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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: MoshMasterD on December 19, 2013, 04:09:48 PM
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There is no point in posting links and quotes because of the ease in finding them. But I would like to address KEY FACTS, not opinions, about the Robertson "controversy".
1. Despite the fact the DUches continuous notions that he said it on A&E's time, COMPLETELY FALSE! He made those statements in an interview he did on his own time. A&E, nor Gurney Productions, had any responsibility in the booking of the interview Robertson gave to GQ. Thus, in no way A&E was a platform for comments he made to the magazine. Which brings about #2...
2. Reality stars and media stars are 2 different things. One posted the "fact" about Martin Bashir's and Alec Baldwin's ordeals and that people who support Robertson's free expression are the one who are against it. First, Bashir's did INDEED used MSNBC as a platform when talking about shitting in Sarah Palin's mouth, and as for Baldwin, he thought he can get away with homosexual name calling. He is well known for rage outbursts, even called his then 8 year old daughter a fat pig, and he found out that being a news personality is a whole lot different than a entertainment celeb. Don't even get me started on Dixie Chicks because the ordinary american people stifled them, not the government who are legally bound to make no law against free speech.
3. DUchebags, I hate to say this but Phil Robertson is WINNING this war. To steal a quote from one of your heroes, George Bernard Shaw, "The secret to success is to offend the greatest number of people." Glen Beck was successful. His ratings during his FNC reign match that of O'Reily, and has even on many occasions surpassed Oprah's ratings to the very end. Rush Limbaugh is still the king of talk, no matter how much shit you throw at him, or how many sponsors he loses. But you won't give up. Probably the only way you can ever have hope to win is if you assassinate these guys, which you are too big a pussies to try.
Keep feeding the fire, you lose either way!
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One of the haters big things is that Phil Robertson compared faggots to pedophiles.
I respectively give NAMBLA to prove Mr. Robertson's point. Although i don't think he meant what the DUchebag leftists are implying. However, this irrefutable evidence.
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From what I understand, all he did was question why poofters like the rear end of some dude better than the north side of a female taint.
No reason for anyone to get all twittered up over that observation.
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Consumed by false outrage.
Their mentality is exposed when they attempt to equate Phil's comment to those by the PMSNBC DUoooshe Bashir.
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Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:42 PM
riqster (6,158 posts)
Phil Robertson’s First Amendment rights have not, repeat NOT been violated.
Last edited Thu Dec 19, 2013, 04:03 PM - Edit history (2)
http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/phil-robertsons-first-amendment-rights-have-not-repeat-not-been-violated/
Snips:
"The Government has said f***-all about Duck Boy’s anti-gay, anti-black, anti-all-kinds-of-people rants. The Government does not give a single turd from a constipated field mouse’s ass about what Phil said. The Government has done nothing at all.
No, it is a private business that has opened a can of HR Whoop-Ass on the fake old fart. It is the free market in action – A&E sees a potential threat to profitability in Robertson’s idiot statements, and is seeking to retain those profits by mitigating risk. A standard, legal, ethical, and smart business move.
It is not the eeeeevil Obaminator and his Zombie UN Free Speechbots who have told a moronic hunk of trash with cash to shut his face. It is that most beloved of all Right-Wing Institutions who have told him to STFU: an employer. "
What this DUchebag fails to mention is Phil does NOT work for A&E. He works for Gurney productions. A&E is their distributor and if that is the case, than A&E is in the wrong to control content when it is not theirs to control.
Sorry for the change, this was brought to my attention.
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LINKO (http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10024199977)
What this DUchebag fails to mention is all reality stars have one thing in common, it is called a contract. And usually 99% of the time of signing reality shows, the contract does NOT dictate what they do when the work is done. A&E could be breaching contract.
Their problem, as it always is, is their false assumptions about decent civilized people. I'm sure old Phil had some great lawyers working on his contract and A&E will eventually relent or pay him a lot of money and lose the only show they have that has any viewers.
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You know what gets me? Every time some famous person comes out as gay, we hear how courageous they are, when in reality their careers get a boost. It takes real courage to stand up for not supporting gay butt sex.
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Their problem, as it always is, is their false assumptions about decent civilized people. I'm sure old Phil had some great lawyers working on his contract and A&E will eventually relent or pay him a lot of money and lose the only show they have that has any viewers.
As in the case, the only way A&E can have any control over the Dynasty show is either keep it the way The Gurneys (producers and owners of the production company which Phil works for) intend it, or cancel it all together.
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If you notice many of the DUmbasses' comments regarding this latest kerfuffle, they really expose how shallow they are and how everything revolves around the Almighty Dollar. It's reflected in how they simply cannot understand how someone could have the conviction to speak from their heart even though it may cost them financially. That absolutely leaves them scratching their heads. You get the idea that they'd sell their own mothers to keep a check rolling in.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, DUmmies. Even though I believe A&E is going to end up eating a big, steaming platter of crow on this one, with the pile of cash the Robertson family is sitting on they are set for several generations to come with or without a TV show.
