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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on June 28, 2008, 08:31:20 PM
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If there is any doubt what is at stake in the next election, just read DU.
Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-28-08 08:14 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3536812
McCain: Gun ownership "sacred"... how over the top is this?
Advertisements [?]"Unlike the elitist view that believes Americans cling to guns out of bitterness, today's ruling recognizes that gun ownership is a fundamental right -- sacred, just as the right to free speech and assembly." (John McCain)
LINK: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/...
I'm sorry but to call the right to own a device, the sole purpose of which is to bring about death and destruction, "sacred" is about as looney as it gets... and if this isn't the nuttiest of his "nut jobbiness" I don't know what is.
Seems the meaning of the word sacred has hit an all-time low.
There was a discussion on the ABC evening news today about guns and children in urban areas and how so many youngsters are dying every day because guns are so easily and quickly obtained and used. I didn't catch who the name of the person who said this but he had a most poignant point to make when he said, "When we value the right to bear arms more than we value the lives of our chidlren, then what is wrong here?" -- I could not have said it better.
Do you believe that the right to gun ownership is sacred?
virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-28-08 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Let me Clarify...
Edited on Sat Jun-28-08 08:30 PM by virginia mountainman
ALL, Civil Rights are sacred.....
I WILL NOT PICK AND CHOSE over them like a $3.99 Chinese Buffet.....I WANT THEM ALL...
EDIT, Republicans,and there allies, are the ones that want to dissect the B of R, we REAL Democrats, will stand for them ALL.
::)
Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-28-08 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. OK, fine...
I guess I just reserve my concept of "sacred" as something somewhat more sublime than having the right to maim and kill.
Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-28-08 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Did I ever suggest I was objective?
No, I quite passionately despise guns and wish they did not exist.
Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-28-08 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. Actually, believe it or not, there may come a day...
when people will no longer see any need or use for weapons. I personally don't think that's crap.
RC (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-28-08 08:44 PM
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11. Sacred? Gun ownership sacred?
Doesn't 'sacred' have to do with religion? I know guns are a religious and/or sexual device for some, but sacred for most people, I don't think so.
Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-28-08 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #11
24. Yes, *sacred*...
Main Entry: sa·cred
Pronunciation: \ˈsÄ-krÉ™d\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from past participle of sacren to consecrate, from Anglo-French sacrer, from Latin sacrare, from sacr-, sacer sacred; akin to Latin sancire to make sacred, Hittite Å¡aklÄi- rite
Date: 14th century
1 a: dedicated or set apart for the service or worship of a deity <a tree sacred to the gods> b: devoted exclusively to one service or use (as of a person or purpose) <a fund sacred to charity>
2 a: worthy of religious veneration : holy b: entitled to reverence and respect
3: of or relating to religion : not secular or profane <sacred music>
4archaic : accursed
5 a: unassailable, inviolable b: highly valued and important <a sacred responsibility>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sacred
I'm non-religious, but hold many things *sacred* to my heart & soul... things such as our Constitution, *ALL* of our Rights *guaranteed* to us in our Constitution amd/or Bill of Rights, childhood innocence, freedom,... need I go on?
Loki (1000+ posts) Sat Jun-28-08 09:08 PM
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21. The Second Amendment
is the only part of the Constitution the Republicans don't take a shit on.
hmm.. Last time I checked, it was a liberal taking a shit on the constitution...and calling it art.
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I'm sorry but to call the right to own a device, the sole purpose of which is to bring about death and destruction, "sacred" is about as looney as it gets... and if this isn't the nuttiest of his "nut jobbiness" I don't know what is.
Abortion clinics? Planned Parenthood offices?
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McCain meant, and should have said, that the right of a human being to have the means of SELF DEFENSE is sacred.
I believe the right to SELF DEFENSE is a human right; and it's a hollow right unless you have the MEANS.
Today, as was the case in 1789, the most effective means of self defense is a firearm.
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I'm sorry but to call the right to own a device, the sole purpose of which is to bring about death and destruction, "sacred" is about as looney as it gets... and if this isn't the nuttiest of his "nut jobbiness" I don't know what is.
Abortion clinics? Planned Parenthood offices?
Don't you know, unborn children aren't real people. They may be smarter and more able to care for themselves than most DUmpMonkeys, but they aren't really people until they are breathing on their own. And for some DUmmies, like Obama, even that isn't enough. :banghead: