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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: formerlurker on January 05, 2014, 06:41:56 AM
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Sat Jan 4, 2014, 11:59 PM
Star Member Nye Bevan (13,899 posts)
Sat Jan 4, 2014, 11:59 PM
Star Member Nye Bevan (13,899 posts)
Is it productive to repeatedly remind white people of how privileged they are?
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Yes. White people should be reminded of how privileged they are on a regular basis. Such constant reminders will surely help to end racism.
20 (41%)
No. It's more productive to focus on specific issues such as racial inequality in the justice system, voting rights, and employer discrimination, that we can all agree need to be addressed in the fight against racism.
29 (59%)
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Yes. White people should be reminded of how privileged they are on a regular basis. Such constant reminders will surely help to end racism.
20 (41%)
No. It's more productive to focus on specific issues such as racial inequality in the justice system, voting rights, and employer discrimination, that we can all agree need to be addressed in the fight against racism.
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Response to morningfog (Reply #2)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:15 AM
Star Member Nye Bevan (13,899 posts)
3. Me personally, no.
Last edited Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:27 AM - Edit history (4)
But the many "whites are so privileged" threads invariably seem to degenerate into bickering and point-scoring, as opposed to achieving anything productive in the fight against racism. So what's the point? If someone wanted to reduce the rate of crime committed by blacks, would it be productive for them to constantly post FBI racial crime statistics, with comments like "as long as blacks commit more murders than whites, attention must be called to it", or would it simply annoy black people without achieving anything?
4. How is white privilege is akin to "black crime?"
What exactly is "black crime" anyway?
Response to morningfog (Reply #4)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:28 AM
Star Member Nye Bevan (13,899 posts)
6. Edited to clarify. Sorry I confused you (nt)
Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #6)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:47 AM
morningfog (6,661 posts)
17. You didn't confuse me.
I know exactly where you are coming from.
If someone (a white person) talked about "black crime" rates, or "the rate of crime committed by blacks" as a problem, then they would be very much in need of a reminder on white privilege. That would be the epitome of someone blinded by their white privilege.
Response to morningfog (Reply #17)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:07 AM
bettyellen (22,270 posts)
27. yeah, I am all too familiar with this bullshit too. what an incredible leap to make. revolting...
and sad to see here.
Response to morningfog (Reply #17)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:10 AM
Star Member Nye Bevan (13,899 posts)
29. So this is OK for President Obama to say, but not Joe Biden?
"We all know young African-American men disproportionately have involvement in criminal activities and violence for a lot of reasons," the president told Leno. "And that's no excuse, but what we also believe in is people, everybody, should be treated fairly and the system should work for everyone. And so what I'm trying to do is just make sure that we have a conversation and that were all asking ourselves, Are there some things we can do to foster better understanding? And to make sure we don't have laws in place that encourage the kind of violent encounter that we saw there that resulted in tragedy."
http://touch.orlandosentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-76938833/
Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #29)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:15 AM
morningfog (6,661 posts)
32. "Are there some things we can do to foster better understanding?" Yes, like discussing
white privilege.
I think it would be great for Joe Biden to make such comments as long as he isn't talking about "black crime" especially in the context of complaining of his white privilege being discussed
Response to morningfog (Reply #32)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:18 AM
Star Member Nye Bevan (13,899 posts)
34. I do note that President Obama's approach was not to lecture whites about their "privilege" (nt)
Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #34)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:19 AM
morningfog (6,661 posts)
36. So now privilege goes in quotes? At least we are getting somewhere.
Are you suggesting white privilege doesn't exist?
Look at the misfits trying to claim the role of who is more racist.
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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #9)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 12:34 AM
snooper2 (18,985 posts)
11. two years ago Skinner responded to me advising
They have about 5-10K unique posters a day FYI
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Also, I was talking about the whole intertubes--- math works
I don't even think Skinner has 10K posts per day, nevermind posters.
"unique" is a kind way of putting it Skinner.
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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #44)
Sun Jan 5, 2014, 01:42 AM
Star Member DevonRex (22,349 posts)
49. **** THIS BULLSHIT. Whites NOT BEING STOPPED AND FRISKED
IN THE SAME PERCENTAGES AS AFRICAN AMERICANS IS PRIVILEGE. VOTING WITHOUT HASSLE AND KNOWING YOUR VOTE WILL COUNT AS ONE VOTE IS PRIVILEGE.
DO NOT PRETEND THEY ARE SEPARATE ISSUES. DO NOT ****ING DO THAT.
It's really not privilege dear DevonRex (aka tough guy). Where are the folks being stopped and frisked? That is your first and most likely top consideration as to why the individual is being frisked. There are more, but why bother when you are so married to white privilege.
As for voting, well you aren't listed as registered to vote at the voting precinct? going to have a problem. Every time. No matter what color you are.
