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Title: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 25, 2008, 02:31:41 PM

if gallup has picked up a shift in momentum, I would think it's because of the oil
drilling issue. 

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Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%

(http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/080625DailyUpdateGraph1_bnputed.gif)

PRINCETON, NJ -- The latest Gallup Poll Daily tracking update on the presidential election finds John McCain and Barack Obama exactly tied at 45% among registered voters nationwide.

Voter preferences had been fairly evenly divided for the past week, with Obama generally holding a slight advantage of two or three percentage points. This is the first time since Gallup's May 31-June 4 rolling average that Obama does not have at least a slim advantage over McCain. Obama's largest lead to date has been seven points.

Since the changes from Tuesday's results are well within the margin of sampling error, it is unclear at this point if today's results represent a further tightening of the race. The last two individual nights of polling have, however, been more favorable to McCain that what Gallup has shown for most of June.

Link (http://www.gallup.com/poll/108376/Gallup-Daily-Obama-McCain-Tied-45.aspx)
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Jim on June 25, 2008, 03:59:27 PM
agreed.  BHO will rue his stance on drilling.

or maybe he's too arrogant to realize there are some of his asinine ideas that people don't like.
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 25, 2008, 05:00:03 PM
agreed.  BHO will rue his stance on drilling.

or maybe he's too arrogant to realize there are some of his asinine ideas that people don't like.

he won't back off that position.

he seems to be incapable of admitting that he is wrong. his whole position on meeting with terrorist
heads of state was actually a simple matter of an incorrect answer in a debate, but instead of just
admitting his blunder the next day, he has turned it into a major part of his foreign policy (or what
he has of one).

it's probably also going to prevent him from moderating his position on the war in iraq.  he just can't
seem to admit that he is wrong about anything.

Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: NHSparky on June 25, 2008, 05:56:01 PM
WE, how **DARE** you!  Aren't you aware the Barackstar! is all-knowing, all-seeing, Jesus-Christ-Superstar omnipotent and can do no wrong?!?!?

Again, those whom the gods would destroy, they first make proud.
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Schadenfreude on June 25, 2008, 06:14:15 PM
agreed.  BHO will rue his stance on drilling.

or maybe he's too arrogant to realize there are some of his asinine ideas that people don't like.

he won't back off that position.

he seems to be incapable of admitting that he is wrong. his whole position on meeting with terrorist
heads of state was actually a simple matter of an incorrect answer in a debate, but instead of just
admitting his blunder the next day, he has turned it into a major part of his foreign policy (or what
he has of one).

it's probably also going to prevent him from moderating his position on the war in iraq.  he just can't
seem to admit that he is wrong about anything.



One of the brilliant minds here (I'm sorry the member escapes me) said that Barack is different from the Clintons. The Clintons being pragmatists (which way is the wind blowing? I'll chose that way!), while Barack is an idelogue (never waver or compromise on your beliefs). Sure that makes Barack dangerous, but I predict that it will also be his downfall. Politicians will do what they need to do to get re-elected, period!

Giving credit where credit is due....

The difference is that the Clintons are the very definition of pragmatists. They will do whatever leaves them in power and ideology is somewhere down the line. Barry's an idelogue, something that makes him far more dangerous than Billary ever thought of being.
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: DixieBelle on June 25, 2008, 06:24:41 PM
^good find. So true too.
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Jim on June 25, 2008, 10:01:05 PM
agreed.  BHO will rue his stance on drilling.

or maybe he's too arrogant to realize there are some of his asinine ideas that people don't like.

he won't back off that position.

he seems to be incapable of admitting that he is wrong. his whole position on meeting with terrorist
heads of state was actually a simple matter of an incorrect answer in a debate, but instead of just
admitting his blunder the next day, he has turned it into a major part of his foreign policy (or what
he has of one).

it's probably also going to prevent him from moderating his position on the war in iraq.  he just can't
seem to admit that he is wrong about anything.




he may do what he's already done which is to back off and claim that its not a flip flop at all.

he's already held 3 different positions on cut-n-run and I expect more.

he tried to back off the no-preconditions but was not allowed to so gave it up.

but his arrogance is quite strong and will not allow him to admit wrong.  which is funny if you recall an interview he did some time ago saying one of his strengths was his ability to be shown to be wrong, learning from it and moving on.

he's such a loser
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Schadenfreude on June 25, 2008, 10:59:10 PM
agreed.  BHO will rue his stance on drilling.

or maybe he's too arrogant to realize there are some of his asinine ideas that people don't like.

he won't back off that position.

he seems to be incapable of admitting that he is wrong. his whole position on meeting with terrorist
heads of state was actually a simple matter of an incorrect answer in a debate, but instead of just
admitting his blunder the next day, he has turned it into a major part of his foreign policy (or what
he has of one).

it's probably also going to prevent him from moderating his position on the war in iraq.  he just can't
seem to admit that he is wrong about anything.




he may do what he's already done which is to back off and claim that its not a flip flop at all.

he's already held 3 different positions on cut-n-run and I expect more.

he tried to back off the no-preconditions but was not allowed to so gave it up.

but his arrogance is quite strong and will not allow him to admit wrong.  which is funny if you recall an interview he did some time ago saying one of his strengths was his ability to be shown to be wrong, learning from it and moving on.

he's such a loser

Oh but what a coup it would be for McCain to win the election and renounce all things liberal and become so staunchly conservative it would make Reagan blush.... I fantasize about this often.  :uhsure:
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 25, 2008, 11:09:25 PM
agreed.  BHO will rue his stance on drilling.

or maybe he's too arrogant to realize there are some of his asinine ideas that people don't like.

he won't back off that position.

he seems to be incapable of admitting that he is wrong. his whole position on meeting with terrorist
heads of state was actually a simple matter of an incorrect answer in a debate, but instead of just
admitting his blunder the next day, he has turned it into a major part of his foreign policy (or what
he has of one).

it's probably also going to prevent him from moderating his position on the war in iraq.  he just can't
seem to admit that he is wrong about anything.




he may do what he's already done which is to back off and claim that its not a flip flop at all.

he's already held 3 different positions on cut-n-run and I expect more.

he tried to back off the no-preconditions but was not allowed to so gave it up.

but his arrogance is quite strong and will not allow him to admit wrong.  which is funny if you recall an interview he did some time ago saying one of his strengths was his ability to be shown to be wrong, learning from it and moving on.

he's such a loser

Oh but what a coup it would be for McCain to win the election and renounce all things liberal and become so staunchly conservative it would make Reagan blush.... I fantasize about this often.  :uhsure:

I would be happy if, after he was elected, he only pissed me off once a week. :whatever: :-)
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Schadenfreude on June 25, 2008, 11:14:33 PM
agreed.  BHO will rue his stance on drilling.

or maybe he's too arrogant to realize there are some of his asinine ideas that people don't like.

he won't back off that position.

he seems to be incapable of admitting that he is wrong. his whole position on meeting with terrorist
heads of state was actually a simple matter of an incorrect answer in a debate, but instead of just
admitting his blunder the next day, he has turned it into a major part of his foreign policy (or what
he has of one).

it's probably also going to prevent him from moderating his position on the war in iraq.  he just can't
seem to admit that he is wrong about anything.




he may do what he's already done which is to back off and claim that its not a flip flop at all.

he's already held 3 different positions on cut-n-run and I expect more.

he tried to back off the no-preconditions but was not allowed to so gave it up.

but his arrogance is quite strong and will not allow him to admit wrong.  which is funny if you recall an interview he did some time ago saying one of his strengths was his ability to be shown to be wrong, learning from it and moving on.

he's such a loser

Oh but what a coup it would be for McCain to win the election and renounce all things liberal and become so staunchly conservative it would make Reagan blush.... I fantasize about this often.  :uhsure:

I would be happy if, after he was elected, he only pissed me off once a week. :whatever: :-)

I hear you. I am starting to think about an Obama presidency and really... what does one look like? Does anyone know? I am trying to visualize him making sweeping uber-liberal change and I just can't imagine that he has that influence when it's time for the rubber to meet the road.
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Chris_ on June 25, 2008, 11:16:05 PM
I hear you. I am starting to think about an Obama presidency and really... what does one look like?

