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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: djones520 on June 29, 2008, 07:02:43 PM
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I'm not talking about leaving the country. But has anyone been making any monetary plans? Putting money away and such. We all know that taxes are going to sky rocket to pay for this national health care, and all of his other socialist policies.
So has anyone been making plans on how to get by in the event of his take over?
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I'm going to keep doing the same things I have always done, and continue with the plans I have already made. Obama will be a disaster if he makes it to the White House, but I refuse to let his sorry ass dictate how I will and will not live. I seriously doubt you will see the same ridiculously hysterical pronouncements from conservatives that has been the hallmark of the Democratic Party since January 2001.
Aside from that, guns and ammo.
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we have been buying a lot of ammo. Obama wanted to tax each bullet. I should have enough to last a lifetime (knock on wood).
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we have been buying a lot of ammo. Obama wanted to tax each bullet. I should have enough to last a lifetime (knock on wood).
I found a company in the Cheaper Than Dirt print catalog that sells reloaded .223 for $400 per 1000, but my catalog is from September last year.
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No change in plans. I'm not a hysterical primitive after all. I'm capable of living with a Democrat in the office.
I survived eight years of Clinton. I will survive four years of Obama.
If he is elected and he does somehow manage to implement some of his socialist ideas, I hope people will wake up and make a second term for Obama a fairy tale.
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I plan to continue life as I always have, laid-back, mellow, and relaxed.
But of course, remember my election prediction; Barry "Goldwater" Obama's not going to be elected anyway.
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Same here,I am getting on with my life finally regardless of who is President.
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Same here,I am getting on with my life finally regardless of who is President.
Here's what gets me about the Obamaite primitives.
Suppose the very worst were to happen.
Suppose (a) Barry "Goldwater" Obama in fact gets elected, (b) the Democrats capture all seats for the U.S. Senate, leaving circa 25-30 Republicans there (who weren't up for re-election), and (c) the Democrats capture all 435 seats in the House of Representatives.
Just suppose.
For some odd reason, the Obamaite primitives think that decent and civilized people will be extinguished.
I got news for the Obamaite primitives.
We've always been around, we'll still be around, and so the Obamaite primitives can shove that up their asses and smoke it.
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Same here,I am getting on with my life finally regardless of who is President.
Here's what gets me about the Obamaite primitives.
Suppose the very worst were to happen.
Suppose (a) Barry "Goldwater" Obama in fact gets elected, (b) the Democrats capture all seats for the U.S. Senate, leaving circa 25-30 Republicans there (who weren't up for re-election), and (c) the Democrats capture all 435 seats in the House of Representatives.
Just suppose.
For some odd reason, the Obamaite primitives think that decent and civilized people will be extinguished.
I got news for the Obamaite primitives.
We've always been around, we'll still be around, and so the Obamaite primitives can shove that up their asses and smoke it.
Hizzah! Hi5!
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Well, since we're also faced with a Missouri court ordering up to half of Mr Smith's take home pay be used to pay college bills for his adult daughter, I've thought seriously about finding a cheap little camper trailer to park either in the town where Mr Smith works, or the town where I work. That way, we'd cut our gas expenses in half, and save money on maintenance and what-not. We'd also have a place to live if we just can't make it for 6 more years on what's left of our income after Missouri and Obama decimate it, and we end up renting out our house to keep the payments made.
Seriously, I'm unhappy about the possiblity...but not in a panic. We've lived dirt poor before, we can manage it for a few years again. :thumbs:
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I'll keep doing what I'm doing and actively work to keep the libtards out of local and state offices. I lived through Clinton and can remember living through the Carter years as a kid. We'll be fine. And frank's right. Ooobama won't win.
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life goes on.
in two years the Congress will turn right making it hard for him to pass anything.
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I don't anticipate making any majoir changes in my current way of doing things.
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Retire.
Stock up on ammo.
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Well, since we're also faced with a Missouri court ordering up to half of Mr Smith's take home pay be used to pay college bills for his adult daughter, I've thought seriously about finding a cheap little camper trailer to park either in the town where Mr Smith works, or the town where I work. That way, we'd cut our gas expenses in half, and save money on maintenance and what-not. We'd also have a place to live if we just can't make it for 6 more years on what's left of our income after Missouri and Obama decimate it, and we end up renting out our house to keep the payments made.
Seriously, I'm unhappy about the possiblity...but not in a panic. We've lived dirt poor before, we can manage it for a few years again. :thumbs:
You can move to Iowa, its cheaper in some ways.
