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Title: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 12, 2014, 10:27:35 AM
The IRS and DOJ will be all over your ass.

The following copied from..... http://michellemalkin.com/?p=153595

Some lawmakers, though, have claimed that the mere threat of the employer mandate is causing companies to shed full-time workers in the hope of keeping their staff size below 50 and avoiding the requirement.

Administration officials dispute that this is happening on any large scale. Further, Treasury officials said Monday that businesses will be told to “certify” that they are not shedding full-time workers simply to avoid the mandate. Officials said employers will be told to sign a “self-attestation” on their tax forms affirming this, under penalty of perjury.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: marv on February 12, 2014, 11:12:02 AM
Labor lie...er lawyers will get a windfall. Every newly laid off worker, whatever the reason, is gonna sue.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: Dori on February 12, 2014, 11:36:03 AM

How is an employer going to know down the road if he can keep all his employees or not?  This can't be legal.

 

Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: obumazombie on February 12, 2014, 11:40:00 AM
If it can't be legal, it came from rodeowebuma.



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Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: thundley4 on February 12, 2014, 11:46:29 AM
If they can do this, then what is to stop them from doing the same thing if they do pass a higher minimum wage?
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: Dori on February 12, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
If they can do this, then what is to stop them from doing the same thing if they do pass a higher minimum wage?

But this wasn't passed into law.  Obama waved his magic wand and made it happen.  He has made 29 changes to the ACA since it was passed in congress.  :mad:
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: thundley4 on February 12, 2014, 12:10:05 PM
But this wasn't passed into law.  Obama waved his magic wand and made it happen.  He has made 29 changes to the ACA since it was passed in congress.  :mad:

Exactly. If they can prevent layoffs for something that isn't a law, then they will do it for something that is a law. (assuming minimum wage increase gets passed)
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: FlaGator on February 12, 2014, 12:21:16 PM
I understand this to be a condition for businesses who accept the offer to delay the employer mandate.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: Eupher on February 12, 2014, 12:32:02 PM
What a ****ing joke.

Justice, Treasury and the IRS are going to insist on a statement, under penalty of perjury, that companies aren't shitcanning people because of Barrycare?

When the Head Liar himself in the White House can't open his cock holster long enough to tell anything BUT a fabrication, companies are actually going to pay attention to that threat?

 :orly:     :bwah:
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: DefiantSix on February 12, 2014, 12:41:10 PM
What a ****ing joke.

Justice, Treasury and the IRS are going to insist on a statement, under penalty of perjury, that companies aren't shitcanning people because of Barrycare?

When the Head Liar himself in the White House can't open his cock holster long enough to tell anything BUT a fabrication, companies are actually going to pay attention to that threat?

 :orly:     :bwah:

Never mind the fact that Il Douche will be having the Justice :rotf: Department and the IRS crawling up EVERY business' ass with a microscope, regardless of what they've sworn on a stack of Q'urans under penalty of perjury.  The faulty logic everybody is ignoring is that DOJ and IRS aren't being used as political bludgeons by the Regime.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: thundley4 on February 12, 2014, 01:16:13 PM
Never mind the fact that Il Douche will be having the Justice :rotf: Department and the IRS crawling up EVERY business' ass with a microscope, regardless of what they've sworn on a stack of Q'urans under penalty of perjury.  The faulty logic everybody is ignoring is that DOJ and IRS aren't being used as political bludgeons by the Regime.

The first thing that will be checked is if the business and owners donated to Barry's election campaigns. Tose the di will get a pass.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: b-ONE-b on February 12, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
unbelievable.... this CAN'T be legal!!
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: Chris_ on February 12, 2014, 02:30:02 PM
unbelievable.... this CAN'T be legal!!
If you think that's bad, you should check out the immigration changes in the ACA bill as well.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: obumazombie on February 12, 2014, 02:37:52 PM
If you think that's bad, you should check out the immigration changes in the ACA bill as well.
Something to mole over.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 12, 2014, 03:33:11 PM
The first thing that will be checked is if the business and owners donated to Barry's election campaigns. Tose the di will get a pass.

Exactly!!! He's already done it in the past! Yer ****ed if you lean conservative. This prick has no shame! He thinks he's a ****in' king! Hugo got nuttin' on this guy! Soros will be proud his puppet is following the line.