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I look at obeyme every day, and remind myself just how privileged I am. I just know I can get by with ignoring the law to a larger degree than he does because, I'm white.
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White 'privilege'? :lmao: None of them have ever been to poor rural neighborhoods apparently; they also come from an assumptive position that no white person has ever worked to get where they are or been disadvantaged in some way during the process(perhaps because of their physical appearance(too heavy/skinny), acne, awkward, etc). From my many years on this earth what I have seen mostly are people disadvantaged mostly by their PARENTS or the relative/guardian caring for them that defers to their own selfish interests rather then putting their efforts into raising a decent, educated human being and thus continue the cycle of uselessness and hopelessness. That's a cultural problem, not a racial problem.
Curious too, if this is their position, why don't they yell at someone like LFR when she's down on her luck(purposely) and scream "Shut up, you still have your white privilege"? Or one of the long time primitives who couldn't pay his and his boyfriend's utilities? Why not march right down to that utility company and DEMAND your white privilege forgive your bill!!!! :rofl:
They really don't think this thru. They never do.
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Look at the misfits trying to claim the role of who is more racist.
It's very productive when the democrat party shills proclaim their idiocy and piss off normal voters enough that they stop voting for democrat lunacy.
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My son, with his military background and his Bachelor's degree, applied for a number of Federal positions. His first interviewer looked at his record and told him he'd get a great job...if ONLY he were not a white male. He did eventually, with much persistance, get a Federal job, but even then he got to watch several people "fast tracked." Every one was a black female.
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My son, with his military background and his Bachelor's degree, applied for a number of Federal positions. His first interviewer looked at his record and told him he'd get a great job...if ONLY he were not a white male. He did eventually, with much persistance, get a Federal job, but even then he got to watch several people "fast tracked." Every one was a black female.
My son worked his butt of in school and graduated with honors and in the top 1% academically. We tried to find some kind of scholarship he might apply for. Nope, nada. We learned he was just plain vanilla and didn't qualify.
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My son worked his butt of in school and graduated with honors and in the top 1% academically. We tried to find some kind of scholarship he might apply for. Nope, nada. We learned he was just plain vanilla and didn't qualify.
If only he were a brown "unpapered" individual...especially of the other sex. Or any other sex... :o
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My privileged white ass came home either tired, dirty and sweaty or tired, cold and numb from the cold for 40 years ....how's that privileged?
I would have felt a lot more privileged, if I were not working, getting foodstamps, a welfare check, free healthcare, staying in free housing and getting a subsidized free ride because of my skin color and democrat voting record.
Used to hate to have problems with the IRS....all you got to talk to were black women and then your problems got worse instead of solved. I guess they were trying to keep the money coming in so the bros and sistahs could keep riding the gravy train.
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Ladies and gentlemen welcome to Obama's post racial America. Great ain't it.
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morningfog (6,661 posts)
I know exactly where you are coming from.
If someone (a white person) talked about "black crime" rates, or "the rate of crime committed by blacks" as a problem, then they would be very much in need of a reminder on white privilege. That would be the epitome of someone blinded by their white privilege.
So, black people commit crime because they're black, and white people don't understand it, and shouldn't point it out, because they're white, and privileged to be white. Do I have that about right, DUmbass?
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So, black people commit crime because they're black, and white people don't understand it, and shouldn't point it out, because they're white, and privileged to be white. Do I have that about right, DUmbass?
Yes. Along with your "black" race card you get a "Get out of jail free" card good for 40 different crimes. 41 crimes and you get free hotel accommodations with free meals, in room TV, free use of weight room/gym and basketball court.
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As far as black crime, the MSM does their damnedest to make sure it stays under wraps. Like a politician in trouble with no mention of the party you know it is a democrat. When there is a murder without saying the person(s) are white or white-hispanic, you know it is a black. As far as I can see there is black privilege in the new USSA.
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So, black people commit crime because they're black, and white people don't understand it, and shouldn't point it out, because they're white, and privileged to be white. Do I have that about right, DUmbass?
If that's the case then dummies and blacks shouldn't be talking about white privilege either since by the same reasoning they don't know what it's really like to live 'white'. For the dummies, you don't know true conservatism either so shut up already. :-*
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As far as black crime, the MSM does their damnedest to make sure it stays under wraps. Like a politician in trouble with no mention of the party you know it is a democrat. When there is a murder without saying the person(s) are white or white-hispanic, you know it is a black. As far as I can see there is black privilege in the new USSA.
Add to that a president, who because he is partially black, is exempted from any criticism by anyone. To me that is the height of racial privilege. Too bad their stupid asses can't see what is right before them, but the racist whites of the 1950's didn't see their own folly either as it was actually happening.
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Ahhh. Gold ole white privilege. I never really got to enjoy mine.