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Kennedy, Johnson, Carter and Clinton, I lived thru them all. I'm a pro at, "doing what a man's gotta do".
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There is no way in hell that Obama is going to win.
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IF Obama wins, let's see... I can look forward to paying a hell of a lot more in taxes, so I may have to get a second job. I can look forward to my kid's health care being run by the state... oh boy. What else? Oh, well, we might have to get one of those tandem bikes with a little basket on wheels at the end so we can drop the kid off at day care before we both head to work as gas will make Europeeon prices look tame, and there's the possibility that there will be more terrorists attacks on the news so we got that to look forward to.
Oh yeah, we'll cope. :whatever:
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What are your plans if Obama gets elected?
Get up and go to PT formation just like always.
I know that sounds trite...but unlike the DUmmies I don't believe the world will end if "my guy" doesn't get elected.
Though with a President that subscribes to the McGovern/Carter foreign policy beliefs the way Barakstar! does...it will mean I'll stay a lot busier at work than if a Republican gets elected.
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There is no way in hell that Obama is going to win.
I wouldn't say there's no way in Hell, but it seems to me Barry "Goldwater" Obama's chances of winning the election are as close to "nil" as one can get, without getting to "nil."
I suspect I have better odds of winning the Powerball.
Of course, many here seem to disagree with me, and I think I know what the problem is.
Hearing people tend to spend far too much time paying attention to what others are saying.
Despite the healthy skepticism displayed for the mainstream media, for example, hearing people are affected by it. And if the mainstream media, as usual, canonizes the Democrats, liberals, and primitives and denigrates the Republicans and conservatives, some of that DOES rub off, get absorbed by, hearing people.
We all know from listening to college football commentators on television that they don't know excresence about college football, and most of us tend to dismiss those chattering heads.
One has to do the same thing with news reporters and political news reporters, and instead contemplate the history and sociology of the United States, and using our unpharmaceuticalled brains and sensitive guts, try to get a feel, or a sense, of what's most likely to happen.
None of us are God, but God did give us some skills to, roughly, figure out what's going to happen.
It's not likely Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to be the first "black" president.
It's probably more likely franksolich is going to win the Powerball lottery.
So my suggestion to the pessimists and skeptics here is, "stop listening to what other people say."
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There is no way in hell that Obama is going to win.
I wouldn't say there's no way in Hell, but it seems to me Barry "Goldwater" Obama's chances of winning the election are as close to "nil" as one can get, without getting to "nil."
I suspect I have better odds of winning the Powerball.
Of course, many here seem to disagree with me, and I think I know what the problem is.
Hearing people tend to spend far too much time paying attention to what others are saying.
Despite the healthy skepticism displayed for the mainstream media, for example, hearing people are affected by it. And if the mainstream media, as usual, canonizes the Democrats, liberals, and primitives and denigrates the Republicans and conservatives, some of that DOES rub off, get absorbed by, hearing people.
We all know from listening to college football commentators on television that they don't know excresence about college football, and most of us tend to dismiss those chattering heads.
One has to do the same thing with news reporters and political news reporters, and instead contemplate the history and sociology of the United States, and using our unpharmaceuticalled brains and sensitive guts, try to get a feel, or a sense, of what's most likely to happen.
None of us are God, but God did give us some skills to, roughly, figure out what's going to happen.
It's not likely Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to be the first "black" president.
It's probably more likely franksolich is going to win the Powerball lottery.
So my suggestion to the pessimists and skeptics here is, "stop listening to what other people say."
Frank, I have great respect for your opinions in this area, and can, to a degree, understand that as a non-hearing person, you rely on other sources to formulate those opinions. That said, the great unwashed out there does not resort to that sort of introspective consideration of the issues. The media has a large influence on the attitudes of the electorate, and the same mentality that makes "reality television" so popular is the mindset that will propel the "magic negro" into the White House".
When you combine the abysmal performance of the Republicans when they controlled congress, with the poor quality of our candidate in this presidential cycle, I see disaster looming. I will vote (reluctantly) for McCain in November, but I supported Bob Dole in 1996, and I see this campaign shaping up almost EXACTLY like that election. In 1996, with the Republicans controlling both houses of congress, the national party chose to run an old, tired senator from Kansas, who also happened to be a war hero......his military record, or strength on national defense didn't help him a bit. IMHO the only difference between this presidential election and Dole vs Clinton is that Dole was running against a popular incumbent president. In this election we have another old tired senatorial retread running in a party that has lost its identity, and is not only increasing unpopular, but is losing more of its identity with each issue that arises to the national attention.