Did ya hear about his speech on income inequality while eating like a gourmet and the Wookie wearin' a $12,000 dress?
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: Eupher on February 12, 2014, 03:49:30 PM
Exactly!!! He's already done it in the past! Yer ****ed if you lean conservative. This prick has no shame! He thinks he's a ****in' king! Hugo got nuttin' on this guy! Soros will be proud his puppet is following the line.

Did ya hear about his speech on income inequality while eating like a gourmet and the Wookie wearin' a $12,000 dress?

The Wookie's ass is so big it took that much polyester just to cover it.  :whatever:
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 12, 2014, 03:51:08 PM
The Wookie's ass is so big it took that much polyester just to cover it.  :whatever:
We should require her dresses be made from old salvage parachutes.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: FlaGator on February 12, 2014, 05:44:06 PM
Calm down people. This doesn't apply to all businesses, just the businesses who have between 50 and 99 employees and who want to apply for an extra year delay in the employer mandate. They are being asked to state that they didn't fire anyone in order to get under the 99 employee upper limit and that while the are getting the extra time they don't fire anyone because of Obamacare.

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The government will now exempt companies employing between 50 and 100 full-time workers from complying with the mandate that they offer employees affordable health insurance by another year, until 2016.

Companies that have 100 or more full-time workers, defined as employees who work more than 30 hours per week, still will have to begin complying with the mandate to offer such coverage in 2015 or face financial penalties of at least $2,000 and up to $3,000 per worker.

Officials said that any business claiming they are eligible for the new one-year delay because they have fewer than 100 workers must certify, under penalty of perjury, that it had not reduced its workforce merely to qualify for that exemption.

Found here. (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101393331)
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: Freeper on February 12, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
Calm down people. This doesn't apply to all businesses, just the businesses who have between 50 and 99 employees and who want to apply for an extra year delay in the employer mandate. They are being asked to state that they didn't fire anyone in order to get under the 99 employee upper limit and that while the are getting the extra time they don't fire anyone because of Obamacare.

Found here. (http://www.cnbc.com/id/101393331)

Yeah we can trust them to follow those guidelines. Well unless Obama has access to a pen.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 12, 2014, 06:04:38 PM
This prick needs to look up dictator in the dictionary! All the while the repub establishment turns their back and lets him get away with it. ****in' cowards!
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: RayRaytheSBS on February 12, 2014, 06:26:51 PM
We should require her dresses be made from old salvage parachutes.

That would require at least a G-11 cargo parachute! :fuelfire:!
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: Dori on February 12, 2014, 06:29:42 PM
This prick needs to look up dictator in the dictionary! All the while the repub establishment turns their back and lets him get away with it. ****in' cowards!

Outside of Impeaching him (like they did Clinton) I don't know what they can do.  They would have to have the Senate and a lot of Democrats get on board to stop him.

Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: NHSparky on February 12, 2014, 06:33:39 PM
How is an employer going to know down the road if he can keep all his employees or not?  This can't be legal.

It isn't, just like age discrimination is "illegal", but good luck proving it.

And it's also going to keep companies from hiring people, surprise, surprise.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 12, 2014, 06:37:44 PM
Now you know why the liberals hand picked a black president. Not because they can really stand him but because he can get away with murder. The politicians are afraid that 12% of the population will rape, murder, burn and in general, just run wild if anyone opposes him in any significant way.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: obumazombie on February 12, 2014, 10:48:58 PM
Now you know why the liberals hand picked a black president. Not because they can really stand him but because he can get away with murder. The politicians are afraid that 12% of the population will rape, murder, burn and in general, just run wild if anyone opposes him in any significant way.
They had the same control over them with the useful idiots Sharpton and Jackson. I don't see need in that direction any further. But, you may be absolutely correct.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: txradioguy on February 13, 2014, 06:58:42 AM
Great.  Now in yet another effort to hide the truth of what a failure this policy really is....the Administration is using the threat of prosecution to silence people and force businesses into untenable situations.

What country are we living in again?
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: txradioguy on February 13, 2014, 06:59:38 AM


And it's also going to keep companies from hiring people, surprise, surprise.

The next thing we'll hear about is the Government forcing companies to hire people whether they can afford it or not.
Title: Re: You can't fire workers because of Obamacare.....
Post by: Big Dog on February 13, 2014, 07:11:49 AM
Directive 10-289 is in effect.