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What I find hypocritical of the DUchebags is these 3 words. THE HOLLYWOOD TEN!!!
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If you notice many of the DUmbasses' comments regarding this latest kerfuffle, they really expose how shallow they are and how everything revolves around the Almighty Dollar. It's reflected in how they simply cannot understand how someone could have the conviction to speak from their heart even though it may cost them financially. That absolutely leaves them scratching their heads. You get the idea that they'd sell their own mothers to keep a check rolling in.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, DUmmies. Even though I believe A&E is going to end up eating a big, steaming platter of crow on this one, with the pile of cash the Robertson family is sitting on they are set for several generations to come with or without a TV show.
The Robertson's were sitting pretty BEFORE their TV show, this gig with "Duck Dynasty" is just gravy.
They may end up owning A&E before the dust settles. :lmao:
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The Robertson's were sitting pretty BEFORE their TV show, this gig with "Duck Dynasty" is just gravy.
They may end up owning A&E before the dust settles. :lmao:
I hope The Sportsman's Channel (or whatever it is) picks it up.
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Their problem, as it always is, is their false assumptions about decent civilized people. I'm sure old Phil had some great lawyers working on his contract and A&E will eventually relent or pay him a lot of money and lose the only show they have that has any viewers.
They still have Walking Dead my friend, but agreed on the other. :)
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You know what gets me? Every time some famous person comes out as gay, we hear how courageous they are, when in reality their careers get a boost. It takes real courage to stand up for not supporting gay butt sex.
yep
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They still have Walking Dead my friend, but agreed on the other. :)
Walking Dead is on AMC. that's their particular gravy train now that Breaking Bad is done. A&E will have to go back to made for TV movies if they lose the ducks.
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The American public has spent too long indulging the LGBLT (hold the bacon) community in their quest for legitimacy.
Now the public is all but captive to not offending the professional offense takers.
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I hope The Sportsman's Channel (or whatever it is) picks it up.
Glenn Beck has issued an invitation to the Robertsons to join his Blaze channel.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/19/glenn-beck-makes-a-very-exciting-offer-to-the-cast-of-duck-dynasty/
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Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:42 PM
riqster (6,158 posts)
Phil Robertson’s First Amendment rights have not, repeat NOT been violated.
Last edited Thu Dec 19, 2013, 04:03 PM - Edit history (2)
http://bluntandcranky.wor...repeat-not-been-violated/
Snips:
"The Government has said f***-all about Duck Boy’s anti-gay, anti-black, anti-all-kinds-of-people rants. The Government does not give a single turd from a constipated field mouse’s ass about what Phil said. The Government has done nothing at all.
No, it is a private business that has opened a can of HR Whoop-Ass on the fake old fart. It is the free market in action – A&E sees a potential threat to profitability in Robertson’s idiot statements, and is seeking to retain those profits by mitigating risk. A standard, legal, ethical, and smart business move.
It is not the eeeeevil Obaminator and his Zombie UN Free Speechbots who have told a moronic hunk of trash with cash to shut his face. It is that most beloved of all Right-Wing Institutions who have told him to STFU: an employer. "
I had to come back to this because this kinda has my undies in a bunch. Phil Robertson (you know, Duck Boy) IMO is not a fake anything. The guy is as real as they come. He considers homosexuality a sin because the Bible considers it a sin. He has made a commitment to his Lord and he is willing to give up money and fame to fulfill that commitment. (I don't expect riqster to understand that concept)
Are you aware that one of Phil's grandchildren is biracial...you know, like, oh, that guy in the WH that you love so much? He was adopted by Willie Robertson and his wife, Korie. He was chosen. They didn't get stuck with the kid...they wanted him very much. They both have said that he was the best gift they ever received.
The Robertsons are all well educated. Yes, they are Southern and Conservative and religious and happy and wealthy. I can see why you libs hate them so much. No matter what happens with Duck Dynasty the show, they will still be Southern, Conservative, religious, happy and wealthy. :tongue:
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Walking Dead is on AMC. that's their particular gravy train now that Breaking Bad is done. A&E will have to go back to BAD made for TV movies if they lose the ducks.
I watch A&E for one thing: Duck Dynasty. I wouldn't piss on the rest of their programming if it was on fire.
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I watch A&E for one thing: Duck Dynasty. I wouldn't piss on the rest of their programming if it was on fire.
My guess is once the DD family dumps A&E, A&E will replace it with a gay reality show that no one watches.
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My guess is once the DD family dumps A&E, A&E will replace it with a gay reality show that no one watches.
Everybody take twenty seconds, and draw a mental image of what the cast looks like. :-)
It is the free market in action – A&E sees a potential threat to profitability in Robertson’s idiot statements
Homos watch DD?? I don't think so. A&E just screwed the pooch.....killed the goose....threw the baby out.....&etc.
