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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Skul on December 21, 2013, 08:19:36 PM

Title: Christmas, here we go
Post by: Skul on December 21, 2013, 08:19:36 PM


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024210892
Long and tedious post follows.
Notice how self-righteous this little man is.
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Sat Dec 21, 2013, 06:46 PM
BarackTheVote (597 posts)

I will not be going to the Christmas celebration on my dad's side of the family this year.

   
Both of my grandparents on my dad's side of the family passed away this year, within a month of one another. I posted something about the Duck Dynasty guy on my Facebook wall (repost below), and all hell broke loose. The worst offenders were my cousins on my dad's side, who not only attacked what I was saying but went on to attack a friend of mine whom they've never met, who I know is going through a lot of shit right now. I hate censoring people, but I cannot condone that sort of harassment, so I deleted all of the responses just to be fair. I'm so sick in my heart right now.

Here's the original post:


Congratulations, Phil Robertson, you have ruined Christmas. Your ignorant comments have brought out the worst in people just days before a Holiday dedicated to love and fellowship, family and friends, you have set off an ugly powderkeg that distorts relationships and sets us against each other.

Christ was challenging, Christ was offensive, not because He attacked people but because He loved so, so much. He embraced the "cursed," the lepers, the woman afflicted with bleeding, the lame, the blind... the people whose lives were terrible, who were avoided and derided because the common thought was that they or their ancestors had done something wrong and God was punishing them. He treated the despised Samaritans with respect, even elevating them and forever acquainting them with the phrase "Good" because good isn't qualified by being a part of some race or religion, but it is measured in how you treat your fellow man!

He was offensive because in a time when so many wanted a general to lead them in a bloodbath against the Romans, He said to turn the other cheek and embrace peace. He was offensive because He said that He would give us his very Flesh and Blood to eat and drink because he loved us so much that he was willing to give every part of himself for us, He loved us so much that He wanted to be a part of us and us a part of Him!

This is the Christ we celebrate at Christmas, the coming of someone who taught us the true meaning of love!

I'm not asking you to shut up and not proclaim the Gospel, but you're not only hiding the Gospel under a bushel basket, you're hiding it behind a Roman tortoise formation bristling with spears of hatred and disunity. You are not approachable, you are not defending the Gospel, you are turning people away! So many good gay people have been turned back from Christ because of this hateful rhetoric! So many have been turned away from the loving arms of Christ by you self-proclaimed defenders of Christianity! All anyone wants, deep down, past the callous of the harm and hurt afflicted on them--all they want is to fall into the arms of Christ and be loved as only He can love!

This is the Man we are going to celebrate in a mere four days, the Man who taught us love is unconditional even to the point of sacrificing everything for the beloved. God, Who laid down his life, Who the Angels worship in perpetual adoration, who must have wept with a more profound agony that any human being is capable of as their Lord suffered humiliation, pain, torture, death, out of NOTHING BUT LOVE. What a humble, beautiful Man!

The only people Christ ever condemned were those who turned their backs on their fellow man, who self-righteously used their religion as an excuse to make others feel unworthy! He called them a den of vipers! So congratulations, Phil Robertson, you have sown division, you have set us against ourselves, you have perverted the Gospel, . I call you out, you viper!

And to all my so-called Christian relatives, I challenge you, if there is someone in your life that you have turned away from because you think they are in some way "unclean" who you have turned your back on because they don't fit your definition of righteousness... go up to them, embrace them, and without qualification, without asking for anything in return, without judgement--embrace them and tell tham as Christ would: "I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I LOVE YOU!"


It's kind of funny... the very thing I was trying to bring to light, that this controversy is tearing us apart at Christmas, is exactly what happened in my comments... I don't know, maybe I self-fulfilled this prophesy, but I'm sick of it and I had to say something. Listen, I know a lot of you here have been hurt by Christians and the Church before and maybe don't feel a lot of sympathy for my plight right now, and probably vehimently disagree with some of what I say above, but I'm just so sad right now, and I'd appreciate it if things stay positive here as they didn't on my Facebook well.

I just really needed to vent. Thanks... 
Your relatives will no doubt be thankful for your absence.

Look who pops up with the first comment.
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Response to BarackTheVote (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2013, 06:51 PM

Star Member CaliforniaPeggy (107,153 posts)

1. My dear BarackTheVote...
 
I just want to say how much I respect you for writing and posting this. 

Boo/hiss to the naysayers!

 for you and your goodness...
Good move my dear backbuttvote.  :lmao:
Additional comments are so full of shit, that I'm not bothering.
Title: Re: Christmas, here we go
Post by: Chris_ on December 21, 2013, 08:22:41 PM
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Title: Re: Christmas, here we go
Post by: BattleHymn on December 21, 2013, 08:24:50 PM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/kayaktn/smileys/tldr_zpsf3dc1eee.jpg)

That almost needs to be a smiley here, under :aintreading: 
Title: Re: Christmas, here we go
Post by: Maxiest on December 21, 2013, 08:43:30 PM
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“And He answered and said to them, ‘Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning “made them male and female,” and said, “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh”?’”

Matthew 19:4

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“Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.”


Jude 1:7-8

Answer me this DUmmies what is Sodom and Gomorrah and why was Jesus speaking of them in this way?  Let me help you out.


Genesis 19: 4-7

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4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." 6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
Title: Re: Christmas, here we go
Post by: thundley4 on December 21, 2013, 08:46:40 PM
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who not only attacked what I was saying but went on to attack a friend of mine whom they've never met, who I know is going through a lot of shit right now.

So your friend that has a lot of problems, (mostly mental is my guess), finds the time to get into religious/political arguments on Facebook, but like a good little queen, you felt the need to stick up for him?
Title: Re: Christmas, here we go
Post by: Big Dog on December 21, 2013, 08:51:20 PM
The overwrought DUmmy wants a Jesus who will smile as the DUmmy does whatever he wants. He wants a Jesus who didn't say, "Go and sin no more".

He wants a rainbow Jesus.
 
Title: Re: Chrismas, here we go
Post by: Skul on December 21, 2013, 09:00:27 PM
Matthew 19:4
 

Jude 1:7-8

Answer me this DUmmies what is Sodom and Gomorrah and why was Jesus speaking of them in this way?  Let me help you out.


Genesis 19: 4-7

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The only people Christ ever condemned were those who turned their backs on their fellow man, who self-righteously used their religion as an excuse to make others feel unworthy! He called them a den of vipers! So congratulations, Phil Robertson, you have sown division, you have set us against ourselves, you have perverted the Gospel, . I call you out, you viper!
DUmpmonkey, as you can see, It Is Written. Your false equivalence is destroyed.

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And to all my so-called Christian relatives, I challenge you, if there is someone in your life that you have turned away from because you think they are in some way "unclean" who you have turned your back on because they don't fit your definition of righteousness... go up to them, embrace them, and without qualification, without asking for anything in return, without judgement--embrace them and tell tham as Christ would: "I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I LOVE YOU!"
This is where you screwed up, DUmpsquat.
Forgiveness is one of the main tenants of Christianity.  :loser:
Title: Re: Christmas, here we go
Post by: obumazombie on December 22, 2013, 01:02:56 AM
I hope OPs aren't quoting their own moles. I would like to think they don't need instigating...much.
Title: Re: Christmas, here we go
Post by: Bad Dog on December 22, 2013, 01:12:06 AM
I hope OPs aren't quoting their own moles. I would like to think they don't need instigating...much.

The seriousness of the charge demands a full investigation.  I see a real scandal brewing here not like those fake scandals pushed by FOX.
Title: Re: Christmas, here we go
Post by: obumazombie on December 22, 2013, 01:15:49 AM
The seriousness of the charge demands a full investigation.  I see a real scandal brewing here not like those fake scandals pushed by FOX.
Okay, now we have something here !