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Title: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 03, 2014, 02:30:21 PM
This is a poll to check the effectiveness of the DUmpster, when it comes to fulfilling its mission.  The mission of the DUmpster is to be a public service for the Good of Humanity, illuminating the real world on the lunacies and depravities of the primitives; as such, its material is free for use by any others, and credit is not needed.

But does the DUmpster, by publicizing the idiocies of the primitives, discourage them from posting on Skins's island?

I surely hope that's not the case, but I'm starting to think it's perhaps some of the case.

For example, every year after the Top DUmmies contest, many of the winners seem to either comment more rarely, or evaporate altogether.  And many of these have been primitives who provided the DUmpster with some of the finest and funniest comedy material.

And alas for the primitives, the DUmpster's the only place that pays them any attention; their own lords and masters ignore them, and probably even snicker and laugh at them in private. 

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borrowed from the #04 Top DUmmie award presented Locut0s:

Sometimes the primitives accuse decent and civilized people of "chasing" some of their fellow primitives away.

The addlepated grasswire primitive is the chief among them, with all her silly accusations about franksolich doing in the late red round one, and shoving the hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer away.

Which is nonsense.  I won't comment on the disappearance of the late red round one, but I will point out that it was hippyhubby Wild Bill who forced Mrs. Alfred Packer to leave Skins's island, because he was jealous of all the attention she was giving the cooking and baking primitives; attention he thought she should be paying him.

franksolich at no time hindered, obstacled, or prevented Mrs. Alfred Packer from hanging around with the primitives; in fact, such would've been stupid, given the rich quality of light entertainment and amusement the hippywife primitive provided the DUmpster.

There is however one exception, where franksolich actively and vigorously tried chasing a primitive away.

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I could never do anything about the subway cat, who didn't belong there either, as she was too firmly entrenched until her loving caring sisters had her put away last September, but when Dennis the Menace showed up a few years ago, since he was still new, I could.

The first time I read him, I thought, "Uh oh.  This guy doesn't belong here.  He's nuts, and he's going to embarrass himself, make himself look like a fool, and certain malicious primitives are going to take advantage of his vulnerabilities....."

It was so long ago probably nobody remembers any more, but at first, I came down really hard on him, so as to discourage him from hanging around the primitives.  I was mean, I was rough, I was tough, with him.

It did no good however, and so over time I lessened the pressure, ultimately giving up.

My motives were wholly decent and noble; he didn't belong there, and he was going to hurt himself hanging around.  He had to be driven somewhere to get competent psychiatric help.

I dunno what finally chased him away, but as I constantly reminded him, he could be one thing or another thing; he could be either sane, or a primitive.  He couldn't be both at the same time, just one thing or the other thing.

<<<a sterling example of purity of purpose, of Nobility, of watching out for one's fellow man, especially those weak and vulnerable.

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It's too bad the primitives don't watch out for each other (and so we have to instead); there's for example the CalPig primitive, in the abovementioned case, betraying herself to be a rectal aperture.

Many might recall that Dennis the Menace whined to her, in personal messages, about "being made fun of," after which she took up the matter with Skins in the ATA forum.

Lest one's forgotten, the CalPig primitive was once a registered nurse, for decades.

Being a registered nurse, she was at least somewhat familiar with mental illnesses and the best ways of dealing with them.  The old lady knew that hanging around on Skins's island was bad for Dennis the Menace, and even exacerbated his problems.

She knew this.

She was professionally obligated to explain this to him; that he shouldn't be hanging with the primitives, and should seek competent professional help instead.

But no; she totally ignored the ethics and morals of her lifelong profession, and instead maligned decent and civilized people who had Dennis the Menace's best interests at heart.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: tanstaafl on January 03, 2014, 02:38:33 PM
X YES, and it's a good thing

More and more of them are sneaking over here, in clear violation of der Skinner's das verboten!dicktact to ignore us and pretend that CC does not exist. Sneaky little anal Hamster Release Mechanism to name just one  :tongue:.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: obumazombie on January 03, 2014, 03:19:46 PM
Yes/good thing. But with one caveat.
When observing something the observation should not interfere in the process, corrupting the true nature of the subject.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: formerlurker on January 03, 2014, 03:24:47 PM
Yes and definite good thing. 

I am hopeful those who are refraining from posting have take pause to realize how batshit crazy they sound and are.

Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: jukin on January 03, 2014, 03:25:36 PM
Yes/good thing. But with one caveat.
When observing something the observation should not interfere in the process, corrupting the true nature of the subject.

