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Title: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: Carl on February 17, 2014, 09:50:17 AM
From the disability group. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1141384

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Sat Feb 8, 2014, 04:59 PM

Star Member Lil Missy (14,199 posts)

Income limits for SSDI
I recently researched the income limits for a person getting SSDI. I found that any month of income over $770 for SSDI is considered a "trial month". Then monthly income over $1070 is considered "Substantial Gainful Activity" (SGA)

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/page1-5.html

I noticed on another thread that SSDI isn't affected unless making over $1000 a month:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/114127#post1

"Work is only an issue if you are working more then 30 hours a week or making more then $1000 a month."

Last year I initiated part-time employment and until this month I made under $770 a month. Until this month - I made closer to $900 - well over the $770 threshold but under the $1070 limit considered SGA. So my question is - have I triggered a trial work period by going over $770 this month?

Piece of shit mooch

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Response to Lil Missy (Original post)

Sat Feb 8, 2014, 05:24 PM

Star Member WhiteTara (12,410 posts)
4. Are you working several months in a row?

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 8, 2014, 05:29 PM

Star Member Lil Missy (14,199 posts)
5. Yes, 6 or 7 months in a row now.

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Response to happyslug (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:25 PM

Star Member Lil Missy (14,199 posts)
8. Thank you for that very thorough response.

Last edited Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)
By SSDI I am Social Security Disability Income, or what you call RSDI.

You have clarified the point I'm looking for. Basically, I want to avoid the 9 months of the trial period because I don't want to reach that 36 month "Extended Period of Eligibility". If I understand correctly, that means my RSDI would end after the 36 month period, regardless of whether I get Benefits some months and not others due to going over the $1070 threshold. I don't want that to happen.

Although, you do mention there is a 5 step process and that there are other tests after the trial period and SGA. Perhaps I wouldn't be automatically dropped after 36 months, assuming I don't make over the $1070 limit for 2014.

Some specifics in my case - I've worked part time for about 8 months now and February will be the first month I'll go over the $770 limit. It will still be under $1000 though. I've talked to my employer about not giving me so many hours but with my regular schedule now (which is fluid and can change quickly), I'll average around $900 a month gross.

I'll be 58 next month if that's of any use. It also occurs to me that it would likely take 4 years or more to move through 8 more months considered part of the "trial period" and then another 36 months after that. I'll be 62 then - close to getting SS Retirement. So I could be all concerned for nothing.

Thanks again for your very thorough response.

On Edit - I think I found the answer in an SSA link

http://www.ssa.gov/redbook/eng/ssdi-only-employment-supports.htm#a0=1

It says:

"If you are not working above SGA and are eligible for a benefit payment for the 37th month of the EPE, you will continue to receive benefits until you:

•Work a month at the SGA level, or
•Medically recover."

So as you explained, I wouldn't have to worry about what happens after the 36 month Extended Period of Eligibility assuming I still stay under the SGA limit ($1070 for 2014). in other words, I won't automatically get dropped at month 37.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

In other words there is not a damn thing really wrong with you outside being a useless leech.  :bird:
Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: Gina on February 17, 2014, 09:59:45 AM
Geez, if she put that much effort into actually working .....  :banghead:
Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: landofconfusion80 on February 17, 2014, 10:00:18 AM
Oh no! a step away from that precious "safety net!"  WE CAN'T HAVE THAT!!! SAND BAG! SAND BAG!!!

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Title: Re:
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on February 17, 2014, 10:43:30 AM
Translation: How little can I work just so I get more free shit?
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Post by: Carl on February 17, 2014, 10:46:35 AM
Translation: How little can I work just so I get more free shit?

According to dems that is now the new American Dream!
Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: jukin on February 17, 2014, 10:55:20 AM
Scamming SSDI is one of very few topics that the DUchebags are quite knowledgeable on.
Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on February 17, 2014, 10:57:41 AM
Scamming SSDI is one of very few topics that the DUchebags are quite knowledgeable on.

Along with beating a drug test.  Or at least trying to.
Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: Karin on February 17, 2014, 10:59:07 AM
Geez, if she put that much effort into actually working .....  :banghead:

I know!  She's doing analysis that's making my eyes glaze over!  This is a major research project.  ****ing parasites.  Also thieves, for stealing money from people who really need it. 
Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: I_B_Perky on February 17, 2014, 07:24:06 PM
Scamming SSDI is one of very few topics that the DUchebags are quite knowledgeable on.

And welfare and medicaid and.... well lots of other shit Jukin. If they would spend half their time trying to get a skill and working they would not have to depend on the government.
Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: obumazombie on February 17, 2014, 09:45:18 PM
I don't like payroll deductions that are ostensibly for future use of the individual that are de facto transfer payments.
Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: RobJohnson on February 18, 2014, 04:28:24 AM
Geez, if she put that much effort into actually working .....  :banghead:

Exactly.

This passes me off:
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I've talked to my employer about not giving me so many hours

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Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: Splashdown on February 18, 2014, 05:13:18 AM
Wouldn't it be great if the goal was self-sufficiency?
Title: Re: Parasite worried they may fall off the disability gravy train.
Post by: FlippyDoo on February 18, 2014, 05:14:01 AM
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Response to happyslug (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:25 PM

Star Member Lil Missy (14,199 posts)
8. Thank you for that very thorough response.

Last edited Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)
By SSDI I am Social Security Disability Income, or what you call RSDI.

You have clarified the point I'm looking for. Basically, I want to avoid the 9 months of the trial period because I don't want to reach that 36 month "Extended Period of Eligibility". If I understand correctly, that means my RSDI would end after the 36 month period, regardless of whether I get Benefits some months and not others due to going over the $1070 threshold. I don't want that to happen.

Although, you do mention there is a 5 step process and that there are other tests after the trial period and SGA. Perhaps I wouldn't be automatically dropped after 36 months, assuming I don't make over the $1070 limit for 2014.

Some specifics in my case - I've worked part time for about 8 months now and February will be the first month I'll go over the $770 limit. It will still be under $1000 though. I've talked to my employer about not giving me so many hours but with my regular schedule now (which is fluid and can change quickly), I'll average around $900 a month gross.


I seem to remember the DUmmies saying that everyone who made more than a million (or some such amount) dollars per year should be taxed at 90% for any thing that they make over a million (or whatever amount).

The DUmmie Lil Missy just gave evidence of why the DUmmie tax idea would never work.

Lil Missy doesn’t want to work too much or her free shit will be affected. She has even went so far as to tell her employer to cut her working hours so her free shit will not be cut.

Under the DUmmie 90% tax plan, Mr. Millionaire would be in a similar, though somewhat inverse, situation as Lil Missy. If he worked too much (i.e. made over a million) 90% of his income would be cut to give to Lil Missy so she can sit on her ass. Mr. Millionaire wouldn’t want his income cut any more than Lil Missy wants her free shit cut so when he reached the cutoff point he would be prone to do just as Lil Missy is doing: stop making money once he’s reached the limit. The problem is that when Mr. Millionaire decides to stop making money it will put all of his employees out of work which would create more Lil Missys.

More Lil Missys drawing from the government free shit pot will reduce the portions of free shit that each Lil Missy can get from the pot.

Of course, I'm just a fictional spirit guide so what do I know?
Title: Re:
Post by: dane on February 18, 2014, 05:55:18 AM
According to dems that is now the new American Dream!

Amber, in one of her posts on the runup to getting her new free apartment, free furniture, free food, subsidized job, free mental health counseling used almost the very same words - she said she was living the American Dream.

It is very easy to dislike DUmmies.
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Post by: Carl on February 18, 2014, 07:25:42 AM
Amber, in one of her posts on the runup to getting her new free apartment, free furniture, free food, subsidized job, free mental health counseling used almost the very same words - she said she was living the American Dream.

It is very easy to dislike DUmmies.

Listen to how they heralded the CBO report that said the exact same thing...people would choose to work less and make less so as not to lose their welfare subsidies.
We are doomed to a collapse.