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Title: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 26, 2008, 02:31:25 PM

outstanding article.  I only brought 5 paragraphs of the story over, and they only cover the maneuvering
he did to get his opponents disqualified with signature challenges on candidates' petitions, and we have
already discussed that here.  but he goes on to point out that his opponents keep dropping out of elections
for the strangest reasons . . . . .

oh, and he also implies that he was literally created by a couple of chicago machine politicians, and at some
point in a hypothetical obama presidency, their bill will have to be paid.  so much for not being influenced by
special interests. :whatever:

highly recommended article.

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Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud

I detest disclaimers, but for those of you who have never read one of my columns or watched my TV show, be advised: I am not a Republican or a Democrat. I am an Independent, and I attack candidates of both parties with equal zeal. And that brings me to the young hypocrite, Sen. Barack Obama.

Obama has promoted his presidential campaign as being inclusive of all people. Sort of a "No Voter Left Behind" approach. He says all of the right things, and makes all of the right promises. But underneath the touchy-feely rhetoric is a man who has risen to power on a fast track provided him by a notorious political machine, and he has stepped on anyone who got in his path along the way.

Recently, Obama stood by and allowed the DNC to steal half of Hillary's votes in Michigan and Florida. Then he endorsed a plan that awarded him 100 percent of the unaffiliated votes in Michigan. Those two actions gave Obama the nomination.

But how could a man who preaches unanimity and inclusiveness help to disenfranchise millions of voters in his own party? I didn't fully understand that myself until CNN brought to light Obama's tactics during his first legislative campaign back in 1996.

As a rookie, Obama was to face off against two well-known Democratic opponents (both African American) in the primary, one of whom was incumbent Alice Palmer.

Much More (http://www.yesweekly.com/main.asp?SectionID=49&SubSectionID=223&ArticleID=3813&TM=65519.56)
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: miskie on June 26, 2008, 06:38:37 PM
Ouchies -- Lots of good data there, I'm looking forward to see if there is any confirmation of any of this data from secondary and tertiary sources.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Chris_ on June 26, 2008, 06:51:04 PM
Ouchies -- Lots of good data there, I'm looking forward to see if there is any confirmation of any of this data from secondary and tertiary sources.

As the article indicates, I've seen bits and pieces of this on CNN and other places, so as far as corroberation goes, it's covered.  It's veracity hasn't been confirmed yet, but even when it is, it doesn't surprise me.  Boядt Osama's the mouthpiece of the most corrupt political machine outside of the old Soviet Politburo, and it would frankly surprise me more if heWAS as clean as the wind-driven snow as he claims to be, given the company he keeps.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: DixieBelle on June 26, 2008, 07:17:54 PM
Excellent find WE! I'm digesting it now....
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Jim on June 26, 2008, 07:54:40 PM
Barry a fraud ?

how can that BE ?   how can the messiah be a fraud ?
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Lord Undies on June 26, 2008, 08:01:31 PM
Barry a fraud ?

how can that BE ?   how can the messiah be a fraud ?

He can't be.  That is why I am voting for The Obama regardless.  Whatever it took to get Him in this position, in order to save our democray, was worth ever underhanded step.  I love Him. 

Amen.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Jim on June 26, 2008, 08:06:44 PM
Barry a fraud ?

how can that BE ?   how can the messiah be a fraud ?

He can't be.  That is why I am voting for The Obama regardless.  Whatever it took to get Him in this position, in order to save our democray, was worth ever underhanded step.  I love Him. 

Amen.



I wonder when he'll allow his little horns to grow back out and show his cloven hooves ?
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on June 26, 2008, 10:42:10 PM
He's gotta be the anti-Christ... or at the very least a very sneaky sonofabitch. I remember the crap about Blair Hull. EVERYBODY was on his bandwagon until the shit hit the fan when "somehow" his divorce records leaked out, and then with Jack Ryan's divorce records too, even though it was in an L.A. Court. I wonder what kind of crap Osama Obama will pull with John McCain. Think that the non-story about him supposedly having "an affair" was brought up by Obama's people as well?

Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Lacarnut on June 26, 2008, 11:22:56 PM
He's gotta be the anti-Christ... or at the very least a very sneaky sonofabitch. I remember the crap about Blair Hull. EVERYBODY was on his bandwagon until the shit hit the fan when "somehow" his divorce records leaked out, and then with Jack Ryan's divorce records too, even though it was in an L.A. Court. I wonder what kind of crap Osama Obama will pull with John McCain. Think that the non-story about him supposedly having "an affair" was brought up by Obama's people as well?



A lot of things can happen in 5 months and I am sure that the Clinton machine is digging deep and hard for dirt on the Magic Negro. The Queen may have stepped aside but she has not given up hope. If she is not offered the VP, I look for her to work behind the scenes to aid McCain. Having lost the nomination to a nobody, I think she is very bitter.

With John McCain, I don't think there will be any dirt for Hussein to dig up. On the other hand, there probably is a gold mine of dirt that reporters have not uncovered on Obama.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: formerlurker on June 27, 2008, 08:26:00 AM
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It's not too late for Democrats to embrace the truth about Obama, and release all delegates to take a floor vote at the convention. But that won't happen. True to form, Obama has already had Clinton eliminated, and his machine isn't about to let her be resurrected. Barack doesn't know how to win anything fair and square. Why should he start now?

Obama did not eliminate Clinton, she did that herself in hiring incompetent campaign staff.   Obama is small time politics and is riding a waive of anyone-but-a-republican tide in his party.   Moderates aren't stupid, and his utterances hasn't resonated with them yet. 

Ending the war in Iraq?   let it go pal, you lost everyone accept your base when you go down that path.    You need to concentrate on how you will keep us safe.   A platform of making nice with the world and the bringing credibility back didn't work out so much for POS Kerry, so you think he would have learned that lesson.    Edge:  McCain in a landslide.   Democrats can't hold a candle to Republicans on national defense issues.   McCain will eat him for lunch on a debate on this.   

Price at the gas pumps?   while I will admit this is a gamble because it could play into Republican hands weeks before the election quite nicely,  this is the topic everyone is upset about.   E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E.    Both candidates need to start selling solutions hard soon.  Why Barrack is not seizing on this oil companies are bad, Republicans are in bed with oil companies, blah blah blah, to solicit some real money donations I will never know.     Edge -- push.     This could end badly for both of them, but cowardize of broaching the topic hard is not anything I appreciate or will let pass.    Pick a position and sell it.   McCain needs to hype it up to the hilt, then have GWB swoop in with an executive order for drilling immediately a month before the election to bring it home.   We are at war, this is a matter of national security.    Just freakin do it. 

Economy?   Blah blah and blah, but facts don't lie.   Start presenting them McCain, and don't allow Barrack to twist this conversation.   Outside of flowerly language, Obama is a man of little to no substance.   This issue can be exploited to its fullest if McCain does his homework (read he needs top notch consultants for this area).   Edge:  Obama, as the Democrats always seem to pull of the "I'm-for-the-middle-class" party, when in reality they are no such thing. 

Education?   NCLB Act has kicked it up in this country with assessments showing a move in the right directions.   You may hear the consistent whining of the powerful teacher's union (who own the Democrats), but facts is facts people.   Present them McCain with state results and you can take this home.    We need more accountability - the states have their hands out for money?  then they better be damn accountable for it.    Edge:  McCain if he doesn't freakin blow it with feel good nonsense that are more fantasy than reality. 

Foreign policy?  Come on, Obama said he would invade Pakistan.   Can the man be taken seriously at all?  I look forward to the debate on this very topic. Edge:  McCain in a landslide. 