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Proof that not only do liberals want the last word, they want the only word.
I've never seen Duck Dynasty but I'm liking it more than ever.
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Proof that not only do liberals want the last word, they want the only word.
I've never seen Duck Dynasty but I'm liking it more than ever.
Uncle Si is a real hoot. :rotf:
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bzWdYmjmE0[/youtube]
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The real reason that the left hates them....
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyL1xha_1aU[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zf227NaFpg[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot6ORdhYR34[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP4r4sXmqmo[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkHebuhBe2M[/youtube]
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Doug Giles, a Christian pastor from Florida (and Hannah Giles' dad), has on his website a list of A&E sponsors/advertisers. If they can do 'boycotts,' so can we.
http://clashdaily.com/2013/12/ae-list-advertisers-hit-network-hurts-wallet/
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What this DUchebag fails to mention is Phil does NOT work for A&E. He works for Gurney productions. A&E is their distributor and if that is the case, than A&E is in the wrong to control content when it is not theirs to control.
Sort of...I expect it's the typical sort of incestuous arrangement like 'Walking Dead' has with AMC: an accounting drill to screw over someone outside the A&E or AMC corporate team, by means of the production company not making much on paper, while the distributing network rakes in all the real revenue...with the production company being just in reality a hollow puppet for the distributing company. The number one way to get screwed in media is to make a deal that involves getting a percentage of net profit, when you're going to be getting paid by the person who gets to calculate that net profit.
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To A&E:
"Son, you're blowing into the wrong end of that duck call."
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And as would be expected... primitives defend Alec while criticizing Phil...
More Primitive Hypocrisy (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024203741)
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The real reason that the left hates them....
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkHebuhBe2M[/youtube]
The last half of this one hits the nail on the head....the destruction of the extended family. I had grandparents, parents, great aunts/uncles, aunts/uncles, cousins, most all living within a short distance and then we all got together at least a couple of times a year.
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To A&E:
"Son, you're blowing into the wrong end of that duck call."
Sounds like *kcauQ* *kcauQ* ? :???:
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^^ :lmao:
No matter what happens with Duck Dynasty the show, they will still be Southern, Conservative, religious, happy and wealthy. :tongue:
I love this, JGHB. H5.
DUmmies, take your gay mafia and shove it.
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^^ :lmao:
I love this, JGHB. H5.
DUmmies, take your gay mafia and shove it.
They are used to shoving it, and they enjoy it.
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Sounds like *kcauQ* *kcauQ* ? :???:
I had to read that one aloud to get it. H5!
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The Robertsons are all well educated. Yes, they are Southern and Conservative and religious and happy and wealthy. I can see why you libs hate them so much. No matter what happens with Duck Dynasty the show, they will still be Southern, Conservative, religious, happy and wealthy. :tongue:
The left hate the Robertsons right out of the gate because they are straight white males who love God, Guns and their Country, are a happy family unit and have become wealthy the old fashioned way - They built a company up from nothing to the success that it is today by themselves.
Suck (or blow, it's your choice) on that DUmmies
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The left hate the Robertsons right out of the gate because they are straight white males who love God, Guns and their Country, are a happy family unit and have become wealthy the old fashioned way - They built a company up from nothing to the success that it is today by themselves.
Suck (or blow, it's your choice) on that DUmmies
Exactly, and they also hate them because they are what is good about this country.
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Sort of...I expect it's the typical sort of incestuous arrangement like 'Walking Dead' has with AMC: an accounting drill to screw over someone outside the A&E or AMC corporate team, by means of the production company not making much on paper, while the distributing network rakes in all the real revenue...with the production company being just in reality a hollow puppet for the distributing company. The number one way to get screwed in media is to make a deal that involves getting a percentage of net profit, when you're going to be getting paid by the person who gets to calculate that net profit.
A&E does in fact own the rights to all the seasons including this, that does not mean they have a right to content control. They either air an episode as is or don't. Remember, reality shows are way different than dramas like Walking Dead not only the obvious, the on screen people on realities are contracted through the production company, where as actors are under contract to both. Actors are paid more because of the actor unions than realities. The difference is, one, Robertsons had a small business that turned successful not just because of A&E, they also had another show before that and a series of successful home videos still adding on to this very day.
The best way to protest this removal of Phil is to return all Duck Dynasty gear that was bought in stores and purchase the Robertson gear directly through their Duck Commander website. The ones you see at a store A&E get a major percentage of, where as Duck Commander goes straight to Robertsons 100%.
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Walking Dead is on AMC. that's their particular gravy train now that Breaking Bad is done. A&E will have to go back to made for TV movies if they lose the ducks.
Well crap..taht was a brain fart and I watch TWD so go figure--apparently I don't know what channel I'm on :lmao:..thanks for the correction. :cheersmate: