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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 25, 2014, 05:27:12 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024385340
Oh my.
NYC_SKP (57,129 posts) Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:31 PM
"I’m certainly against one of Senator Obama’s ideas, which is to lift the cap on the payroll tax"
On increasing the payroll taxes (Social Security taxes) on people over $102,000 and under $250,000?
"CLINTON: I don’t want to raise taxes on anybody.
I’m certainly against one of Senator Obama’s ideas, which is to lift the cap on the payroll tax, because that would impose additional taxes on people who are educators, police officers, firefighters and the like."
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Hillary_Clinton_Social_Security.htm
Stolen from JDPriestly's insightful OP: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024379279
Yes, all those teachers making over $102,000.
Out of touch, much, Senator???
after which an icon of the former First Lady
elleng (44,622 posts) Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:33 PM
1. Oh SKP!
NYC_SKP (57,129 posts) Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:42 PM
5. I know.
I've always favored the underdog and I find it as disturbing now as I did in 2007 that the machine is moving to determine the outcome of the primary.
Why? Not based on merit so much as who has power and influence.
I just don't think that's the democratic process I learned about in school.
Sorry.
elleng (44,622 posts) Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:46 PM
6. Darn right.
I supported Wes Clark.
CaliforniaPeggy (107,592 posts) Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:35 PM
2. This is just one of her positions that I strongly disagree with.
I do not want her as President............of anything.
customerserviceguy (15,699 posts) Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:40 PM
11. If she finally decides to run
You're stuck. Neither the progressive left or the hateful right will be able to stop her in either the primaries or the general. She just fascinates too many people who don't bother to think about politics until the weekend before an election.
delrem (3,819 posts) Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:47 PM
14. I don't think she'll win a GE. Primary yes, but a GE no. Just my opinion.
bluestateguy (40,130 posts) Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:51 PM
8. It's not an idea that Obama ever bothered to advance
I do know of some cops who made that much by working overtime in higher pay states like NY or NJ.
Hardly any teachers make that much, but some tenured college professors do.
karynnj (48,508 posts) Sat Jan 25, 2014, 12:05 AM
15. Consider that everyone pays this tax starting at the first dollar earned.
If a teacher or a cop, in some high income area has to pay these taxes on a higher proportion of their income, is that more of a burden on them or on someone making minimum wage and paying for every dollar they earn.
rufus dog (5,069 posts) Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:44 PM
12. And there is a very obvious solution to the problem she brought up
Create a donut hole. Don't want to tax well paid working class, fine, exempt 100k to 250k, then tax again over 250k. Not that complicated if that is the group she is truly concerned about.
hfojvt (33,309 posts) Sat Jan 25, 2014, 02:29 AM
16. to be fair
she said that a long time ago.
Although I really saw it as a KEY to why I do NOT support her. She jumped right in there - to fight other Democrats, on behalf of people who make more than $98,000 a year.
<<<gets the impression Skippy doesn't care much for the former First Lady.
He probably prefers someone along the lines of Kim Jung-un of North Korea, Skippy's haberdashery mentor.
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They will be forced to accept thunder-thighs and vote for it.
The feminazis are working feverishly to push "sexism" as the new "racism", hoping to cash in as obowow did.
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They will be forced to accept thunder-thighs and vote for it.
The feminazis are working feverishly to push "sexism" as the new "racism", hoping to cash in as obowow did.
If that happens, look for Rachel Maddow to be the next Jay Carney - sweater vest, beard, and all.
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I've noticed a lot of primitives dislike Hillary. Some of them want Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.
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How dare they question the party leadership. It's as though they have no comprehension that others know what is best for them.
But it does make it more clear as to why when liberal/progressive individuals gain power they have to line up their own supporters against the wall. Skippy is basically saying he wants libs to be in power, but he wants to be exempt for having to accept their leadership.
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.....Skippy is basically saying he wants libs to be in power, but he wants to be exempt for having to accept their leadership.....
You know, the more I read the haberdash-challenged Skippy, the more disappointed I get.
One has to be careful, really careful, about holding primitives to too high of a standard, but Skippy's no moron; he's after all a graduate of one of the finest and most-exclusive engineering colleges in America, and got that on a full-ride scholarship too.
The guy's got some brains, but apparently he chooses to not use them.
And then he hangs with real sleazers of primitives--the hypochondrial mopinko primitive, the cliffordu primitive, &c., &c., &c. One can't choose one's relatives, but one can choose one's friends, and it looks to me as if Skippy chose poorly.
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The world's smartest woman in history should know that public employee union members DO NOT pay FICA or medicare taxes because they are on special pension programs.