Obama's closet could be filled to the rim with skeletons, but it is his lack of substance that can bury him.   McCain needs a strong VP, consultants and fine tune his debate skills.  He does that and he walks off with an easy win in November. 



Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: DixieBelle on June 27, 2008, 09:04:57 AM
^totally agree. I'm hoping that while the Ooooobama circus is in town, McCain and Co. are hunkering down and doing their homework.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: formerlurker on June 27, 2008, 03:05:11 PM
No Brat Left Not Taught To Take A Test - it's a joke.
This policy, one of the worst ever signed by GWB, is going to end up in the dumbest generation of Americans ever.

I disagree.    The implementation of MCAS in my state alone has brought the standards of education up significantly.   I must admit that I am extremely biased to this as NCLB provides "highly qualified" mandates of personnel, and it requires Educators to teach to all children, to include special needs children, as they will be tested/assessed also.   

It is a great premise that is working, but certainly needs work.   Worst ever policy -- not even close. 

Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: USA4ME on June 27, 2008, 03:14:30 PM
Good article.

Of course he's a fraud and a puppet.  The question is who's the master pulling his strings?

He's part of the Chicago political machine.  Know what they want and that'll provide insight as to how and make money off of them.  One thing for sure, the Chicago Machine is in this for the money, but they can't do nationwide what they can do in Cook Co. and surrounding areas.  They probably think they can, or can at least do enough to rake in some additional cash.  But understanding them and how they do business will enable you to take advantage should Hussein get in.  If anyone's been snookering libs for decades, it's the Chicago Machine.  No reason they should have all the fun.

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Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Chris_ on June 27, 2008, 03:19:35 PM
OK< I don't like hussein and the idea he could become POTUS scares the crap out of me.  But my first allegiance is to the truth.

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Recently, Obama stood by and allowed the DNC to steal half of Hillary's votes in Michigan and Florida. Then he endorsed a plan that awarded him 100 percent of the unaffiliated votes in Michigan. Those two actions gave Obama the nomination.

But how could a man who preaches unanimity and inclusiveness help to disenfranchise millions of voters in his own party?

Nothing was stolen. No one was "disenfranchised."  MI and FL were TOLD what would happen if they moved their primary.  They did it anyway in a game of political chicken.  And sort of lost.  hussein didn't campaign because he was told they were not in play.

This is really important because if people don't let the parties establish their rules and adhere to them then we might as well just elect the nominees for the next election during the General Election.

But the rest of the article about his past is spot on.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: DixieBelle on June 27, 2008, 03:30:32 PM
No Brat Left Not Taught To Take A Test - it's a joke.
This policy, one of the worst ever signed by GWB, is going to end up in the dumbest generation of Americans ever.

I disagree.    The implementation of MCAS in my state alone has brought the standards of education up significantly.   I must admit that I am extremely biased to this as NCLB provides "highly qualified" mandates of personnel, and it requires Educators to teach to all children, to include special needs children, as they will be tested/assessed also.  

It is a great premise that is working, but certainly needs work.   Worst ever policy -- not even close. 


From your perspective that may be true. It certainly has it's downsides. Worst ever policy? Perhaps not. But it certainly deserves to be on the list. I don't have quite the positive view of it as you do and that's based on my personal experience. Great premise? Yes. Working? For some. Needs more work? Absolutely.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 27, 2008, 03:32:23 PM
OK< I don't like hussein and the idea he could become POTUS scares the crap out of me.  But my first allegiance is to the truth.

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Recently, Obama stood by and allowed the DNC to steal half of Hillary's votes in Michigan and Florida. Then he endorsed a plan that awarded him 100 percent of the unaffiliated votes in Michigan. Those two actions gave Obama the nomination.

But how could a man who preaches unanimity and inclusiveness help to disenfranchise millions of voters in his own party?

