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Title: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: franksolich on February 16, 2014, 05:41:39 AM
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Incitatus (5,246 posts)    Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:34 PM

How long and how should oil be stored?

I used some peanut oil to deep fry some meatballs. Should I filter it and store it in the fridge or maybe freezer to use again later and for how long?

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        (57,556 posts)    Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:53 PM

1. I don't think you want to freeze it.

Different oils (canola, peanut, safflower) have different shelf lives but all will go rancid within a year.
 
Keep in a cool and dark place, but it doesn't need to be refrigerated (though that's ok).
 
Strain it through some cheesecloth if it's got particles.

If overheated, where it's changed color or started to smoke, toss it.

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Warpy (74,313 posts)    Fri Dec 13, 2013, 01:06 AM

3. In summer here in the desert, everything but olive oil seems to go rancid in a week

if I have it opened and leave it out at room temperature. Sealed, it doesn't make a difference. I've learned to keep my safflower or peanut oil in the fridge in summer.
 
In winter, my kitchen stays under 60, so I can leave the bottle of oil out for a while.
 
The freezer won't do much more than the fridge as far as keeping it goes. It will make it solidify nicely, though.

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Major Nikon (13,449 posts)    Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:03 AM

4. Once cooking oil has been used, it is much more susceptable to rancidity

You should be filtering it and reusing it over a short period of time.

Susceptibility to rancidity is directly proportional to exposure to air, light, temperature, and time. Less of each protects against rancidity.

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sinkingfeeling (29,334 posts)    Fri Dec 13, 2013, 09:17 AM

5. I put all opened oils in my fridge.

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Major Nikon (13,449 posts)    Fri Dec 13, 2013, 11:53 AM

7. Some are much more susceptible to rancidity than others

I don't keep any oils in my refrigerator except for those I pay a lot of money for and want to keep over long periods. For everything else I buy in smaller quantities that I intend on using over a relatively short period.
 
Most of what I use is olive oil, both EVOO and light. Olive oil stores quite well at room temperature because it has a high monounsaturated fat content. This is also true of Canola oil to a lesser extend due to a lower monounsaturated content (although still quite high relative to most other vegetable oils). Walnut, grapeseed, safflower, coconut, and cottonseed oil all have low monounsaturated levels and do not store well. Omega 3 & 6 oils are some of the most volatile.
 
If you want to store any oil, it's best to do so out of the light and in a cool environment (refrigerator is not a bad idea). Some oils actually fare worse in the refrigerator, but not many. EVOO is one example.
 
You also want to be careful about aerating the oil as little as possible and store in containers that are as full as possible and sealed.

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demigoddess (2,541 posts)    Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:30 PM

8. oils in the bottle also react to light,

so I always keep mine in the dark pantry or cupboard. No problem with heat here.
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: I_B_Perky on February 16, 2014, 08:17:30 PM
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Incitatus (5,246 posts)    Thu Dec 12, 2013, 11:34 PM

How long and how should oil be stored?

I used some peanut oil to deep fry some meatballs. Should I filter it and store it in the fridge or maybe freezer to use again later and for how long?

Pour it over your head, dummie. Preferably while the oil is is still hot.  You are too stupid to google it and you dumbasses wanna tell me I don't know what is in my best interests?  I'd call you a moron but that would be an insult to morons everywhere.
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: franksolich on February 16, 2014, 08:19:19 PM
Pour it over your head, dummie. Preferably while the oil is is still hot.  You are too stupid to google it and you dumbasses wanna tell me I don't know what is in my best interests?  I'd call you a moron but that would be an insult to morons everywhere.

I'm curious.

Why would someone want to deep-fry meatballs?

Aren't they usually already cooked, meatballs, and wouldn't deep-frying them add to the calories and grease content of them?
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: Big Dog on February 16, 2014, 08:41:34 PM
I'm curious.

Why would someone want to deep-fry meatballs?

Aren't they usually already cooked, meatballs, and wouldn't deep-frying them add to the calories and grease content of them?

Yes, deep-frying would add grease (and calories).

I make meatballs from scratch. I don't deep-fry them.
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Post by: thundley4 on February 16, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
Yes, deep-frying would add grease (and calories).

I make meatballs from scratch. I don't deep-fry them.

My wife just browns them in a skillet. 

If cooking oil smells funny or is cloudy, it is time to pitch it.
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: I_B_Perky on February 16, 2014, 09:05:25 PM
I'm curious.

Why would someone want to deep-fry meatballs?

Aren't they usually already cooked, meatballs, and wouldn't deep-frying them add to the calories and grease content of them?

Why indeed. Depends on whether they are bought at the store or homemade, Frank. I could maybe see deep frying them if they were homemade. The beef grease is gonna screw up the peanut oil though and that is expensive. I usually just fry them up in the cast iron skillet if I am making homemade. I'm not sure about adding calories and fat though. Beef is pretty fatty to start with. Assuming it isn't ground steak or ground round.

They are dummies frank. Who knows what goes thru their little minds?
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: franksolich on February 16, 2014, 09:08:17 PM
Why indeed. Depends on whether they are bought at the store or homemade, Frank. I could maybe see deep frying them if they were homemade. The beef grease is gonna screw up the peanut oil though and that is expensive. I usually just fry them up in the cast iron skillet if I am making homemade. I'm not sure about adding calories and fat though. Beef is pretty fatty to start with. Assuming it isn't ground steak or ground round.

They are dummies frank. Who knows what goes thru their little minds?

Oh.

So meatballs are deep-fried before they're even cooked?

<<<never paid attention to fatty foods, so really don't know.

What's the point of it?  Why not just cook them on the skillet?
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: I_B_Perky on February 16, 2014, 09:47:28 PM
Oh.

So meatballs are deep-fried before they're even cooked?

<<<never paid attention to fatty foods, so really don't know.

What's the point of it?  Why not just cook them on the skillet?

No to your first question Frank. You can deep fry uncooked meatballs... pretty much the same as cooking them in a skillet. You can deep fry a raw hamburger for that matter. The only real difference is the meat is surrounded by the oil as opposed to just one side in a skillet. So I could see that.

Now would I do it? Nope. Ruins the shortening. Could you deep fry cooked frozen meatballs? Yes... but what's the point? They are already cooked.

You can pretty much deep fry anything you fry on a skillet,Frank. For that matter you can pretty much deep fry just about anything that will hold it's form. A restaurant around here years ago, seems to me like it was Chi's Chi's, deep fried ice cream.

Having said all that... maybe the meatball processors do it. It would be easier from a production standpoint.

Then I got curious and googled it. Seems it is quite common.

Fried meatballs (https://www.google.com/#q=deep+fried+meatballs)

Sometimes I think what the hell do I know anymore? I would have never dreamed of deep frying a turkey.  What's next? Deep fried meatloaf? Well apparently yes! Deep fried meatloaf (https://www.google.com/#q=deep+fried+meatloaf)

I'm afraid to look up anything else!!!!
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: Splashdown on February 17, 2014, 06:03:51 AM
I brown my homemade meatballs in the oven.
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: hillneck on February 17, 2014, 07:29:18 AM
Have you ever noticed that the DUmmies make everything so difficult.  It's a wonder how they stumble through life sometimes. 
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: diesel driver on February 17, 2014, 08:50:54 AM
The only grease I store comes in 14oz tubes, 10 to a box, and says "Unocal Red-Tac #2" on the box.
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on February 17, 2014, 08:55:51 AM
Have you ever noticed that the DUmmies make everything so difficult.  It's a wonder how they stumble through life sometimes. 

I'm amazed they can walk and breathe without consulting other DUmmies first.
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: Dori on February 17, 2014, 09:46:16 AM
I'm amazed they can walk and breathe without consulting other DUmmies first.

I actually saw a thread the other day that was titled "How do you boil water for coffee or tea"? 

 :rofl:
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: jukin on February 17, 2014, 09:53:26 AM
I actually saw a thread the other day that was titled "How do you boil water for coffee or tea"? 

 :rofl:

Or make a grilled cheese sandwich.
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 17, 2014, 09:57:19 AM
NJCher deep fries soup.
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: vesta111 on February 17, 2014, 10:11:24 AM
I actually saw a thread the other day that was titled "How do you boil water for coffee or tea"? 

 :rofl:

I can see campers and survivalists keeping old oil from cooking.    

This oil is a great starter for camping fires, even if the wood is wet, the oil brings on a great fire.  Many uses for cooking oil,  Southerners keep a jar of bacon grease for cooking, and so do most Yankees.  

Some fishing camps up north have a quart or two of bacon grease in the cuboid to start up a fire for the hunters that come in cold and wet.

A good use for the grease that we modern people throw away.-- a use for everything , we just have to find it.
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: delilahmused on February 17, 2014, 01:15:34 PM
My Nana has a jar of bacon grease she uses for cooking. She's had a jar as long as I can remember. Never gets rancid. Her mom cooked with it daily. She just left the jar sitting out. No refrigeration on the farm back then. I have my own jar now.

Cindie
Title: Re: primitives discuss storing grease
Post by: Big Dog on February 17, 2014, 06:53:08 PM
My Nana has a jar of bacon grease she uses for cooking. She's had a jar as long as I can remember. Never gets rancid. Her mom cooked with it daily. She just left the jar sitting out. No refrigeration on the farm back then. I have my own jar now.

Cindie

Bacon- it truly is the Miracle Food!

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