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Title: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Dori on February 11, 2014, 12:04:04 PM
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kpete (41,864 posts)

Walmart’s Labor Practices Backfire: People are voting with their feet and with their wallets.  

Walmart’s Labor Practices Backfire :


Wolfe Research, an equities research firm, downgraded Walmart in a new research report, citing understaffing, among other problems.

The firm lowered Walmart from a “market perform” rating to an “underperform” rating, pointing to three main causes: understaffing, an erosion of its price advantage against competitors, and costs associated with intensifying pressure from worker organizing.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/02/10/3271221/walmart-downgraded-understaffing/

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KG (24,411 posts)

1. can't buy what isn't on the shelf. lots of empty shelf space the local WM grocery store

How would you know if you don't shop there?
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Aerows (21,376 posts)

46. Exactly
 
Even in places where they should be a great employer, they don't have enough people to stock the shelves or check people out.

Keep paying people shit wages and treating them like dirt, and you will find no one wanting to work for you. No one wanting to work for you means nothing on the shelf, no one to check you out, and customers going other places. Business 101.

And in three posts, they're off to the races  :fuelfire:

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BlueCaliDem (6,516 posts)

3. Yay! People are finally waking up to the fact that WalMart is BAD for America.

May they continue to flounder or may they get an epiphany and realize that their workers and customers are a larger pool than the wealthy and well-connected.

 
Yes it is...
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cstanleytech (6,444 posts)

9. No, walmart isnt bad for america.

The assholes running it and other companies like it who dont want to pay a living wage is what is bad for america.


No it's not...

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MynameisBlarney (1,531 posts)

10. Yes it is IMHO

They run all the mom & pops stores out of business to sell inferior products.
 

Yes it is....

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1StrongBlackMan (8,641 posts)

29. I, in no way, support ...
 
the walmart business model. But it is the consumer that ran the Mom & Pop stores out of business. If they (the M&Ps) were actually providing superior products, the consumers chose cheap over quality.

No, it's not.....


Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Wineslob on February 11, 2014, 12:08:57 PM
Iv'e got a problem with Walmart. Ours is beginning to smell like a K-Mart.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 11, 2014, 12:24:00 PM
Just like a clock, these people chime in on a regular basis. Same 'ol, same 'ol. DUmmies is gettin' so predictable to the point of bein' boring.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 11, 2014, 12:25:00 PM
Just like a clock, these people chime in on a regular basis. Same 'ol, same 'ol. DUmmies is gettin' so predictable to the point of bein' boring.

On the plus side, you can set a clock by them . . . :tongue: :whistling:
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Karin on February 11, 2014, 12:35:04 PM
My problem with Walmart is the people that go there, and their wailing children in particular.  Especially on the first of every month. 
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: thundley4 on February 11, 2014, 12:39:15 PM
My problem with Walmart is the people that go there, and their wailing children in particular.  Especially on the first of every month. 

That and they never seem to have enough check out lanes open.  That isn't a staffing problem, though, because there are plenty of workers wandering the aisles bugging me asking if I need help.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: wasp69 on February 11, 2014, 12:43:36 PM
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KG (24,411 posts)

1. can't buy what isn't on the shelf. lots of empty shelf space the local WM grocery store

Get a job, DUmmie, and you won't have to jockey with the rest of the democrat trash on EBT day.

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Aerows (21,376 posts)

46. Exactly
 
Even in places where they should be a great employer, they don't have enough people to stock the shelves or check people out.

Keep paying people shit wages and treating them like dirt, and you will find no one wanting to work for you. No one wanting to work for you means nothing on the shelf, no one to check you out, and customers going other places. 

Here's a newsflash for you, DUmbass:

In the great oconomy, a job is a job until adults get back into government and un**** the liberal mess.  At least it is to normal, civilized people.

To you mooching ****s, it's easier to spend my tax money than to actually have to work.  If you pay someone more to sit on their ass and procreate, guess what they're going to do?

 :whatever:

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Business 101.

Whatever, you ignorant ****.  Like you have any idea...   :whatever:


Also, is it just me or did these cretins forget that empty shelves in Hugo's Workers ParadiseTM meant the people had more buying power?  Can't they ever keep a story straight?
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: USA4ME on February 11, 2014, 12:48:41 PM
Oooooooooooooo!  Wolfe Research said it, so it must be true.