I still remember when I was born. The doctor checked the silver spoon that was in my mouth and then gave my mother my official white privilege certificate.
On the same day, in the same hospital, two black kids were born. Both boys. One was named John. One was named Anthony. Just as the doctor game my mother my white privilege certificate, he gave the mothers of John and Anthony race cards for each of the two boys.
John’s mother was so happy that her son got a race card. She actually put it in a piece of clear plastic and hung it around John’s neck like a pendant.
Anthony’s mother was outraged that her son got a race card. She immediately took some scissors from her purse and cut the race card into small pieces and tossed it in the trash. When she saw the doctor looking on in surprise she told him that everyone in her family had always gotten by on hard work, honesty, and integrity. None of them had ever resorted to using a race card, and her new son would not be using one either.
Flash forward to the present…
Anthony never did apply for a new race card. He did just like his mother said her family had always done and got by on hard work, honesty, and integrity. He’s always smiling and happy. He’s a licensed plumber with a huge house, a huge brand new personal truck, and a wonderful wife and kids.
John still has his race card hanging like a pendant from his neck. It’s essentially a part of him just like the always present scowl on his face. He flashes the race card every chance that he gets. He doesn’t have a job. He’s living in government housing and is on welfare.
As for me, I tried using my white privilege certificate several times when I first got old enough to work. I figured the white privilege certificate would immediately get me hired to a cushy management position, but it didn’t work out that way. Sometimes I didn’t even get hired. When i did get hired I always had to start at the bottom of the ladder, like floor mopper, and then work my way up. Since the white privilege certificate wasn’t really any help I tossed it away years ago.
I did keep the silver spoon that was in my mouth when I was born figuring I’d have it to fall back on if times got tough, but I was wrong. All of my good paying jobs began disappearing around 2008 so I’m just stuck with this part-time, low paying gig of fictionally spirit-guiding lunatics at DU, and the half-black guy that’s living in the big white house took my silver spoon. He pawned it and kept part of the money for himself and gave part of the money to John. John used the money to get him a nice, new gold chain to use for his race card pendant.
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Ahhh. Gold ole white privilege. I never really got to enjoy mine.
I still remember when I was born. The doctor checked the silver spoon that was in my mouth and then gave my mother my official white privilege certificate.
On the same day, in the same hospital, two black kids were born. Both boys. One was named John. One was named Anthony. Just as the doctor game my mother my white privilege certificate, he gave the mothers of John and Anthony race cards for each of the two boys.
John’s mother was so happy that her son got a race card. She actually put it in a piece of clear plastic and hung it around John’s neck like a pendant.
Anthony’s mother was outraged that her son got a race card. She immediately took some scissors from her purse and cut the race card into small pieces and tossed it in the trash. When she saw the doctor looking on in surprise she told him that everyone in her family had always gotten by on hard work, honesty, and integrity. None of them had ever resorted to using a race card, and her new son would not be using one either.
Flash forward to the present…
Anthony never did apply for a new race card. He did just like his mother said her family had always done and got by on hard work, honesty, and integrity. He’s always smiling and happy. He’s a licensed plumber with a huge house, a huge brand new personal truck, and a wonderful wife and kids.
John still has his race card hanging like a pendant from his neck. It’s essentially a part of him just like the always present scowl on his face. He flashes the race card every chance that he gets. He doesn’t have a job. He’s living in government housing and is on welfare.
As for me, I tried using my white privilege certificate several times when I first got old enough to work. I figured the white privilege certificate would immediately get me hired to a cushy management position, but it didn’t work out that way. Sometimes I didn’t even get hired. When i did get hired I always had to start at the bottom of the ladder, like floor mopper, and then work my way up. Since the white privilege certificate wasn’t really any help I tossed it away years ago.
I did keep the silver spoon that was in my mouth when I was born figuring I’d have it to fall back on if times got tough, but I was wrong. All of my good paying jobs began disappearing around 2008 so I’m just stuck with this part-time, low paying gig of fictionally spirit-guiding lunatics at DU, and the half-black guy that’s living in the big white house took my silver spoon. He pawned it and kept part of the money for himself and gave part of the money to John. John used the money to get him a nice, new gold chain to use for his race card pendant.
:bow: :bow: :bow: Brilliant!
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Ahhh. Gold ole white privilege. I never really got to enjoy mine.
I still remember when I was born. The doctor checked the silver spoon that was in my mouth and then gave my mother my official white privilege certificate.
On the same day, in the same hospital, two black kids were born. Both boys. One was named John. One was named Anthony. Just as the doctor game my mother my white privilege certificate, he gave the mothers of John and Anthony race cards for each of the two boys.
John’s mother was so happy that her son got a race card. She actually put it in a piece of clear plastic and hung it around John’s neck like a pendant.
