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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on December 14, 2013, 09:30:55 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/11514776
Oh my.
I try staying away from the crazy forum on Skins's island--it's too much like shooting fish in a barrel, too easy--but damn, the whole place is boring as Hell tonight, and so one has to go and take what one can get.
The cooking and baking forum's about as lively as a nursing home at midnight.
Locut0s (4,535 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:13 PM
This is going to be an awkward Christmas...
By now my family at large, aunts, uncles, cousins etc largely know that I dropped school again. They know I have "issues" but I've never come out and really told anyone anything in detail. They know how many times I've dropped school of course and the fact that I still live at home, they know a little about me having depression, but not much more than that. A couple know more than others do.
I know a few of my cousins and other relatives would just not, DO not, understand. One cousin has always been particularly condescending towards me ever since my problems have become more widely known. She means well I guess but she treats me like a 6 year old and wants to "fix me". That family has always been about success success success anyway and every time I meet them they want to know "what are you doing, what have you done" obviously nothing or very little but they always make a point of asking. Then they go on to wallow in their own achievements. I remember talking to said cousin when I was working 7-11 way back, a time I was doing MUCH better emotionally than now, and she actually said "I couldn't do that, I guess I'm always just focused on the 'bigger picture'" blah blah blah.
Anyway as always we will be having everyone over for Christmas dinner and going over to their houses. I'm used to feeling like a failure in their presence but I've been particularly beaten down these past few months. So yeah these family dinners are going to be awkward for me. I'm actually still looking forward to Christmas otherwise. I really wish I could just skip them and have dinner with my immediate family but that would just look worse, they would enquire about what's wrong, why I'm not there etc.
How do you handle these types of things?
HereSince1628 (27,825 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:25 PM
1. I handle them by not being in attendance
That has consequences, of course.
I learned of my father's death 3 years after it happened from a grade school friend who happened on my fb page.
But, I guess it worked out ok, because I didn't have to deal with anyone at that funeral either.
Locut0s (4,535 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:34 PM
3. Yeah that's not really an option yet...
If I were off living on my own I could make up some excuse and do that. But they all know I live with my parents 24/7. I need to fix that soon of course but it's not happening before Christmas. I suspect once I finally DO set out on my own and live as a real adult I will cut off ties with the rest of my family more, not like you did entirely but I have little interest in communicating with anyone but my immediate parents.
But I'm probably just going to have to grin and bear it.
enough (7,387 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:34 PM
2. Over many years of life, I have decided not to allow holidays to cause too much suffering.
Why not do just what you say you really want to do this year: "skip them and have dinner with my immediate family."
You say that "would just look worse." But at some point we have to live our real lives, not live for the way things "look" to others.
The fact is, nobody outside your immediate family cares that much what you do, and you really have to ask yourself why you make yourself do things you don't want to do because you think other people in your family will judge you. There is absolutely no hope of finding a stable path in life until you give up worrying about what outsiders may or may not think of you.
polly7 (9,223 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:45 PM
4. I'm sorry Locut0s
I know how hard it is to deal with family that doesn't understand. I went through a really, horrible time after my Dad's suicide, and finding him, and my family just couldn't understand why I was doing so poorly with it after so long. It was me who took him to doctors, specialists, helped him daily and watched him become more and more depressed, as he'd never been sick in his life until this new blood disease. I knew he was afraid and didn't want to put the rest of us through watching him suffer. Anyway ... I handled it, at first, by completely isolating ... I was in no state, really, to even care I had family.
They all had someone to turn to ... I was alone. But then, as you say .... the questions started .... so, when are you getting back to work, what have you been up to, etc. etc. I couldn't go back to the ambulance then on emergency calls as I was getting absolutely no sleep d/t anxiety and depression, so I just started back to taking transfers back and forth to the city. Then I began making dolls ...... of all things! I never had, or played with a doll in my life, but have always been artistic, so painting, baking and making these dolls was somewhat of a time-filler and therapy for me. And at least I could tell them I was busy, busy! (exaggerating, I wasn't all that busy) making dolls to sell. I also started doing books again for a small oil company which mostly doesn't take too much time, but they don't have to know that.
I guess, really ...... I have no advice other than to try not to let what they say bother you and DO NOT EVER FEEL GUILTY for not achieving what they say they have. It's sad there's such a stigma still attached to depression and ptsd, etc. because it's no different than having any other illness that needs treated, and your family would do well to educate themselves on it, because it can happen to their own children, or even themselves. I hope others have good advice.
De Leonist (40 posts) Tue Dec 10, 2013, 10:36 AM
5. I gotta echo this
Most people who've never had endure to these struggles have no ****ing right to judge you. Nor should you feel obligated to take their feelings into account. Locutos, aside from that the only advice I can say is this. Tell them that you have been dealing with deep depression and that they have no right to judge you. If this bothers them tell them the truth, they are idiots.
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HereSince1628 (27,825 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:25 PM
1. I handle them by not being in attendance
That has consequences, of course.
I learned of my father's death 3 years after it happened from a grade school friend who happened on my fb page.
But, I guess it worked out ok, because I didn't have to deal with anyone at that funeral either.
What is wrong with you people?
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Get a job, stick with that job, even if you still stay with mommy and daddy you will start feeling better about yourself the more you work. Then maybe someday you will be able to make it on your own.
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How do you handle these types of things?
Keep your head down and volunteer to do the dishes. :-)
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What is wrong with you people?
Bottom of the food chain loser. This guy is as big of a loser as one can get and has the nerve to whine about having to face up to being a loser. Did it ever occur to this loser to get motivated and DO something to avoid being a loser and having to face the music? Evidently not. He is deserving of his annual humiliation.
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The good news is, that this sad little diseased tendril on the human family tree will never procreate.
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OK, let's do this.
I am well acquainted with a family practice doctor who sees a number of children every day. Many times, a child will present with minor, nonspecific symptoms, and in a certain number of cases,
the doctor writes a note on the patient record: FLK. This note, FLK, accompanies other notes regarding the symptoms the child may have, and that becomes part of the medical record.
FLK, which is only applied to the records of certain children, has a very specific meaning.
Funny Looking Kid.
I have seen a picture of Loconuts. Loconuts, you are a Funny Looking Kid. In addition to all the weird shit wrong with you, you are misshapen and odd to the extent that you are the Noah Joad lookingest mother****er in the world. Something happened to you at birth. Something horrible. Give up. You have no hope.
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I have seen a picture of Loconuts. Loconuts, you are a Funny Looking Kid. In addition to all the weird shit wrong with you, you are misshapen and odd to the extent that you are the Noah Joad lookingest mother****er in the world. Something happened to you at birth. Something horrible. Give up. You have no hope.
LocoNuts is indeed an odd-looking individual.
Not quite as weird-looking as Pam Dawson, but definitely the victim of some kind of genetic accident.
Of course part of LocoNuts's strange appearance may be the result of his parentage.
I believe he's part Chinese, as he's mentioned sometimes speaking that barbaric language at home.
He looks half-Chinese/half Pekingese.
At least his family is in Canada, not Red China.
It'd be pretty awful if you were limited by law to one child and it turned out to be LocoNuts.
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LocoNuts is indeed an odd-looking individual.
Not quite as weird-looking as Pam Dawson, but definitely the victim of some kind of genetic accident.
Of course part of LocoNuts's strange appearance may be the result of his parentage.
I believe he's part Chinese, as he's mentioned sometimes speaking that barbaric language at home.
He looks half-Chinese/half Pekingese.
At least his family is in Canada, not Red China.
It'd be pretty awful if you were limited by law to one child and it turned out to be LocoNuts.
Then he must have been yanked from the womb with chopsticks instead of forceps.
As for Pam, I regret to inform you that I just imagined not only her possible offspring with Loconuts, but the act of conception itself. Sad, sorrowful, pitiful, unlikely, horrible, unfathomable conception.
I'm sorry, guys.
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I have seen LocoNuts' parents, and they look normal. Imagine how they must feel.
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As for Pam, I regret to inform you that I just imagined not only her possible offspring with Loconuts, but the act of conception itself. Sad, sorrowful, pitiful, unlikely, horrible, unfathomable conception.
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Locut0s (4,535 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:13 PM
One cousin has always been particularly condescending towards me ever since my problems have become more widely known. She means well I guess but she treats me like a 6 year old and wants to "fix me".
Loconuts, I think it's pretty clear, and you would indeed concur...you need fixing.
When one is so in need of "fixing" it's not condescension. If your wish is to remain a "manchild" then I can see where the fixing part can be a bit vexing.
But I know, just as much as you know, that you need fixing. I believe in my heart that you want to be fixed but you just can not be bothered with the process.
There is no pill for you, no reset button, but hey...look at it this way...you are rockin that basement like few manchildren can!
Oh, BTW, I almost forgot to ask...do your parents own a shotgun?
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Locut0s (4,535 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:13 PM
One cousin has always been particularly condescending towards me ever since my problems have become more widely known. She means well I guess but she treats me like a 6 year old and wants to "fix me".
She treats you exactly how you act, numbnuts. If you'd act like an adult, you'd be treated like an adult.
Act like a whiny bitch of a 6 year old...well. There ya go.
As far as the "fix me" part, I want to quote one of America's more prominent politicians, Nancy "Popeye" Pelosi:
"Embrace the suck!"
No one can "fix" you, except you, and apparently, you have no real desire to be "fixed", you only want to whine, bitch, and moan on a public forum filled with retards, rejects, and mental midgets like yourself, losers and moochers who couldn't/wouldn't survive if their "meal ticket" were to disappear, be it family or government.
That day will be a glorious day, indeed! :yahoo:
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Loconuts...do your parents own a shotgun?
Pretzel Dick has one, and he's just down the road in Bellevue, Washington.
C'mon, Pretzeler, smuggle that big, bad 12 gauge across the border and put a fellow DUmpmonkey out of his misery!
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I would go skiing for Christmas if I was Loconuts.
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Locut0s (4,535 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:13 PM
One cousin has always been particularly condescending towards me ever since my problems have become more widely known. She means well I guess but she treats me like a 6 year old and wants to "fix me".
LocoNuts, please, don't be so dense!
She's using the term the way one does when taking a puppy to the vet to be "fixed".
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LocoNuts, please, don't be so dense!
She's using the term the way one does when taking a puppy to the vet to be "fixed".
I'm not so sure about that. Neutering, the removal of testicles, requires the actual existence of testicles in the first place.
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I'm not so sure about that. Neutering, the removal of testicles, requires the actual existence of testicles in the first place.
Just because he doesn't have a sack doesn't mean he doesn't have them.....he just never matured enough for them to come down.
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Just because he doesn't have a sack doesn't mean he doesn't have them.....he just never matured enough for them to come down.
My guess is that removal of his testicles is going to require some exploratory surgery. Once there, they will discover a pair of ovaries instead.
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My guess is that removal of his testicles is going to require some exploratory surgery. Once there, they will discover a pair of ovaries instead.
To quote a recent DUmmie post, then he would have to be "sprayed".
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My guess is that removal of his testicles is going to require some exploratory surgery. Once there, they will discover a pair of ovaries instead.
May I do the surgery.....I need the practice....I figure Obamacare has a place for surgeons like me.
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Locut0s (4,535 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:13 PM
This is going to be an awkward Christmas...
By now my family at large, aunts, uncles, cousins etc largely know that I dropped school again. They know I have "issues" but I've never come out and really told anyone anything in detail. They know how many times I've dropped school of course and the fact that I still live at home, they know a little about me having depression, but not much more than that. A couple know more than others do.
I know a few of my cousins and other relatives would just not, DO not, understand. One cousin has always been particularly condescending towards me ever since my problems have become more widely known. She means well I guess but she treats me like a 6 year old and wants to "fix me". That family has always been about success success success anyway and every time I meet them they want to know "what are you doing, what have you done" obviously nothing or very little but they always make a point of asking. Then they go on to wallow in their own achievements. I remember talking to said cousin when I was working 7-11 way back, a time I was doing MUCH better emotionally than now, and she actually said "I couldn't do that, I guess I'm always just focused on the 'bigger picture'" blah blah blah.
Anyway as always we will be having everyone over for Christmas dinner and going over to their houses. I'm used to feeling like a failure in their presence but I've been particularly beaten down these past few months. So yeah these family dinners are going to be awkward for me. I'm actually still looking forward to Christmas otherwise. I really wish I could just skip them and have dinner with my immediate family but that would just look worse, they would enquire about what's wrong, why I'm not there etc.
Maybe that is because you ARE a failure? Look loser... sooner or later mommy and daddy will no longer be there and when that happens... then what are you gonna do? Get off your ass and get a job. Even if it's digging a ditch. Otherwise you are gonna end up like LFR or Bobbo the Hobo when your parents finally do take the eternal dirt nap.
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Maybe that is because you ARE a failure? Look loser... sooner or later mommy and daddy will no longer be there and when that happens... then what are you gonna do? Get off your ass and get a job. Even if it's digging a ditch. Otherwise you are gonna end up like LFR or Bobbo the Hobo when your parents finally do take the eternal dirt nap.
I imagine his parents are fairly young. He has plenty of time to sponge off them until they kick the bucket and he makes good in the will.