Looking up Wolfe Research, I see they have an annual revenue of $2,700,000.  Wow! They're right there with a whole bunch of other research groups no one pays attention to because they haven't proven themselves to be reliable.

Look primitives, the on-line publication thinkprogress is for idiots, which explains why you like them. They're a project of the Center for American Progress which admits it's an anti-American front group. It's even in their title - Progressive Ideas For A Strong, Just, And Free America - which to you kooks is the same as turning the country into a modern-day USSR.

So once again, you continue to use sources that can't be trusted.

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Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 11, 2014, 01:03:39 PM
My problem with Walmart is the people that go there, and their wailing children in particular.  Especially on the first of every month. 

Myself, I avoid shopping of any kind like the plague. Having said that, "Toots" doesn't go near the place from the 1st to the 5th. If ya wanna know the dregs of society, (the people our taxes are supporting), just go to Wally World during the first week of the month!

Get a job, DUmmie, and you won't have to jockey with the rest of the democrat trash on EBT day.

Here's a newsflash for you, DUmbass:

In the great oconomy, a job is a job until adults get back into government and un**** the liberal mess.  At least it is to normal, civilized people.

To you mooching ****s, it's easier to spend my tax money than to actually have to work.  If you pay someone more to sit on their ass and procreate, guess what they're going to do?

 :whatever:

Whatever, you ignorant ****.  Like you have any idea...   :whatever:


Also, is it just me or did these cretins forget that empty shelves in Hugo's Workers ParadiseTM meant the people had more buying power?  Can't they ever keep a story straight?

You do realize yer singin' to the choir right, Wasp? If we could take away gubmint checks from the DUmmies, their site would cease to exist! If they weren't gettin' paid to sit in their mom's basement, they wouldn't have time to tell us how unfair life is.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 11, 2014, 01:05:19 PM
Maybe they don't have enough employees because Obama pays better?
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Carl on February 11, 2014, 01:16:56 PM
Maybe they don't have enough employees because Obama pays better?

Just a few days ago the DUmp was celebrating the new American dream of little work and government subsidy.
Who is going to wait on them now that Ocare has "liberated" so many from their crap jobs?
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on February 11, 2014, 01:51:30 PM
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Aerows (21,376 posts)

46. Exactly
 
Even in places where they should be a great employer, they don't have enough people to stock the shelves or check people out.

Keep paying people shit wages and treating them like dirt, and you will find no one wanting to work for you. No one wanting to work for you means nothing on the shelf, no one to check you out, and customers going other places. Business 101.

You wouldn't know Business 101 if it bit you in the ass like a raccoon.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Carl on February 11, 2014, 02:09:22 PM
Last I checked,Business 101 would be that if what a company is offering for compensation does not attract adequate staff numbers or competence to operate then they increase the value of the package.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Dori on February 11, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
Last I checked,Business 101 would be that if what a company is offering for compensation does not attract adequate staff numbers or competence to operate then they increase the value of the package.

I worked as a department manager in retail for a large chain.  Walmart sounds like they are using the same model.  It's a formula that uses historical data to schedule labor hours vs sales projections.

They don't schedule employees by dollars, but by hours.  It's up to the managers of the stores to adhere to those hours, or they get called on the carpet by corporate and lose bonuses.

The biggest problem with stocking the shelves has more to do with corporate than how many employees are on the floor.  If the store doesn't get their shipments in because of late deliveries or slow suppliers, that seems to be a purchasing/distribution problem.  Also, a lot of purchases are months in advance of actual receipt.

I think it's the suppliers that are having the problems getting their stuff out the door and into the central warehouses.













Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: dane on February 11, 2014, 02:55:11 PM
Do the DUmmies who hate WalMart because of shoddy merchandise, much of which is from China - which the DUmmies love to hate because of 'worker exploitation - ever think to complain about the granting (and annual extension) of Most Favored Nation status (recently renamed NTR, or Normal Trade Relations)?

Perhaps reducing the influx of shoddy merchandise would cause more manufacturing/production to return to the US, and allow the DUmmies to focus on expanding the unions they also love.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: USA4ME on February 11, 2014, 04:00:13 PM
I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart didn't become the largest retailer in the world because they didn't know how to stock their shelves or how many man-hours it takes. The moonbats are doing what they normally do -- barking for no good reason except to hear themselves bark.

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Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 11, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
I'm pretty sure Wal-Mart didn't become the largest retailer in the world because they didn't know how to stock their shelves or how many man-hours it takes. The moonbats are doing what they normally do -- barking for no good reason except to hear themselves bark.

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Kinda like fartin' just to smell 'em, huh?
Title: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Dori on February 11, 2014, 04:37:44 PM
Perhaps reducing the influx of shoddy merchandise would cause more manufacturing/production to return to the US, and allow the DUmmies to focus on expanding the unions they also love.

There lies the problem. Union wages drive up costs which in turn reduces demand. That's why a lot of production went to other countries in the first place.  

Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: freedumb2003b on February 11, 2014, 04:47:17 PM
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Keep paying people shit wages and treating them like dirt, and you will find no one wanting to work for you. No one wanting to work for you means nothing on the shelf, no one to check you out, and customers going other places. Business 101.
You wouldn't know Business 101 if it bit you in the ass like a raccoon.

Has anyone EVER heard of a Walmart shutting down since they started in 4000 BC (then called "Wallvs Martvs")?  Their losing business model seems to have held up pretty damn well...
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: thundley4 on February 11, 2014, 05:16:54 PM
Hey DUmmies.

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAQm3j-kA4[/youtube]

Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs fame is trying to bring back good paying blue collar jobs. He's perfect for these Walmart ads.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: diesel driver on February 11, 2014, 06:41:50 PM

Myself, I avoid shopping of any kind like the plague. Having said that, "Toots" doesn't go near the place from the 1st to the 5th. If ya wanna know the dregs of society, (the people our taxes are supporting), just go to Wally World during the first week of the month!


You don't have to wait that long.  When I worked as an overnight cashier at our local Wallyworld, the "freakshow" usually started right after 2:00am, and continued until 4:00 or so.  Buggies full of dirty, screaming kids, baby's mammas in PJ's, baby's daddys drunk, both "parents" north of 250 pounds and with so many piercings they looked like they fell face first into an open fishing tackle box!  Tattoos galore.  Picking up chips, candy, sodas, etc., and paying for it with EBT or WIC. 

Usually got real quiet after they left.  4-6 was the LONGEST 2 hours of the entire night!
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: seahorse513 on February 11, 2014, 06:45:15 PM
That and they never seem to have enough check out lanes open.  That isn't a staffing problem, though, because there are plenty of workers wandering the aisles bugging me asking if I need help.

Well, FINE!! I wont ask you tomorrow!!
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: landofconfusion80 on February 11, 2014, 06:47:33 PM
You don't have to wait that long.  When I worked as an overnight cashier at our local Wallyworld, the "freakshow" usually started right after 2:00am, and continued until 4:00 or so.  Buggies full of dirty, screaming kids, baby's mammas in PJ's, baby's daddys drunk, both "parents" north of 250 pounds and with so many piercings they looked like they fell face first into an open fishing tackle box!  Tattoos galore.  Picking up chips, candy, sodas, etc., and paying for it with EBT or WIC. 

Usually got real quiet after they left.  4-6 was the LONGEST 2 hours of the entire night!

Bet there was a whole lot of mopping after that stretch...  they really piss me off here cause they get those pre-cooked chicken wings and eat them as they're walking around the store and stuffing the box into any shelf nearby. just nasty.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Dori on February 11, 2014, 07:12:58 PM
....so many piercings they looked like they fell face first into an open fishing tackle box! 

 :rotf:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvxNgdFeWqM[/youtube]



Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: thundley4 on February 11, 2014, 07:18:35 PM
Well, FINE!! I wont ask you tomorrow!!

How did you know I was going to Walmart tomorrow? 

That being said, several years ago before DVR's were popular and well known, we bought a combination DVR/DVD burner. You could record to the hard drive or create a DVD from a recording.  We decided we liked it and went to get a second one several weeks later.