Atlas Shrugged.
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Schadenfreude on June 26, 2008, 05:31:37 AM
I hear you. I am starting to think about an Obama presidency and really... what does one look like?

Atlas Shrugged.

So true Chris.
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Jim on June 26, 2008, 07:11:53 AM
I hear you. I am starting to think about an Obama presidency and really... what does one look like? Does anyone know? I am trying to visualize him making sweeping uber-liberal change and I just can't imagine that he has that influence when it's time for the rubber to meet the road.


have you seen "Metropolis" ?
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 26, 2008, 03:03:38 PM
agreed.  BHO will rue his stance on drilling.

or maybe he's too arrogant to realize there are some of his asinine ideas that people don't like.

he won't back off that position.

he seems to be incapable of admitting that he is wrong. his whole position on meeting with terrorist
heads of state was actually a simple matter of an incorrect answer in a debate, but instead of just
admitting his blunder the next day, he has turned it into a major part of his foreign policy (or what
he has of one).

it's probably also going to prevent him from moderating his position on the war in iraq.  he just can't
seem to admit that he is wrong about anything.




he may do what he's already done which is to back off and claim that its not a flip flop at all.

he's already held 3 different positions on cut-n-run and I expect more.

he tried to back off the no-preconditions but was not allowed to so gave it up.

but his arrogance is quite strong and will not allow him to admit wrong.  which is funny if you recall an interview he did some time ago saying one of his strengths was his ability to be shown to be wrong, learning from it and moving on.

he's such a loser

Oh but what a coup it would be for McCain to win the election and renounce all things liberal and become so staunchly conservative it would make Reagan blush.... I fantasize about this often.  :uhsure:

I would be happy if, after he was elected, he only pissed me off once a week. :whatever: :-)

I hear you. I am starting to think about an Obama presidency and really... what does one look like? Does anyone know? I am trying to visualize him making sweeping uber-liberal change and I just can't imagine that he has that influence when it's time for the rubber to meet the road.

that's just the thing.  it will look like anything they want it to look like.  think "teenagers left alone for the weekend when their parents go out of town". :-)
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: miskie on June 26, 2008, 06:36:33 PM
He will change his stance on the oil thing -- by stating something to the effect of, he will consider it if there is tight regulatory and environmental control to minimize any profiteering and environmental damage, and that McCain's proposal doesn't insure any of this.

Of course this will never come to pass - He knows it, but it allows him to butter up his fans.
Title: Re: Gallup Daily: Obama, McCain Tied at 45%
Post by: Miss Mia on June 27, 2008, 12:19:48 PM
Interesting poll came out of Texas yesterday.
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"Freshman U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, a Republican, leads Democratic challenger Rick
Noriega in the poll, but the margin is slim and a large number of voters haven't
made up their minds. Cornyn had the support of 38% of the likely voters in the
survey, to Noriega's 36%, with 24% saying they're not committed to either
candidate."

They also did the Presidential match up

Quote
Republican John McCain would beat Democrat Barack Obama in Texas if the
race were held now. But a significant number of Texans said they haven't picked
a favorite yet. Among likely voters, McCain had the support of 43% of those
polled to 38% for Obama. Libertarian Bob Barr and independent Ralph Nader
had about 1% each. One of every six voters — 17% — said they haven't decided
who will get their vote in November.

Texas Lyceum Poll (http://www.texaslyceum.org/media/staticContent/PubCon_Journals/2008/National%20Summary%20_day%202_%20final.pdf)