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Get a job, stick with that job, even if you still stay with mommy and daddy you will start feeling better about yourself the more you work. Then maybe someday you will be able to make it on your own.
How can you do that when everyone around you keeps talking about "success success success??!!??"
Don't you realize how hard it is to continue to be a failure when people keep stressing that?
Success, living on your own, owning your own life, not being FORCED by being pulled by your ear into the dining room on holidays -- all are stupid and overrated!
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I imagine his parents are fairly young. He has plenty of time to sponge off them until they kick the bucket and he makes good in the will.
I hope they are mortgaged to the hilt (reverse mortgage would be PERFECT) and took multiple trips around the world and leave no estate of any real value when loc0nuts' parents pass -- even better may they have a LOOOONG life!
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I imagine his parents are fairly young. He has plenty of time to sponge off them until they kick the bucket and he makes good in the will.
Unless loconuts drives them crazy enough to off themselves. :cheersmate:
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polly7 (9,223 posts) Mon Dec 9, 2013, 09:45 PM
4. I'm sorry Locut0s
I know how hard it is to deal with family that doesn't understand. I went through a really, horrible time after my Dad's suicide, and finding him, and my family just couldn't understand why I was doing so poorly with it after so long. It was me who took him to doctors, specialists, helped him daily
This explains his suicide.
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I had to work really hard to get enough days off in a row to fly home to visit my family this Christmas. I'm working Christmas eve until 7:30 on Christmas morning, then I'll be driving to the airport and catching a plane to California, where I will then rent a car and drive 3 hours so that I can see my family as a surprise. I didn't tell anybody what I was planning because I wasn't sure that I would be able to get a workable schedule, and now I just feel like surprising them ;-)
You want to gripe because you feel "pressure" from your family? Have you considered celebrating their successes? I love seeing my cousins and spending time with them. You are an adult, nobody can actually make you go if you don't want to, but do you seriously want to sacrifice family relationships because you might feel a bit uncomfortable?
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But they all know I live with my parents 24/7. I need to fix that soon of course but it's not happening before Christmas.
No shit? Aww.....
Any actual attempts should bring comedy gold.
I remember talking to said cousin when I was working 7-11 way back,
(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4954684035498000&pid=1.7)
Yes, go on...
a time I was doing MUCH better emotionally than now
Hellooooooo...? Connection?
(http://lauragonzalez.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/psychoanalytic-couch.jpg)
Not wearing a dress would probably help.
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I have 3 sisters and 2 brothers. One of my sisters has a bi-polar condition (and other things as well). Getting together on holidays, I can sort of understand locut0s situation. But in my family it comes down to this, we give my sister a wide berth and lots of understanding but she takes advantage of that to the point where it becomes absurd X10. Finally, enough is enough and someone will bring some perspective into the discussion and it all down hill from there.
What my sister will do, and I see some parallels to locut0s situation is:
1. She reminds everyone that she has a college degree. As if we didn't know this. Her degree is in speech and drama. She has awful speach and she cannot act to save her life. It took her 6 years to get her 4 year degree. And all of us have at a minimum a BA or BS degree so what is the big deal?
2. She actually got fired from her job working for the federal government.
3. She has annoying/disgusting personal habits.
4. She will find a way in any discussion to blame a republican for some wrong in the world. Since most of us are republicans, she insinuates that those who vote that way are uninformed. She cannot tie her own shoes but she can tell us how to vote.
The thing that she does to get everyone annoyed with her is she acts like she is an authority on everything. She tells me, a vol. firefighter, how to put out fires or what a first responder should do. She tells Mrs. fatboy (who grew up around horses), how to take care of horses. She tells one of my brothers, a computer programmer, how to program. On and on. She knows nothing about any of this but yet she knows everything. She must dominate any and all conversations, regardless of the subject matter.
No one tries to make her feel bad, she brings it all on herself. Then gets all insulted when someone finally puts their foot down. For years we all tip toed around her but once the seal was broken, it almost seems like she enjoys being the victim and does whatever it takes to become one.
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I have 3 sisters and 2 brothers. One of my sisters has a bi-polar condition (and other things as well). Getting together on holidays, I can sort of understand locut0s situation. But in my family it comes down to this, we give my sister a wide berth and lots of understanding but she takes advantage of that to the point where it becomes absurd X10. Finally, enough is enough and someone will bring some perspective into the discussion and it all down hill from there.