No one the electronics department had a clue as to what I was wanting. I had the brand name and model number written down. I was told they didn't carry anything like it and never had. WTF??

Ended up going to the Walmart on the opposite side of town and they had plenty of them on the shelf.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: Gina on February 11, 2014, 11:09:12 PM
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cstanleytech (6,444 posts)

9. No, walmart isnt guns aren't bad for america.

The assholes shooting them are the problem. running it and other companies like it who dont want to pay a living wage is what is bad for america.

This is what I say about guns!!! If guns cause crime then matches cause arson
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: dandi on February 12, 2014, 12:32:40 AM
My sister works at a Belk's department store and just had her hours cut back, which they do for the first quarter of every year. I would imagine it's a common practice among most large retailers.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: RobJohnson on February 12, 2014, 02:52:14 AM
I worked as a department manager in retail for a large chain.  Walmart sounds like they are using the same model.  It's a formula that uses historical data to schedule labor hours vs sales projections.

They don't schedule employees by dollars, but by hours.  It's up to the managers of the stores to adhere to those hours, or they get called on the carpet by corporate and lose bonuses.

The biggest problem with stocking the shelves has more to do with corporate than how many employees are on the floor.  If the store doesn't get their shipments in because of late deliveries or slow suppliers, that seems to be a purchasing/distribution problem.  Also, a lot of purchases are months in advance of actual receipt.

I think it's the suppliers that are having the problems getting their stuff out the door and into the central warehouses.

All true.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: diesel driver on February 12, 2014, 08:47:03 AM
:rotf:

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvxNgdFeWqM[/youtube]





The pic in the lower right corner looks like what comes in after 2:00am.   :lmao:
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 12, 2014, 01:29:47 PM
Unless my dogs and cats run out of food and "Toots" is visiting family, I refuse to enter Wally World. One good thing is I have a Handicap parking permit so I don't have to walk a mile for a camel!
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: diesel driver on February 12, 2014, 02:03:08 PM
Unless my dogs and cats run out of food and "Toots" is visiting family, I refuse to enter Wally World. One good thing is I have a Handicap parking permit so I don't have to walk a mile for a camel!

So does the boss, but unless you go early in the morning, most of those are taken by geezers, especially on "check day".
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 12, 2014, 02:15:28 PM
So does the boss, but unless you go early in the morning, most of those are taken by geezers, especially on "check day".

Well I live where people still have class. "Toots" won't use it if I'm not with her. Ya actually have a handicap around here. If ya don't, everyone in the parking lot will ridicule you and a few might kick yer ass!
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: obumazombie on February 12, 2014, 02:57:00 PM
Alright cavers, help me out with my math.
I understand the average starting wage of Wally World is $10.00/hr.
Now owebuma wants the minimum wage to be $10.10/hr.
What, if anything, am I missing ?
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 12, 2014, 03:15:11 PM
Alright cavers, help me out with my math.
I understand the average starting wage of Wally World is $10.00/hr.
Now owebuma wants the minimum wage to be $10.10/hr.
What, if anything, am I missing ?

Average starting wage at Wally World is $8 around here. Other than that, yer not missin' anything. O'Bummer is only paddin' the pockets of gubmint slugs. If you've ever watched those guys, they oughta be payin' us! Same thing as watchin' a federal highway job. 5 guys standin' around while one guy digs a hole.

It's a union thing.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: obumazombie on February 12, 2014, 03:23:29 PM
Average starting wage at Wally World is $8 around here. Other than that, yer not missin' anything. O'Bummer is only paddin' the pockets of gubmint slugs. If you've ever watched those guys, they oughta be payin' us! Same thing as watchin' a federal highway job. 5 guys standin' around while one guy digs a hole.

It's a union thing.
The average hourly full time pay at Wally World is $12.83...


http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-23/more-than-half-of-walmarts-hourly-workers-make-less-than-25-000 (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-23/more-than-half-of-walmarts-hourly-workers-make-less-than-25-000)


Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 12, 2014, 03:36:51 PM
The average hourly full time pay at Wally World is $12.83...


http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-23/more-than-half-of-walmarts-hourly-workers-make-less-than-25-000 (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-23/more-than-half-of-walmarts-hourly-workers-make-less-than-25-000)



A fellow that once worked for me is now making over $20 an hr. working for WAL-MART and with a full package of benefits.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 12, 2014, 03:42:45 PM
A fellow that once worked for me is now making over $20 an hr. working for WAL-MART and with a full package of benefits.