I'd agree with you on that most times but when you have to expose evil it is OK in my book.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: tanstaafl on January 03, 2014, 03:34:31 PM
Hey! which one of the Dummie lurkers voted NO - its a good thing.?
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: HRMjustin on January 03, 2014, 04:48:56 PM
It sure does.
Let's see if the chronic wanker posts again.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Dori on January 03, 2014, 04:55:33 PM
Hey! which one of the Dummie lurkers voted NO - its a good thing.?

I voted for it.

I don't think the DUmmies are intimidated by the Dumpster.  Briefly maybe, but they go back to being their usual nutty selves.

Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Tucker on January 03, 2014, 05:03:53 PM
Yes, and it's a good thing.

Modern version of the ant farm I had as a kid.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Skul on January 03, 2014, 05:04:49 PM
Absolutely makes them worried and paranoid.
DUmprimitives dislike being watched.
So do pedo's and other criminal filth.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 03, 2014, 05:07:52 PM
Absolutely makes them worried and paranoid.
DUmprimitives dislike being watched.
So do pedo's and other criminal filth.

Well, what gets me is if the primitives are afraid of criticism, that shows their convictions aren't very strong.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on January 03, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
I voted "Yes, and its a good thing".

Though I do think that there is a large cross section of them, to which this does not apply.

Often, feelings of fear and intimidation are safety mechanisms, that keep one out of harms way.

I suspect that when one is that far over on the loon scale, where one makes socialists look conservative, that just existing in that state of belief is evidence of not having such safety mechanisms, or of those safety mechanisms failing.


CMD
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Duke Nukum on January 03, 2014, 05:46:53 PM
I think they were nicer on the Barbara Bush story than they would have been without the DUmpster.

Whether it is a good thing or bad thing I cannot say.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: freedumb2003b on January 03, 2014, 05:58:39 PM
Si y estan cosa bueno!
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: BattleHymn on January 03, 2014, 06:03:19 PM
Sometimes, it seems the primitives act the same way when they know they have been discovered as an up-skirt peeper does when caught.  

The up-skirt peeper will first deny any wrongdoing, but then scamper off as fast as they can.

I am afraid this is what has happened to some of the primitives.  



Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: USA4ME on January 03, 2014, 07:55:03 PM
Yes/Bad Thing.

I'd rather them ignore we're here.

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Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 04, 2014, 10:15:04 AM
Yes/Bad Thing.

I'd rather them ignore we're here.

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Agree totally.  Their 'true colors' go a bit 'matte' when they know they're being observed.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Aristotelian on January 04, 2014, 10:41:55 AM
Yes/Bad Thing.

I'd rather them ignore we're here.

Agreed. Things were much better when there was a rule against mentioning us - we're pretty much common knowledge over there now, and it's made some (by no means all) of them more reticent in their posting.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on January 04, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
No "joos"?  :-)
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 04, 2014, 12:27:42 PM
No "joos"?  :-)

Good catch . . .
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 04, 2014, 12:29:53 PM
Yes/good thing. But with one caveat.

When observing something the observation should not interfere in the process, corrupting the true nature of the subject.

Yeah; that's been discussed here before, as Margaret Mead ran into that problem decades ago.

Once subjects are aware they're being observed, they change their conduct, for any one of many reasons.

When in their natural state, it's best that primitives not know they're being watched.

The sparkling old dude, for example, was once one of the merriest, the jolliest, the funniest, the most uninhibited, of the primitives.  But once he became aware he was being observed, he tightened up like a little old lady with haemorrhoids.

Margaret Mead, who taught George Bush at Yale, couldn't solve the problem, and obviously, neither could we.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 04, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
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But no; she totally ignored the ethics and morals of her lifelong profession, and instead maligned decent and civilized people who had Dennis the Menace's best interests at heart.

Well, to be honest about it, I repeatedly urged Dennis to commit suicide.

But I was considering his best interests, in light of the hellish life his lunacy forces upon him.

His disappearance from the DUmp may be the result of taking my advice.

Dennis is another reason Skimmer needs to set up that Dead DUmmy forum.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 04, 2014, 03:21:11 PM
Dennis is another reason Skimmer needs to set up that Dead DUmmy forum.

You know, if Skins isn't going to do it, we can always do it here, but problem--a lack of means of verification.

It'd be embarrassing to declare a primitive dead, only to find out later he's still among us.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: CollectivismMustDie on January 04, 2014, 03:22:35 PM
No "joos"?  :-)



(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/LBMsXcSTi4s/hqdefault.jpg)

"Joos?!?!?!?"

 :lmao:

Sorry, couldn't resist. Great show, Deadwood.