Anthony’s mother was outraged that her son got a race card. She immediately took some scissors from her purse and cut the race card into small pieces and tossed it in the trash. When she saw the doctor looking on in surprise she told him that everyone in her family had always gotten by on hard work, honesty, and integrity. None of them had ever resorted to using a race card, and her new son would not be using one either.
Flash forward to the present…
Anthony never did apply for a new race card. He did just like his mother said her family had always done and got by on hard work, honesty, and integrity. He’s always smiling and happy. He’s a licensed plumber with a huge house, a huge brand new personal truck, and a wonderful wife and kids.
John still has his race card hanging like a pendant from his neck. It’s essentially a part of him just like the always present scowl on his face. He flashes the race card every chance that he gets. He doesn’t have a job. He’s living in government housing and is on welfare.
As for me, I tried using my white privilege certificate several times when I first got old enough to work. I figured the white privilege certificate would immediately get me hired to a cushy management position, but it didn’t work out that way. Sometimes I didn’t even get hired. When i did get hired I always had to start at the bottom of the ladder, like floor mopper, and then work my way up. Since the white privilege certificate wasn’t really any help I tossed it away years ago.
I did keep the silver spoon that was in my mouth when I was born figuring I’d have it to fall back on if times got tough, but I was wrong. All of my good paying jobs began disappearing around 2008 so I’m just stuck with this part-time, low paying gig of fictionally spirit-guiding lunatics at DU, and the half-black guy that’s living in the big white house took my silver spoon. He pawned it and kept part of the money for himself and gave part of the money to John. John used the money to get him a nice, new gold chain to use for his race card pendant.
H5! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Ahhh. Gold ole white privilege. I never really got to enjoy mine.
Excellent :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Ahhh. Gold ole white privilege. I never really got to enjoy mine.
I still remember when I was born. The doctor checked the silver spoon that was in my mouth and then gave my mother my official white privilege certificate.
All I got was a rusty fork up the ass.... :mad:
Good post tho..... :lmao:
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As far as black crime, the MSM does their damnedest to make sure it stays under wraps. Like a politician in trouble with no mention of the party you know it is a democrat. When there is a murder without saying the person(s) are white or white-hispanic, you know it is a black. As far as I can see there is black privilege in the new USSA.
Remember the carjacking in broad daylight in NYC the other day of the guy cleaning snow off his truck? They described the damn vehicle with more accuracy than they did the perp who they described as just a "man". Truck was red, a dodge, and late model, IIRC. Yeah, a certain omission tell me all I need to know about the perp.
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That's some fine fictional spirit-guiding!
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Actually the group that has the most privilege even over white males is very attractive/hot women and does not matter if they are white, black or Asian. Hot being the key.
These women are put on a pedestal their entire lives, offered the best jobs, advanced in job positions over more qualified ugly women (have personally seen this more than once), elected to public office over less attractive people, given better grades, have their pick of the most attractive and successful males, if divorced and even if they are at fault guys will line up to marry them and are often given a pass in life in nearly every area. Little things such as tickets. My state trooper friend told me this..hot women are let out of tickets or given a warning at a higher rate over average females-all they need to do is pout their lips and many troopers turn to putty..it's a proven fact...guys fall over themselves to please hot women. Guys who would not have a snowballs chance with a hot woman still go out of their way to help them
Of course the feminist never bring this up..Men Bad, Women Good.
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^^^excellent point!
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Add to that a president, who because he is partially black, is exempted from any criticism by anyone. To me that is the height of racial privilege.
Whites have the privilege of looking for work, holding a job and paying for the freebies that are handed on a golden platter to the minority few who are too lazy to get off their a$$ and work for a living. If they did not, America would look like any of the crime riddled African butcher hellholes where murder and crime are what pass for work. Your tax dollars at work.
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Dear DUmmies
If you want to "end racism" you have to end collectivism because racism is a collectivist ideal.
You see, the individual means nothing under the collectivist mind set, it is only the groups the individual can be subdivided into, including labor, management, male, female, straight, weird transgendered thing, and, yes race.
Racism was invented by Progressives and they saw it as a good thing, of course, they saw themselves as holding the good side of the stick and therefore they saw it as their right to end other, what they considered, inferior races through pogroms, abortion, eugenics, forced sterilization, etc.
Essentially, everything you guys stand for and support guarantees racism will be with us for a long long time.
If you want to end racism, stop being DUmmies.
Yours truly
Duke
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morningfog (6,661 posts)
If someone (a white person) talked about "black crime" rates, or "the rate of crime committed by blacks" as a problem, then they would be very much in need of a reminder on white privilege. That would be the epitome of someone blinded by their white privilege.
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How anybody can read that drivel and not get a headache, is beyond me. These deficients need to actually spend time where racism actually exists. Like any of the countries they worship so much.
White privilege. :banghead: