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Title: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: dane on February 17, 2014, 11:02:00 AM
DUmmies DO like their sensationalism.  The DUmmy's OP does not mention that the both the shooter and the victim (who was vandalizing his car, for the second time) are black.

The linked article shows a picture of both, but the DUmmy included ONLY the teenager's photo in the OP.  This set off a firestorm of outrage as to why white people are killing so many black teenagers, and they reference the Dunn and Zimmerman Florida trials.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4513293

A mischievous prank turned deadly on Saturday after a 15-year-old girl was shot dead by an irate Arkansas homeowner who is now facing first-degree murder charges.
 
Adrian Broadway was allegedly hit in the head by Willie Noble, 48, after the teenage girl and five other friends covered Noble's car with leaves, eggs and mayonnaise just before 1am on Saturday morning.
 
It was the second prank Broadway and her friends had played on Noble that evening - causing him to burst out of his home in Little Rock firing his gun at the car containing the teen and her friends.
 
Noble was arrested by police and charged with one count of first degree murder, one count of a terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault - for firing on the other passengers of the white Hyundai Sonata.
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dixiegrrrrl (34,883 posts)
1. and the pattern begins...

I was hoping that the Dunn conviction would give peole a reason to THINK.
gues not.

This is going to be an interesting case, given that there is no racial bias element ( I assume)
:juggs: manages to get racism AND guns in her response
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BainsBane (23,145 posts)

27. Two Florida juiries have shown someone can kill African Americans and get away with it

So naturally more are going to be doing it. while the gun nuts will continue to defend them and minimize the significance of these deaths.
This DUmmy relied on the OP, and didn't go to the link cited, where he would have seen a photo of the shooter
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Kablooie (9,856 posts)

40. Why is shooting kids suddenly the preferred method of dealing with annoyances?

And always white guys shooting black kids.

This country seriously needs some kind of reboot.
The wheels are coming off.
A couple of DUmmies actually read the article and corrected KaDUie, but just as gNads would do, has left his error
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SamKnause (1,686 posts)

44. The shooter was black.
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Lizzie Poppet (3,579 posts)

76. "And always white guys shooting black kids."

Didn't read the article, did you?

I can't disagree about the needed reboot, though...
They rarely do Lizzie, they rarely do.
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: Carl on February 17, 2014, 11:06:48 AM
Love how vandalism is now considered a "mischievous prank". :banghead:
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: jukin on February 17, 2014, 11:29:42 AM
Egging of cars goes to zero in Arkansas.

Black man shooter, MSM will spike this story. This will be the one day that coverage of this story happens.
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 17, 2014, 01:54:47 PM
$50 fine for not killing them all....suits me.   
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: Ptarmigan on February 17, 2014, 04:12:32 PM
How is this first degree murder?  :???: :bs: I thought it was murder with malice in mind. No?

The left cannot use the race card as Willie Noble is Black. There is also Roderick Scott in New York, who shot and killed Christopher Cervini, who was White.
Title: Re: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: Jmartin on February 17, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
Had to go get his gun. Makes it premeditated. Automatic first degree murder.
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 17, 2014, 05:17:09 PM
How is this first degree murder?  :???: :bs: I thought it was murder with malice in mind. No?

The left cannot use the race card as Willie Noble is Black. There is also Roderick Scott in New York, who shot and killed Christopher Cervini, who was White.

Not only that, but there's no 'stand your ground' law in NYS.  The incident in question happened in a suburb of Rochester (all of the following is my best recollection of the facts).  The 'youth' charged Mr. Scott when Mr. Scott investigated a sound of breaking car glass next door to his home (the neighborhood had been suffering break-ins of cars in driveways).  Mr. Scott fired one shot from his .40 S&W handgun, killing the perp.  Mr. Scott was charged under NYS' laws, which require someone being attacked to 'retire' (leave) if at all possible, unless it becomes a self-defense situation.  Mr. Scott's defense was that it indeed was a self-defense situation; the jury saw it that way and (I don't remember which) either acquitted him, or returned a 'not guilty' verdict (same result, actually).

Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: FlaGator on February 17, 2014, 05:17:56 PM
I live in Jacksonville and rarely a day goes by without some black person shooting another black person. I'm not kidding, it's like every other day a best. Saturday night some black person opened fire in a club and killed one and wounded 5. We have one white guy, Dunn, shooting a black kid, Jordan, and if you listen to the New Black Panthers its an epidemic that must be dealt with. Apparently blacks can kill each other in mass with little to no repercussions but if it's a white guy pulling the trigger then the conclusion that is jumped to is that it's open season on black people.

Perhaps many in the black community are just trying to mask the shame of being so disconnected from the black on black murders that they are trying to hide that fact by pointing to the seemingly rare white on black killings.

I have nice Biblical suggestion for the New Black Panthers and other race baiters

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Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?
You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on February 17, 2014, 05:36:24 PM
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This is going to be an interesting case, given that there is no racial bias element ( I assume)

o.O

Because it's completely unpossible for a black to be racist.

Geeezus..... :hammer:
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: HeavyMetal on February 17, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
I can't see myself shooting at teenagers for egging my car.  Paintball or pellet gun maybe, but not shoot to kill.. That's messed up..
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: Gina on February 17, 2014, 07:39:00 PM
This is a sad story but kids are out of control these days. I have no idea what to do but maybe some of them might start thinking "what if???"
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: RayRaytheSBS on February 17, 2014, 07:50:17 PM
What? It's not a white man oppressing and killing innocent black children? Call off Jesse and Al. Nothing to see here, Move along... /DUmode off
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: HeavyMetal on February 17, 2014, 07:51:22 PM
Still, shooting at them isn't the way to handle it.  Kids are kids.. I did some shoot-worthy stuff in my early years I guess.  I never stole anything from anyone, but I pissed some people off.. hehehh
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: FlaGator on February 17, 2014, 08:25:19 PM
Still, shooting at them isn't the way to handle it.  Kids are kids.. I did some shoot-worthy stuff in my early years I guess.  I never stole anything from anyone, but I pissed some people off.. hehehh

I think we agree with you. Jordan Davis did not deserve to be shot, in my opinion. He did escalate the situation by turning the music back up but I don't think that justified putting 3 bullets in him. I don't know the details of the 15 year old girl being shot but on the surface that seems like the response was greater that the cause required. This is a two way street. Those holding the gun need to be more controlled before they use it but the young people need to show a little more respect to those around them.
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: vesta111 on February 18, 2014, 06:26:55 AM
It was not told at what time the first vandalism took place, was it after sundown ?

We know the second took place at about 1AM.     So when a home and property are under attack  after dark how does the victim know the ages of the attackers ? 

911 --what is your problem.

Caller--- There are at least 5 people in a car that for the second time this night have vandalised my property.  I yelled at them the first time and scared them off but they are back again and doing more damage.  They must be drunk or on drugs.

911--- I suggest you leave your home and ask for their ID's to insure they are all over the age of 18.

Caller--- but there are 5 of them and they look about my size, I cannot go out there and confront 5 people alone.

911--we will have a patrol car there in about an hour. Go to a safe room in your home and wait for us to get to you. 

So is this what it will come to in the future ?

When mugged on the street do we the victim have to request the ID of the attacker to know if they are just big kids or adults.

Balderdash this was not a gang of midgets hopped up on drugs.   



Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 18, 2014, 09:22:07 AM
It's a really bad idea to **** with people for no reason.
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: thundley4 on February 18, 2014, 12:02:40 PM
Both were black but was one darker than the other?  That type of racism exists within the black community.
Title: Re: Arkansas homeowner shoots at teens egging his car, killing 15 year old girl....
Post by: landofconfusion80 on February 18, 2014, 12:09:30 PM
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