also had no idea the Tijuana Donkey Ambulance Brigade called their PT test "PRT's." Can someone who speaks Spanish tell me what PRT stands for?
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Oh.....my.....Gawd.
No fudging way.
If the 'person' was the size of a ****ing Barbie doll, perhaps.
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In the past, she has stated that she spent 10 years as an EMT with the Mexican Red Cross in the Tijuana area. She has said that she received training as a fireman while she was an EMT. She has also implied that she served with the IDF at one point, but I don't think she has given any details.
Could be, could be she is short but so is DR .Ruth at 4' 11" and she served in the Israeli Army.
In her book she tells of at 12-13 being taught to while blindfolded to take apart and put back together a machinegun of some kind. Those people do not fool around.
When Mother came home from a tour of Israel 8 or so years ago she told me of seeing children smaller then herself on the streets fully armed. Mother is 5' tall and weighed 90 pounds at the time.
From what I gather everyone is drafted for defense and unless in a coma the Government will find a job for you to do.
So Nad's may have when she was younger and thinner and stronger may have volunteered for some jobs that did not require her to do the job of a man or woman twice her size.
Much like her "JOB" today she may have thought of volunteering as a JOB and may indeed seen some action as she did clean up work on something or other.--+
I am trying to understand Nad's and it is no easier then she trying to understand me.
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gNads doing rope ascents... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
"Somebody" = Hervé Villechaize
More like a jelly donut.
So now she has a 100' coil of line (for rope ascents) and a ladder on one shoulder, and a midget and a medic bag on the other, with a Bowie knife and a packet of MRE peanut butter in her boot.
What a picture.
I had no idea the Tijuana Donkey Ambulance Brigade had such stringent physical fitness standards.
I also had no idea the Tijuana Donkey Ambulance Brigade called their PT test "PRT's." Can someone who speaks Spanish tell me what PRT stands for?
In the Navy it is the physical readiness test. IE twice a year you have to run, do push ups and sit ups.
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In the Navy it is the physical readiness test. IE twice a year you have to run, do push ups and sit ups.
Same in the Army, I'm sure they have entirely different ways of grading it, but that's to be expected. The Marines have always been in love with pull-ups, it's just a Marine thing. I personally can't say there was ever anything I ran into in 37 years of Army service where being able to do a pull-up would have made a difference, but they kept talking about putting it in the PT test for most of that time anyway. Service is what it is, you don't go into it expecting them to change the standards or culture to suit you, but to change yourself to conform to them...well, maybe Millennials do it the other way...
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Oh.....my.....Gawd.
No fudging way.
To perform a fireman's carry, one must, in fact, have shoulders in the first place.
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gNads doing rope ascents... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
So now she has a 100' coil of line (for rope ascents) and a ladder on one shoulder, and a midget and a medic bag on the other, with a Bowie knife and a packet of MRE peanut butter in her boot.
What a picture.
:lol:
Oh, and all while wearing her Nomex jumpsuit :rofl:
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Nomex
:racista:
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I'll be damned. She cut her bangs.
(http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/gobucksnumbers/newnadin_zps2acefee5.jpg)
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:lol:
Oh, and all while wearing her gNomex jumpsuit :rofl:
Fixed.
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Good God look at the distortion in those glasses, you could start a fire by moonlight.
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I'll be damned. She cut her bangs.
(http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/gobucksnumbers/newnadin_zps2acefee5.jpg)
I see what you did there. :rotf:
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Good God look at the distortion in those glasses, you could start a fire by moonlight.
It's like looking through the wrong end of a telescope.
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Same in the Army, I'm sure they have entirely different ways of grading it, but that's to be expected. The Marines have always been in love with pull-ups, it's just a Marine thing. I personally can't say there was ever anything I ran into in 37 years of Army service where being able to do a pull-up would have made a difference, but they kept talking about putting it in the PT test for most of that time anyway. Service is what it is, you don't go into it expecting them to change the standards or culture to suit you, but to change yourself to conform to them...well, maybe Millennials do it the other way...
Did they ever get around to changing the PT test, DAT? I ended up taking one two months before I retired. Same one I had taken for 28 years. The Army has always talked about changing it, ever since I was a brand new Private in basic training. I thought the new one they were discussing had some merit- more based on combat requirements and not so much on lean sprinters with a bit of upper body strength.
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Dutch, they were still talking about that when I checked out in 2012, but it hadn't happened yet. They went through the exact same drill in the early 80s, including the addition of pull-ups, but it never actually came to pass. I don't know if it's still the same now or not.
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In the Navy it is the physical readiness test. IE twice a year you have to run, do push ups and sit ups.
I figured it was Physical Readiness Test - in English.
But gNads was the commander of the Tijuana Donkey Ambulance Brigade, and their SF-tough physical readiness test would have a Spanish name - and a Spanish acronym. Real-life donkey riding Mexican EMTs wouldn't use a "foreign" acronym.
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I figured it was Physical Readiness Test - in English.
But gNads was the commander of the Tijuana Donkey Ambulance Brigade, and their SF-tough physical readiness test would have a Spanish name - and a Spanish acronym. Real-life donkey riding Mexican EMTs wouldn't use a "foreign" acronym.
Google sent her to a Wikipedia entry that was in English.
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I also was capable of carrying somebody over my shoulder,
"Somebody" = Hervé Villechaize
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
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I'll be damned. She cut her bangs.
(http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac32/gobucksnumbers/newnadin_zps2acefee5.jpg)
On the other thread, Frank posted she looked like Ben Franklin...
The resemblance is uncanny.
Also the only donuts she ever carried were from Dunkin'.