I simply do not believe that the voting population of this country is sophisticated enough to consider all of the nuances of either the issues, or the candidates' qualifications.......the country is fed up with high fuel prices, and like it or not, they are going to take it out on the Republicans this fall. The voters are tired of the conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan, and right or wrong, the Republicans are going to pay a price for that.
Politics runs in cycles, and I, having been born in the waning years of the fourth term of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, have seen many of these cycles......I think that we are moving into a "bread and circuses" cycle, where the populace will find the "Hope and Change" mantra very seductive, even if the "change" is largely undefined and unexplained. Most of the voters don't care what Obama stands for, they are just looking for a scapegoat to vent their collective frustrations with what they perceive as a long, unsettling time in American politics.
Had the Republicans started grooming a young dynamic leader after the 2004 elections, and started queuing him/her up for this election during this period, things might have been different. When this is coupled with Bush selecting Cheney as VP, who announced early on that he had no presidential aspirations, he plugged a natural stepping stone for elevation of a secession within the party leadership. That didn't happen.....it didn't happen because the republican party had no leadership that was/is capable of planning anything longer in scope than the next two-year election cycle.........the same party leadership (or lack thereof) that should never have allowed McCain to become the candidate to begin with......
As a political discussion board, we, as a group, can never forget the fact that we are not typical of the American voter.....we are not even close.....by definition, we are here because we take an interest in politics in general, and conservative politics specifically.........we are no more typical of the American electorate than the denizens of DU are.....we forget that at our peril.....
Just my thoughts, but I certainly smell a Bob Dole moment coming on........
doc
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Doc, my sense is that Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to overplay the "you're a racist" card, and of course the primitives are helping him do it.
The syphilitic leader of Libya some weeks ago said Barry "Goldwater" Obama has an inferiority complex; and despite his corroded cerebral cells, I agree with the mad leader. People with inferiority complexes, when things aren't going their way, have a tendency to panic and overreact, with disastrous consequences.
It looks to me as if Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to overplay this "you're a racist" card.
And in the end upsetting the 90% of the electorate, washed and unwashed, that isn't black.
At the moment, there are Republicans and southerners who resent this notion that they're racist.
The more this "you're a racist if you don't vote for me" stuff is done, the more and more of that 90% is going to get pissed off; the other minorities, and ultimately even the diehard Democrat blue-collar masses of inner-city Boston and Cleveland and Chicago and Seattle are going to resent it.
And the more he falls behind in the polls, the more Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to play that card, leading to a vicious downward cycle.
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Doc, my sense is that Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to overplay the "you're a racist" card, and of course the primitives are helping him do it.
The syphilitic leader of Libya some weeks ago said Barry "Goldwater" Obama has an inferiority complex; and despite his corroded cerebral cells, I agree with the mad leader. People with inferiority complexes, when things aren't going their way, have a tendency to panic and overreact, with disastrous consequences.
It looks to me as if Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to overplay this "you're a racist" card.
And in the end upsetting the 90% of the electorate, washed and unwashed, that isn't black.
At the moment, there are Republicans and southerners who resent this notion that they're racist.
The more this "you're a racist if you don't vote for me" stuff is done, the more and more of that 90% is going to get pissed off; the other minorities, and ultimately even the diehard Democrat blue-collar masses of inner-city Boston and Cleveland and Chicago and Seattle are going to resent it.
And the more he falls behind in the polls, the more Barry "Goldwater" Obama's going to play that card, leading to a vicious downward cycle.
I certainly hope that you are correct.....
doc
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No major changes. It will probably cause me to accelerate some purchases, and give me an excellent reason to hasten my retirement since working for DOD will suck donkey balls if he gets in.
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Didn't you hear BC? President Obama has promised to open up Soilent Green Euthanasia Centers all across America, as part of his bid to end world hunger - and all opposition to his "benevolent administration" in America.
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(http://eureka3d.com/fauxnews/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/soylent_green07.jpg)
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I'll be leaving the country if Obama is elected.
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I'm gonna quit my job, my wife is gonna quit her job, and Obama is going to take care of us.
That's the hot ticket. No point in working hard -- he's just going to take it away, anyway. Better to let some OTHER suckers work hard and just slide on the dole.