Nothing was stolen. No one was "disenfranchised."  MI and FL were TOLD what would happen if they moved their primary.  They did it anyway in a game of political chicken.  And sort of lost.  hussein didn't campaign because he was told they were not in play.

This is really important because if people don't let the parties establish their rules and adhere to them then we might as well just elect the nominees for the next election during the General Election.

But the rest of the article about his past is spot on.

 :whatever:

we have had this discussion.  you choose the primacy of the DNC over the legitimate activity of the FL and MI
legislatures doing their rightful functions of scheduling their primary elections.  I think it FL and MI got screwed. 
if you can tell me where the DNC got their moral authority to order the democratically elected representatives
of FL and MI to perform to their precise, whimsical demands, then point it out.

the point here is the voters of FL and MI.  not the party, certainly not the rules, and not the flat fact of the matter
that the only reason the DNC (and RNC, for that matter) want to control to timing and schedule of primary
elections is because they want, to some extent, control who the nominee is.

the voters of FL and MI were disenfranchised.  plain and simple.  and no amount of sophistry can change that.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 27, 2008, 03:44:31 PM
but it's friday.  I don't want to have the argument with you that I know is coming.  I know
you too well. :tongue:

it's been a loooong week.  I am mentally wrung out, and I plan on giving my brain a rest tonight.
and those brain cells that don't cooperate by resting properly, I plan on killing with alcohol. :-)

it's a cool discussion to have, though.  can we pencil this in for tuesday? :p

Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Chris_ on June 27, 2008, 03:44:50 PM
OK< I don't like hussein and the idea he could become POTUS scares the crap out of me.  But my first allegiance is to the truth.

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Recently, Obama stood by and allowed the DNC to steal half of Hillary's votes in Michigan and Florida. Then he endorsed a plan that awarded him 100 percent of the unaffiliated votes in Michigan. Those two actions gave Obama the nomination.

But how could a man who preaches unanimity and inclusiveness help to disenfranchise millions of voters in his own party?

Nothing was stolen. No one was "disenfranchised."  MI and FL were TOLD what would happen if they moved their primary.  They did it anyway in a game of political chicken.  And sort of lost.  hussein didn't campaign because he was told they were not in play.

This is really important because if people don't let the parties establish their rules and adhere to them then we might as well just elect the nominees for the next election during the General Election.

But the rest of the article about his past is spot on.

 :whatever:

we have had this discussion.  you choose the primacy of the DNC over the legitimate activity of the FL and MI
legislatures doing their rightful functions of scheduling their primary elections.  I think it FL and MI got screwed. 
if you can tell me where the DNC got their moral authority to order the democratically elected representatives
of FL and MI to perform to their precise, whimsical demands, then point it out.

the point here is the voters of FL and MI.  not the party, certainly not the rules, and not the flat fact of the matter
that the only reason the DNC (and RNC, for that matter) want to control to timing and schedule of primary
elections is because they want, to some extent, control who the nominee is.

the voters of FL and MI were disenfranchised.  plain and simple.  and no amount of sophistry can change that.


Their party, their rules.  If you and I et together and form a political party (The "FD2003 Rules!" Party) and we agree we will have our primary next Thursday and a small group of my vast fan base say "we want to vote on Tuesday" we certainly have the right to exclude those votes.

The USC is silent on political parties.  Of course the parties want to control their parties.  If you don't like the rules, start your own or join another one.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Chris_ on June 27, 2008, 03:45:34 PM

but it's friday.  I don't want to have the argument with you that I know is coming.  I know
you too well. :tongue:

it's been a loooong week.  I am mentally wrung out, and I plan on giving my brain a rest.
and those brain cells that don't cooperate by resting properly, I plan on killing with alcohol. :-)

it's a cool discussion to have, though.  can we pencil this in for tuesday? :p



Just saw this -- OK, next week we'll pick up, starting with my post above.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 27, 2008, 03:47:08 PM

but it's friday.  I don't want to have the argument with you that I know is coming.  I know
you too well. :tongue:

it's been a loooong week.  I am mentally wrung out, and I plan on giving my brain a rest.
and those brain cells that don't cooperate by resting properly, I plan on killing with alcohol. :-)

it's a cool discussion to have, though.  can we pencil this in for tuesday? :p



Just saw this -- OK, next week we'll pick up, starting with my post above.