I live in a right to work state. They still only pay you what yer worth. Granted, I doubt there are any workers being paid $8 here, but that is their starting wage.

my daughter is a Pharm Tech working at Wally's and makes $18 plus bennies, but she's been there for 12 years.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: obumazombie on February 12, 2014, 04:01:55 PM
I live in a right to work state. They still only pay you what yer worth. Granted, I doubt there are any workers being paid $8 here, but that is their starting wage.

my daughter is a Pharm Tech working at Wally's and makes $18 plus bennies, but she's been there for 12 years.
I don't dispute that at all.
What I can't get straight is $12.83 is > $10.10, which owebuma is offering.
If libs are mad at Wally World, shouldn't they be even madder at their messiah ?
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: thundley4 on February 12, 2014, 04:16:34 PM
Was just at Walmart. They have a lot of stuff on tables marked for clearance, but the regular shelves were fully stocked. The place was crowded, too. It's the first day above 20 degrees in awhile.
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: JohnnyReb on February 12, 2014, 04:18:50 PM
I live in a right to work state. They still only pay you what yer worth. Granted, I doubt there are any workers being paid $8 here, but that is their starting wage.

my daughter is a Pharm Tech working at Wally's and makes $18 plus bennies, but she's been there for 12 years.
This fellow has been with them about 15 years. Started out unloading trucks on the weekend shift. Moved up to better jobs. One was forklift mechanic and now some form of supervision.

He got his girlfriend pregnant and dropped out of high school in the tenth grade to support her and raise a family...no government freebies ever for him. He started working for me as a second job and was more dependable than any of my employees. He worked for me only for about 12 years until WAL-MART opened a distribution center about 30 miles away. I encouraged him to apply for a weekend job there for the benefits. He wasn't going to apply because they required a high school diploma. The lady at WAL-MART called to ask me about his work record. I told her the truth and added, "I know he doesn't look like the type but he's hard working, honest, dependable and will make you a good employee." She asked why I was encouraging her to hire him and if he was going to continue to work for me during the week. I was honest, I told her he needed the extra money and especial benefits. Told her that he had been working at least two full time jobs most of the time since he was 15 years old.

When the WAL-MART distribution center first opened they had people quitting right and left.  They just didn't want to work at the pace they required or to be on the job every time they were supposed to be. The hiring lady called me more than once  wanting to know if I knew any more like the fellow I had recommended. I told her "NO" but if I did I'd hire them myself and let her use them on the weekends.....LOL
Title: Re: Walmart Derangement Syndrome On Display
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 12, 2014, 05:54:07 PM
This fellow has been with them about 15 years. Started out unloading trucks on the weekend shift. Moved up to better jobs. One was forklift mechanic and now some form of supervision.

He got his girlfriend pregnant and dropped out of high school in the tenth grade to support her and raise a family...no government freebies ever for him. He started working for me as a second job and was more dependable than any of my employees. He worked for me only for about 12 years until WAL-MART opened a distribution center about 30 miles away. I encouraged him to apply for a weekend job there for the benefits. He wasn't going to apply because they required a high school diploma. The lady at WAL-MART called to ask me about his work record. I told her the truth and added, "I know he doesn't look like the type but he's hard working, honest, dependable and will make you a good employee." She asked why I was encouraging her to hire him and if he was going to continue to work for me during the week. I was honest, I told her he needed the extra money and especial benefits. Told her that he had been working at least two full time jobs most of the time since he was 15 years old.

When the WAL-MART distribution center first opened they had people quitting right and left.  They just didn't want to work at the pace they required or to be on the job every time they were supposed to be. The hiring lady called me more than once  wanting to know if I knew any more like the fellow I had recommended. I told her "NO" but if I did I'd hire them myself and let her use them on the weekends.....LOL

^5 Bubba!