What my sister will do, and I see some parallels to locut0s situation is:
1. She reminds everyone that she has a college degree. As if we didn't know this. Her degree is in speech and drama. She has awful speach and she cannot act to save her life. It took her 6 years to get her 4 year degree. And all of us have at a minimum a BA or BS degree so what is the big deal?
2. She actually got fired from her job working for the federal government.
3. She has annoying/disgusting personal habits.
4. She will find a way in any discussion to blame a republican for some wrong in the world. Since most of us are republicans, she insinuates that those who vote that way are uninformed. She cannot tie her own shoes but she can tell us how to vote.
The thing that she does to get everyone annoyed with her is she acts like she is an authority on everything. She tells me, a vol. firefighter, how to put out fires or what a first responder should do. She tells Mrs. fatboy (who grew up around horses), how to take care of horses. She tells one of my brothers, a computer programmer, how to program. On and on. She knows nothing about any of this but yet she knows everything. She must dominate any and all conversations, regardless of the subject matter.
No one tries to make her feel bad, she brings it all on herself. Then gets all insulted when someone finally puts their foot down. For years we all tip toed around her but once the seal was broken, it almost seems like she enjoys being the victim and does whatever it takes to become one.
Wow...I never would have imagined somebody would admit to being related to Nadin. My condolences.
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I have 3 sisters and 2 brothers. One of my sisters has a bi-polar condition (and other things as well). Getting together on holidays, I can sort of understand locut0s situation. But in my family it comes down to this, we give my sister a wide berth and lots of understanding but she takes advantage of that to the point where it becomes absurd X10. Finally, enough is enough and someone will bring some perspective into the discussion and it all down hill from there.
What my sister will do, and I see some parallels to locut0s situation is:
1. She reminds everyone that she has a college degree. As if we didn't know this. Her degree is in speech and drama. She has awful speach and she cannot act to save her life. It took her 6 years to get her 4 year degree. And all of us have at a minimum a BA or BS degree so what is the big deal?
2. She actually got fired from her job working for the federal government.
3. She has annoying/disgusting personal habits.
4. She will find a way in any discussion to blame a republican for some wrong in the world. Since most of us are republicans, she insinuates that those who vote that way are uninformed. She cannot tie her own shoes but she can tell us how to vote.
The thing that she does to get everyone annoyed with her is she acts like she is an authority on everything. She tells me, a vol. firefighter, how to put out fires or what a first responder should do. She tells Mrs. fatboy (who grew up around horses), how to take care of horses. She tells one of my brothers, a computer programmer, how to program. On and on. She knows nothing about any of this but yet she knows everything. She must dominate any and all conversations, regardless of the subject matter.
No one tries to make her feel bad, she brings it all on herself. Then gets all insulted when someone finally puts their foot down. For years we all tip toed around her but once the seal was broken, it almost seems like she enjoys being the victim and does whatever it takes to become one.
Whole thing is BS. Nobody, and I mean nobody, gets fired from a federal government job.
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Whole thing is BS. Nobody, and I mean nobody, gets fired from a federal government job.
I thought so also but this actually happened. It took her about 2 years of hard work.
When all of this happened, myself and one of my other sisters had to get involved in her life. Long long story and off topic, but we found papers with all kinds of employee intervention plans and remediation's. One other thing, due to her personal habits, no one wanted to work near her so they gave her a small "office" just to isolate her from the general population. Basically she was a file clerk at a military base and had her own office. I know, hard to believe but true. And I don't blame anyone for doubting me because I didn't think it was possible either. But lets just say that I only wish that I had a big enough imagination to make this whole thing up.
on edit: I really don't care if you believe me or not. The truth is the truth. The thing about her government job is literally just 1/100 of the bizarre stories I can tell you about my sister.
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Wow...I never would have imagined somebody would admit to being related to Nadin. My condolences.
There is a certain sameness I have to admit.
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A "certain sameness?" Good Lord, man, it's her!!
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I'm used to feeling like a failure in their presence but I've been particularly beaten down these past few months.
I really don't want to sound like just the completely insensitive dick I normally would play on this one, the guy obviously is completely dysfunctional due to mental health issues beyond his control that are not the average cynical and manipulative Liberal exploitation of everyone else's resources for their own personal benefit.
However, LocutOs, it's time to face the facts: You really are a failure. Accept it and adapt to it, and spare yourself the unending drama and anguish that pretending otherwise has generated for you.
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somehow these things are beginning to clone themselves. It'll inevitably be that old "Lemmings" video game with all these short hairy identical beings following each other around uttering nonsensical annecdotes, one upping each other with made up facts and eventually all following each other into a gaping hole with a satisfying "plop" at the end.