gracias.   :-)

this might be the only argument to ever be postponed on account of beer. :-)
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Zeus on June 27, 2008, 10:59:55 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmTy-f8KyrU[/youtube]
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Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on June 28, 2008, 09:57:19 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmTy-f8KyrU[/youtube]
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Who is that doing "the voice" of the cat? That's funny.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Lacarnut on June 28, 2008, 10:08:28 PM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmTy-f8KyrU[/youtube]
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That is a Kool Kat :lmao: :bow: :rotf:
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Rebel on June 28, 2008, 10:36:51 PM
 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 28, 2008, 10:52:43 PM

your sig pic has been nailed by imagebucket, btw.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Rebel on June 28, 2008, 11:03:38 PM

your sig pic has been nailed by imagebucket, btw.

Mine? asdf said the same thing, but I still see it. Guess it's cached. I'm changing it to my own photobucket account.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 28, 2008, 11:12:01 PM

your sig pic has been nailed by imagebucket, btw.

Mine? asdf said the same thing, but I still see it. Guess it's cached. I'm changing it to my own photobucket account.

I see it now.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Rebel on June 28, 2008, 11:13:27 PM

your sig pic has been nailed by imagebucket, btw.

Mine? asdf said the same thing, but I still see it. Guess it's cached. I'm changing it to my own photobucket account.

I see it now.

Gotta have dead Che.  :-)
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Chris_ on June 29, 2008, 11:17:38 AM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmTy-f8KyrU[/youtube]
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Who is that doing "the voice" of the cat? That's funny.

That voice is of a black preacher. I can't recall his name but he is the polar opposite of J. Wright and just as batty.
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Willow on June 29, 2008, 11:35:07 AM
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmTy-f8KyrU[/youtube]
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Who is that doing "the voice" of the cat? That's funny.

That voice is of a black preacher. I can't recall his name but he is the polar opposite of J. Wright and just as batty.



yep! here he is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfZqMkdpYi0
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Willow on June 29, 2008, 11:36:34 AM
btw what is a "Mack Daddy? :confused:
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Peter3_1 on June 29, 2008, 02:22:28 PM
Yeah, what's a Mack Daddy?
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Chris_ on June 29, 2008, 02:27:33 PM
Here's the Urban Dictionary entry... :rofl:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mack+daddy

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7.  Mack Daddy    24 up, 38 down   
 
1. The boss, head honcho.
2. Pimp

1. Steve Ballmer is now the Mack Daddy of Microsoft.
2. Steve Ballmer is now the Mack Daddy of Microsoft's shitty products
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: Zeus on June 30, 2008, 08:55:59 AM
Yeah, what's a Mack Daddy?

(http://www.aolcdn.com/ch_bv/bernie-mac-newswire-335a032307.jpg)
Title: Re: Unfortunately, Barack Obama is a fraud
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 30, 2008, 10:27:45 AM
Good article.

Of course he's a fraud and a puppet.  The question is who's the master pulling his strings?

He's part of the Chicago political machine.  Know what they want and that'll provide insight as to how and make money off of them.  One thing for sure, the Chicago Machine is in this for the money, but they can't do nationwide what they can do in Cook Co. and surrounding areas.  They probably think they can, or can at least do enough to rake in some additional cash.  But understanding them and how they do business will enable you to take advantage should Hussein get in.  If anyone's been snookering libs for decades, it's the Chicago Machine.  No reason they should have all the fun.

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If I had to guess, I'd say that it's the Kennedy wing of the Democrat Party fighting the Clinton wing.