CMD


Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Bad Dog on January 04, 2014, 03:26:17 PM
You know, if Skins isn't going to do it, we can always do it here, but problem--a lack of means of verification.

It'd be embarrassing to declare a primitive dead, only to find out later he's still among us.

To quote Nathan Bedford Forrest "The only good DUmmie is a dead DUmmie.".
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Tess Anderson on January 04, 2014, 04:29:25 PM
I think, generally speaking, it does intimidate them, but there are exceptions to the rule like Doug Bulna. He knew people here at at other sites were pulling his threads, but all that did was to make him even more defiant and then he doubled-down on stupid again.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 04, 2014, 04:37:28 PM
I think, generally speaking, it does intimidate them, but there are exceptions to the rule like Doug Bulna. He knew people here at at other sites were pulling his threads, but all that did was to make him even more defiant and then he doubled-down on stupid again.

One primitive that impresses me in his imperturbability, although that's not necessarily a good thing, is the locust primitive, "Locut0s."  That guy's nuts and all that, but has the hide of a rhinocerous; nothing fazes him.

I suppose that's why it's okay to make fun of him, because it won't hurt him anyway.

Also, to some extent, the pilgrim primitive, "HereSince1628;" he seems to handle parody well, without it exacerbating his mental deficiencies.

As for walrus-face, he won't admit it, but I'll bet he's affected.  He appears mule-headedly impervious to even the roughest criticism or mockery, but I sense it gets to him. 

And once the brain-damaged primitive admits that it gets to him, he's taken the first baby-step to learning how to become a better person.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Bad Dog on January 04, 2014, 04:47:31 PM

And once the brain-damaged primitive admits that it gets to him, he's taken the first baby-step to learning how to become a better person.

I swear, you have the patience of Jobe.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 04, 2014, 04:51:23 PM
I swear, you have the patience of Jobe.

Well, remember, my goal in life is to salvage a primitive or two.

I subscribe to the maxim of the late Lord Baring, a British colonial administrator during the 1920s: "primitives need to feel the harsh sting of the lash; a very few of them because it may civilize them, more of them, but still only a small number, because it may half-civilize them.  But the other 99.9% of them, they need to feel the lash simply because they're dirty foul depraved primitives."

I wholly subscribe to that; it's for their own good.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Tucker on January 04, 2014, 05:06:23 PM
You know, if Skins isn't going to do it, we can always do it here, but problem--a lack of means of verification.

It'd be embarrassing to declare a primitive dead, only to find out later he's still among us.

In either state of being, they make the same amount of sense.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 04, 2014, 05:49:03 PM
You know, if Skins isn't going to do it, we can always do it here, but problem--a lack of means of verification.

It'd be embarrassing to declare a primitive dead, only to find out later he's still among us.

The way they lie, how can anyone ever be absolutely certain they're dead?

As you know, a democrat's death is rarely confirmed by subsequent voting records.

There are strong internet rumors that the DUmp's dear sodomite Andy is still among the living, despite the coup d'etat having been applied, up close and personal, by a decent and civilized person.

His only obituary was in a Seattle equivalent to Crazy Miriam's blog.

The moonbats who claim to have attended his funeral are the same ones who claimed to have visited him during non-existent hospital stays.

Has anyone seen a photo of his carcass in a casket?

If he was cremated, which would have been advisable to prevent the spread of disease, was there a civilized witness?
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 04, 2014, 08:56:55 PM

Well, these I know for a fact:

Khephra's dead, because he died while on line.

the red round one's dead because I know.

grouchy old Don's dead because his daughter told us so.

Chief S itting Bull's dead because we all read his obituary.

ThomWV's dead because we all saw his obituary.

the primitive woman bothered by cold weather, the "TroubleInWinter" primitive, is dead because I know.

I'm sure there's more dead primitives--I hope to God there's lots more--but how to prove it?

That's barely enough dead primitives to set up a memorial vestibule, much less a memorial hall.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Bad Dog on January 04, 2014, 09:05:20 PM

the red round one's dead because I know.


I love it when you get all cryptic.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 04, 2014, 09:07:49 PM
I love it when you get all cryptic.

necesse est me; sometimes necessity compels me to be so.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: obumazombie on January 04, 2014, 09:09:55 PM
Coach is rewriting Schindler's list.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Bad Dog on January 04, 2014, 10:03:34 PM
Coach is rewriting Schindler's list.

Not sure about the proper spelling but, pretty sure you got it wrong.  It does start with an s but I know there is a t in there somewhere.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 05, 2014, 12:09:26 AM

I agree most of them are really most sincerely dead, especially when there is non-DUmp corroboration.

Of course, old Don's daughter could have been Don himself, but unlikely.

Even the sodomite is almost surely dead, based on coach's special skills and unimpeachable honesty, but it sure would be nice if there was some tangible proof.

But all that points to a reason for Skimmer to have a Dead DUmmy forum. Profit.

When the tributes start piling up, maybe once in a while a dishonest DUmpmonkey would be embarrassed and own up to being alive.

After admitting to still being among the living, the formerly deceased DUmmy might resume buying stars and Valentine hearts - a clear return on the effort invested in setting up the new forum.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Tucker on January 05, 2014, 04:02:01 AM
I'm pretty sure Wiley's worm food. Well, maybe not. He thought pot was better than chemo as a cure for cancer. Worms wouldn't touch him.

Anyway, his sailboat got stuck outside of Denver.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 05, 2014, 04:19:10 AM
I'm pretty sure Wiley's worm food. Well, maybe not. He thought pot was better than chemo as a cure for cancer. Worms wouldn't touch him.

Anyway, his sailboat got stuck outside of Denver.

I forgot all about the freeloading bum the wily primitive, "Wiley50."

After being evicted from his place in the mountains and forests of Tennessee, his former landlord keeping the half-finished "ark" for security for unpaid rent (probably used it to supply his wood-burning furnace), Wiley50 made it all the way to California, but then shortly thereafter died of exposure on the beach.

One of the times when he announced he was moving out there, the CalPig primitive did her usual Skippy thing, wishing him luck.

Which prompted him to remember something, and he then asked her if she'd put him up.

The CalPig primitive went away without answering.

And so I always blamed Wiley50's death on the CalPig primitive; she was in favor of his moving out there, and she had the means to put him up.  In her palatial digs, she could've put Wiley50 up in a bedroom, and his presence wouldn't've ever been noticed.  He would've been no bother.

But no.....while the CalPig primitive talks the talk, she never walks the walk.

The CalPig primitive murdered Wiley50.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 05, 2014, 12:56:03 PM
The CalPig primitive murdered Wiley50.

Maybe so, but it doesn't offset all the shitty things she's done.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 05, 2014, 01:26:42 PM
Maybe so, but it doesn't offset all the shitty things she's done.

That's a different twist; I never thought of that, but you're right.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Airwolf on January 05, 2014, 08:29:49 PM
I answered with "Yes and it's a good thing.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: miskie on January 05, 2014, 10:14:14 PM
Some of them are, but even those who aren't have modified their behavior because they are being watched. It taints the results of the study, making it a bad thing.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: landofconfusion80 on January 06, 2014, 07:40:01 AM
Some of them are, but even those who aren't have modified their behavior because they are being watched. It taints the results of the study, making it a bad thing.

to improve the study, the tactics need to evolve with what they think they know. 
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: DUmpsterDiver on January 06, 2014, 08:10:27 AM
When observing something the observation should not interfere in the process, corrupting the true nature of the subject.

Skinners Cat.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: franksolich on January 06, 2014, 08:16:16 AM
to improve the study, the tactics need to evolve with what they think they know. 

The problem is, while I've read a lot of Margaret Mead in conjunction with the primitives of Skins's island (keeping in mind that some of her observations were falsified, as she did have an agenda), and while she wrote a great deal about this problem--how primitives change their behavior after they know they're being observed--it doesn't appear that she ever came to any resolution of that problem.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: landofconfusion80 on January 06, 2014, 09:15:29 AM
The problem is, while I've read a lot of Margaret Mead in conjunction with the primitives of Skins's island (keeping in mind that some of her observations were falsified, as she did have an agenda), and while she wrote a great deal about this problem--how primitives change their behavior after they know they're being observed--it doesn't appear that she ever came to any resolution of that problem.

But there are many solutions to be found. As this is a continually changing social experiment on what could be argued a mass social disorder, I feel that it is our duty to explore the possibility of changing the observational tactics to better suit the new social balance of the island.  An instance would be observing a monkey that has mastered the use of a gun, it would make much more sense to either give it blanks or to observe from behind bulletproof glass.
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: diesel driver on January 06, 2014, 01:10:47 PM
I said "yes, good thing".

Anything that bothers DUmbassas is a good thing.   :cheersmate:
Title: Re: poll: does the DUmpster intimidate the primitives?
Post by: Mr Mannn on January 06, 2014, 01:29:37 PM
I voted "No, and its a good thing."

DUmmies don't like the light of truth shining on them, but they are too stupid to change their ways,
In their echo chamber, they quickly forget they are under scrutiny and make fools of themselves over and over.