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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mary Ann on December 29, 2013, 02:40:30 PM
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Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women?
anonymous asked:
Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women?
blackfoxx answered:
Mmm kind of did this topic on twitter this week so you if you want more you can check it out @tgirlinterruptd
But the answer is somewhere between no not necessarily but probably so. In that, a narrative of desire around trans bodies does not exist & in that absence one of degradation and shame is offered in its place. So automatically you have sexualities and accompanying desires shaped in a context of transphobia, which both excludes and pathologizes trans bodies as abhorrent.
A lot of male sexuality is also constructed around employing hierarchies of womanhood as trophies, to prove their own worth and engage in a process of gendering themselves through access to womens’ bodies. Within that framework, some hold more currency and others (transwomen) can actually subvert heteronormative male sexualities. The opinions and shared norms of sexuality among peers, performed on womens’ bodies, plays a huge part in constructing their sexuality as well. You can imagine where transwomen fall on this scale. There’s also the fact that most men dont even have enough literacy of our bodies and our lives to even know who we are and if they are attracted to us. And dont attempt to do so because of cisnormativity.
With that being said, we live in the world we live in. If a man chooses not to date a transwoman, whatever the reason, that is his choice (though one probably informed by cisnormativity.) I am however concerned with if, in not dating transwomen, he also reinforces cissexism and transphobia in his words and actions. Everything is not for everybody nor does it have to be (even though ironically transwomen seem to always get the short end of this stick hmmm.) But what are men doing to not actively continue & participate in this cycle of shame around transwomens’ bodies? What are they doing to stop putting our lives at risk? How are they discussing our bodies and lives? In choosing not to date us, are they offering up bioessentialist rhetoric and trying to delegitimize/undermine our genders?
So basically, cisnormativity heavily informs our desires. We should all work through that. If in working through that, you still don’t find yourself attracted to transwomen? Then thats fine, but what are you doing to create & not participate in a society that shames & degrades the concept of desire around transbodies?
I wont make a blanket statement and say that ANY many who doesnt date transwomen is transphobic. But I will say that we live in a transphobic and cissexist society. And that most men ARE transphobic and cissexist. And all of those things shape our desires and sexuality.
http://curvellas.tumblr.com/post/71492289830/is-it-ignorant-transphobic-for-a-straight-man-to-not
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And I would reply; why does it matter?
KC
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Simply a word mash of disjointed psychobabble to say: Everything is OK. Nothing is out of bounds. No doubt, the author of that mutli-paragraph non-sequitur considers him/herself highly intelligent.
And that most men ARE transphobic and cissexist. And all of those things shape our desires and sexuality.
Perfect example. What?
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Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women?
No.
Next question.
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I don`t want a chick that once had a dick .
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XY can never be XX, and vice versa, not matter how many parts you saw off or stitch on.
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I don`t want a chick that once had a dick .
H5 for the excellent summation.
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I don`t want a chick that once had a dick .
:cheersmate:
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And I would reply; why does it matter?
KC
Because apparently we are morally obligated to make them feel emotionally accepted.
Which further proves how useless and worthless liberals truly are.
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http://queersunited.blogspot.com/2008/08/word-of-gay-cissexism.html
oy
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I don`t want a chick that once had a dick .
Hater.
The whole phobic/phobia label is just ignorant. The left got their ass handed to them this week after throwing around that term thinking they could shout down public opinion.
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So how long is it going to be if young men who are straight will be called homophobic for not wanting to date men?
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Does this make me homophobic? I believe homosexual sex acts are perverted, unnatural and a sin in the eyes of the Lord. I do not believe people are born homosexual and believe homosexual desire stems from mental illness and/or abuse.
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Sorry but there's just no way in hell that I would date (or be seen with for that matter) a man who has mutilated themselves in the false belief that they're a woman trapped in a man's body.
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So how long is it going to be if young men who are straight will be called homophobic for not wanting to date men?
Dayum, you must be Kreskin>>> I'm a straight male who doesn't date men. Is that homophobic? http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4246760 Very long campfire, to boot.
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Dayum, you must be Kreskin>>> I'm a straight male who doesn't date men. Is that homophobic? http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4246760 Very long campfire, to boot.
Damn what a stupid thread, those people are insane.
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What if the queer who had the dickoffame surgery is actually a panther? How about that?
I think this would make a hell of an episode on DUck Dynasty.
What would those beardy boys think of a homo with a homemade coochie?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024245263
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XY can never be XX, and vice versa, not matter how many parts you saw off or stitch on.
Wouldn't these morphodykes be high maintenance with all their mutilated nonsense? If they don't keep taking their anticocktails won't they become bearded ladies with hairy chests? That would spoil a marriage I would think.
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At this point, what difference does it make ?
I'm not a big fan of the french but they did trademark "Viva Le Differance".
edit punc.
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I don`t want a chick that once had a dick .
One that was attached, anyway.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4245263
Mr Scorpio
Is it ignorant/ transphobic for a straight man to not want to date transgender women?
HappyMe
I think I would probably date a transgendered guy. One of my neighbors is in the female to male process. One of the most fearless people I know. Very dry sense of humor and smart as hell.
Arcanetrance
I am a straight man I dated a male to female transgendered individual for a year and a half it had nothing to do with sex as much as we had a really deep love for each other. But than my most recent Ex was a woman who was born a woman. The idea of you have to do certain things and act a certain way to be straight always bothered me.
Cinnabonbon
If the only reason he's not dating the woman is because she's trans then yes, that is transphobic. If he's attracted to her in all the other ways, but hates the fact that she is trans, that is a shame.
This has potential to be non-stop entertainment. One primitive already got in trouble for calling trannies "fake women". A thundering herd of DUmmies came rushing in to protest that trannies are "fake" anything.
