This wouldn't happen if we had high speed rail(DUmmie)...........it would be a lot worse(reality).
Has the cause of derailment been mentioned yet?
Has the cause of derailment been mentioned yet?
It's Bush's fault. [/DUmmy]I agree...
Mayor Michael Bloomberg was in Bermuda on Sunday when a train derailed in the Bronx, the most recent time that the mayor has been out of town when a major incident in New York City occurred, a person familiar with the matter said.
Mr. Bloomberg, who steps down on Dec. 31 after 12 years at City Hall, was playing golf Sunday at Bermuda’s majestic Mid Ocean golf club, a person who spotted the mayor said. The Metro-North Railroad train derailment — killing four people and injuring more than 60 others — occurred at roughly 7:20 a.m. New York time.
Mr. Bloomberg was golfing in the early morning and did not leave the course until roughly 1 p.m, the person said. Bermuda is one hour ahead of New York time.
NTSB: Train going too fast at curve before wreck
By Associated Press,
YONKERS, N.Y. — A commuter train that derailed over the weekend, killing four passengers, was hurtling at 82 mph as it entered a 30 mph curve, a federal investigator said Monday. But whether the wreck was the result of human error or brake trouble was unclear, he said.
Asked why the train was going so fast, National Transportation Safety Board member Earl Weener said: “That’s the question we need to answer.â€
He would not disclose what the engineer operating the train had told investigators. Weener said investigators were examining the engineer’s cellphone — apparently to determine whether he was distracted.
Weener said the information on the locomotive’s speed was preliminary and extracted from the Metro-North train’s two data recorders, taken from the wreckage after the Sunday morning accident in the Bronx.
He said the throttle went to idle six seconds before the derailed train came to a complete stop — “very late in the game†for a train going that fast — and the brakes were fully engaged five seconds before the train stopped.
Someone's gonna pay big for this.Don't worry, the union will cover for him.
Don't worry, the union will cover for him.
I wish I wasn't joking.
The engineer will say he does not know nothing, see nothing or hear nothing. Kinda like Obummer and Hitlery... or the union lawyers will tell him to take the 5th.
The engineer will say he does not know nothing, see nothing or hear nothing. Kinda like Obummer and Hitlery... or the union lawyers will tell him to take the 5th."What difference does it make?"
NTSB kicks train union out of crash investigationCNN (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/04/us/new-york-train-crash/)
The NTSB said it has booted the rail union from its investigation into the weekend's deadly train derailment for violating confidentiality rules.
The agency made the announcement late Tuesday night, hours after a union representative told CNN that the train engineer apparently "was nodding off and caught himself too late" before the accident.
In its announcement, the NTSB specifically cited those comments as the violation.
CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/04/us/new-york-train-crash/)
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CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/04/us/new-york-train-crash/)
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Those unions would ofcompromisedinhibited and undermined the investigation. Anyways, screw them.
Tanker, we don't have the old dead man pedal anymore. On cab cars, you have a small button that has to be depressed approximately every 30 to 45 seconds. Same on the P42 locomotive on the train. It can be cut out, but the seal would have to be broken, and he wouldn't jeopardize his job just for that issue. When the button is not pushed, the brakes go into a penalty application, in other words they set at a service rate, vs a full blown emergency application. With a 7 car train, running 70 mph, he would have had to start braking 1/2 mile to make a smooth transition from 70 to 30. That said, he was operating from a cab car. The engine on the rear. When he applies the brakes, he gets blended braking, Car brakes apply, as well as dynamic braking on the engine. You'll stand people up if used forcefully, it brakes that good.
If, as he said, the jolt of starting into the curve woke him. Then the derailment was a forgone conclusion. Although a passenger train schedule is better than a freight pool, extra board engineers still haven't really got a handle on when they go to work. You could know only 2 hours before sign up. No excuse for nodding, just a possible factor. As with every rail accident, no matter which company, we are always briefed and told known details by Company officials, and told to be alert and careful.
What we where told is, he was clean, no D&A involved. His cell record was clean, no calls, texts, etc. Understandable since we could face 10,000 fines for just having one on. He had a good work record, with no prior discipline or safety violations. As for the speed, I have no doubt the speed given was correct, however, they will have to measure wheel diameter to insure the recorder is accurate. It will be adjusted more precisely when that's done.
As for the Union, it's not their place to block in any way the investigation.
Tanker, we don't have the old dead man pedal anymore.