(http://l.j-factor.com/gifs/Lemmings-OnlyFloatersCanSurviveThis.gif)
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A "certain sameness?" Good Lord, man, it's her!!
You..... made me laugh :-)
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I really don't want to sound like just the completely insensitive dick I normally would play on this one, the guy obviously is completely dysfunctional due to mental health issues beyond his control that are not the average cynical and manipulative Liberal exploitation of everyone else's resources for their own personal benefit.
However, LocutOs, it's time to face the facts: You really are a failure. Accept it and adapt to it, and spare yourself the unending drama and anguish that pretending otherwise has generated for you.
There was this kid in my compostion class, sat right behind me. He was 17, home schooled and in dual enrollment. The kids in my church that are home schooled are academically high achievers and dual enrollment has a connotation that the kid is smart.
We had to write several essays in class and peer review them so I had to proof one of his essays. This essay was all about his aspergers disease or what ever it is. This kid was so socially disfunctional that it wasn't even funny. And everything revolved around his aspergers. The universal excuse. We all have our shortcomings but do we always give excuses in every conversation? I hope not.
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I really don't want to sound like just the completely insensitive dick I normally would play on this one, the guy obviously is completely dysfunctional due to mental health issues beyond his control that are not the average cynical and manipulative Liberal exploitation of everyone else's resources for their own personal benefit.
He has said that he gets really anxious, depressed, obsesses over his dysfunction, over eats and craves alcohol. Sounds like a vicious circle he can't break. He says he wants to change, work and live on his own. I still think he would be better off trying a 12 step program in a hospital situation then progress to living in a half way home for six months. He really needs to get away from his parents who are probably just as sick as he is and are enabling him to be like this.
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He has said that he gets really anxious, depressed, obsesses over his dysfunction, over eats and craves alcohol. Sounds like a vicious circle he can't break. He says he wants to change, work and live on his own. I still think he would be better off trying a 12 step program in a hospital situation then progress to living in a half way home for six months. He really needs to get away from his parents who are probably just as sick as he is and are enabling him to be like this.
That's a whole lot of words to just say "He should go to Tucson and shack up with Amber and work at the same coffee house". :-)
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That's a whole lot of words to just say "He should go to Tucson and shack up with Amber and work at the same coffee house". :-)
It's a long ride to Tucson....would you like to be on the bus when the DUmmie freaks out?
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Whole thing is BS. Nobody, and I mean nobody, gets fired from a federal government job.
Well, it's mantra on our side, but it's wrong. There is a whole lot more 'due process' in that system than makes any logical sense at all, but it is far from impossible to do it. I did a ton of them as a Fed labor attorney.
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4. She will find a way in any discussion to blame a republican for some wrong in the world. Since most of us are republicans, she insinuates that those who vote that way are uninformed. She cannot tie her own shoes but she can tell us how to vote.
Well, of course! They have the finest in Journalism beamed into their heads every night, playing to the Lowest Common Potato.
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4646726371837325&pid=1.7)
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Quote from: Tucker on Today at 04:33:21 am
Whole thing is BS. Nobody, and I mean nobody, gets fired from a federal government job.
Well, it's mantra on our side, but it's wrong. There is a whole lot more 'due process' in that system than makes any logical sense at all, but it is far from impossible to do it. I did a ton of them as a Fed labor attorney.
Correct. It's a long drawn out process, but eminently doable. It just takes a concerted effort at the supervisory level.
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Well, it's mantra on our side, but it's wrong. There is a whole lot more 'due process' in that system than makes any logical sense at all, but it is far from impossible to do it. I did a ton of them as a Fed labor attorney.
You would have to be a total screw up. By total screw up I mean one that makes those at DU look sane.
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You would have to be a total screw up. By total screw up I mean one that makes those at DU look sane.
Thanks, apology accepted.
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Correct. It's a long drawn out process, but eminently doable. It just takes a concerted effort at the supervisory level.
In the mid 70s I was working at 2nd Armored Div. Hq. and we had a new G-3 Col. coming in. This guy had a heroic and remarkable career spanning Korea and Viet Nam combat. The only thing anybody was talking about before he arrived was that he had managed to get two DOD civilians fired while serving in the Pentagon.
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You would have to be a total screw up. By total screw up I mean one that makes those at DU look sane.
Oh, actually the level of dedication to hard work and judgment demonstrated by the typical DUer would usually be enough, you just have to build a record over time to document it...
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