CLASSIC...
edit to add: Arcanetrance, you claim to be straight but admit to dating a trannie... let me break it to you, you're gay.
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Duplicate. This isn't the DUmp.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93654.0.html
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Duplicate. This isn't the DUmp.
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,93654.0.html
oops :o
thanks for the merge
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This thread topic at the DUmp seems silly at first...But is actually insidious.
Make no mistake: This is what leftists would bring us to if they had their way--Thought Police.
Even thinking that you're not attracted to a transgendered person would be a punishable offense. As far fetched as it seems, I could see eventually anti-discriminatory dating laws coming into effect, where something as crazy as a transgendered person suing someone because they weren't hit on at a bar or the grocery store.
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Transphobic? really? :thatsright:
I have lots of phobias. Don't I qualify as a minority victim too?
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvpfT-NlSE[/youtube]
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Quite simply: There is no such thing as a transsexual woman. It's just a man who has mutilated himself.
There is no such thing as "transphobia" there is only the kind of nausea and disgust that comes from even contemplating such things.
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Quite simply: There is no such thing as a transsexual woman. It's just a man who has mutilated himself.
There is no such thing as "transphobia" there is only the kind of nausea and disgust that comes from even contemplating such things.
hehehehe
you nailed it
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Quite simply: There is no such thing as a transsexual woman. It's just a man who has mutilated himself.
There is no such thing as "transphobia" there is only the kind of nausea and disgust that comes from even contemplating such things.
Indeed. It makes me feel nauseous whenever I see or hear of these people. When that disgusting thing that Cher bore from her body is on the television, I can't help but think that maybe Kevorkian wasn't such a bad dude. Euthanasia doesn't seem so evil for people that are so completely messed up in the head to go around lopping off their own genitalia and then whining when normal men don't want to "do" them.
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A man claiming to be a woman because he got a homemade surgical coochie is like the Menendez brothers claiming orphan benefits.
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They can't force people to feel a certain way. I would never date one of these creatures. I find it creepy and gross and mentally ill. I don't care if they're outraged or not. Go ahead and overreach, DUmmies, then feel the backlash.
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I just did a new DUFU on this thread:
DUmmie FUnnies 12-30-13 ("The Decrying Game": Remember, remember, to date a transgender) (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3106674/posts)
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I don't find these freaks any more or less repulsive than garden-variety homos.
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I just did a new DUFU on this thread:
DUmmie FUnnies 12-30-13 ("The Decrying Game": Remember, remember, to date a transgender) (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3106674/posts)
There must be Fifty Shades of Gay, and they all want to have their say.
Lol Charles! :-)
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I don't find these freaks any more or less repulsive than garden-variety homos.
I except the garden variety homos as just a personality difference from those others I know, no problem.
I have known some gay men and woman that were pleasant and who they "did" was no business of mine.
Drag queens are a hoot, most are fun and when the night is done, go back to being men, they are like actors on a stage, for a few hours they become someone else.
These Trannies scare me, they have the delusion they are the other sex trapped in the wrong body. Now why would they, like Cher's daughter decide to have their body's chopped up to the point of no return.
Note that Chaz has still gone only half way, no dick yet and she dates woman. As long as she has a coochie, she is still a woman and sits to pee. Don't know why she does not buy a dick from her doctors and become a real man. So far she is just a lesbo with no boobs.
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When that disgusting thing that Cher bore from her body is on the television, I can't help but think that maybe Kevorkian wasn't such a bad dude.
Some people were surprised that Cher was so supportive of her daughter. What choice did she have? She either supports her daughter or has to admit that her own lifestyle created a monster out of a once cute little girl.
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Some people were surprised that Cher was so supportive of her daughter. What choice did she have? She either supports her daughter or has to admit that her own lifestyle created a monster out of a once cute little girl.
What about mothers who support their kids who have killed others, visiting day at the jail is full of mommy's that line up to visit and give support to their kiddies that grew up to become monsters.
I just love to hear the Mommy's plead that their child fell in with the wrong people when it was THEIR child that was the wrong people for others to follow.
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What about mothers who support their kids who have killed others, visiting day at the jail is full of mommy's that line up to visit and give support to their kiddies that grew up to become monsters.
I just love to hear the Mommy's plead that their child fell in with the wrong people when it was THEIR child that was the wrong people for others to follow.
Vesta, do you have children?
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The perfect DUmmy couple. A transfreak man that mutalates his johnson by loping it off coupling with Underground Panther, a natural (?) woman that wants an addadicktome.
True love would be her getting his johnson sewn on and then butt ****ing him.
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There's one of these "people" that works in a big store in my town. Had the boobs put in but for some reason keeps the 5:00 shadow. Really creepy considering the No Country for Old Men hair to top it all off. I'd seriously reconsider returning anything if he?she? is manning the counter.
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There's one of these "people" that works in a big store in my town. Had the boobs put in but for some reason keeps the 5:00 shadow. Really creepy considering the No Country for Old Men hair to top it all off. I'd seriously reconsider returning anything if he?she? is manning the counter.
I would never do that. If I did, I know I would never leave the house. At least until I got foreclosed and evicted.
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I would never do that. If I did, I know I would never leave the house. At least until I got foreclosed and evicted.
Probably little chance of that. can you imagine the horrors you'd find when you went in to foreclose? Somebody with that degree of mental illness is probably going to have a whole lot of other stuff going on. When I was an RA in college, we had to check fire alarms in each of the dorm rooms. There was a "couple" living on my floor and everyone dreaded checking that alarm... the twin beds were pushed together right below the alarm....who knew you could buy a bottle of jergens in industrial sizes?