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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on November 24, 2013, 03:12:08 PM
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MineralMan (59,091 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024086611
The key to most conspiracy theories comes down to one statement:
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"The government is keeping secrets and won't give us the truth."
Since it's impossible to prove that statement is incorrect, it is always part of conspiracy theories. By saying that, the implication is that if only the government would release the truth, we'd all know that the conspiracy theory is correct.
UFOs
Area 51
JFK's Assassination
FEMA Camps
9/11 Truthers
TWA Flight 800
Since the statement can't be proven wrong, the conspiracy theorists simple restate it again and again, as if it were evidence that proves their theory. By making the statement, any sort of argument can be made that cannot be proven to be false.
Aliens from outer space are visiting us.
The Government has a crashed UFO.
A nefarious plot involving whoever you like was involved in Kennedy's assassination.
The government has built top-secret FEMA camps to imprison "enemies of the state."
9/11 wasn't caused by two aircraft crashed into those buildings. It's something else.
Missiles shot down TWA Flight 800, and it's being kept secret.
None of the statements above can be disproven, so the conspiracy theories must be true. It's a simple logical flaw, and one that has been used just about forever to convince people that a conspiracy exists, and it's being kept a secret from us.
That's it in a nutshell. That's why DU has a Creative Speculation group. That's why conspiracy theories belong in that group, and not in GD, in my opinion.
MineralMan (59,091 posts)
3. Exactly.
Kind of like "faith is the evidence of things unseen." Bad logic.
So... the key to DU is saying shit that cannot be proved, and thus, by not being proved, proves to the DUmpmonkiez... it is true.
Think about it...
9/11 obvious government plot aided by Israelis
Buch lied us into Iraq and Afghanistan
Koch Brothers controlling media
Republicans are Racists.
TEA party is Astroturf and not real
Right Wing wants gun violence to keep minorities down.
etc, etc etc...
MineralMan (59,091 posts)
11. Actually, I do trust unless I am proven to be incorrect with
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actual evidence. The Warren Commission Report, which I read from front to back, made sense. I'm not interested in speculation about that event. Sorry.
Look at the list of events I presented. Which do you things are not as they are described? Why do you think that? If it's based on something that could have happened, rather than evidence, then I'm not interested. Almost anything could happen. Demonstrating that it did requires actual evidence to that effect, not speculation.
Wait... isn't this the exact opposite he was talking about in the OP?
polichick (32,706 posts)
34. Since 60% of Americans don't buy the official story...
It's not exactly a far-fetched conspiracy situation. Free speech is a good thing, right? And we wouldn't want to sideline something so many people are interested in, right?
Somehow this turned into a JFK thread.. or maybe it always was one.. it's DU... who knows...
MineralMan (59,091 posts)
37. Poll results are not evidence of much of anything.
80% of Americans believe that deities exist. Belief is not evidence of anything but belief.
Sorry, but poll results are not that useful when it comes to the truth or falsity of an argument.
Wait... what? Is he changing his position again?
MineralMan (59,091 posts)
33. JFK conspiracy theories were not the subject of my post.
Conspiracy theories in general were the subject of my post. The recent discussions of the JFK assassination on the 50th anniversary of it got me thinking about conspiracy theories. Please reread my OP. It's not about the JFK assassination theories. It's about conspiracy theories in general.
He just randomly wrote a thread about CTs on the JFK annerv. date... Theya re not related...
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I think mineral man has been contemplating his navel again.
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He spends way too much time in that dark, smelly, unfinished basement.
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UFOs
Area 51
JFK's Assassination
FEMA Camps
9/11 Truthers
TWA Flight 800
He forgot the BFEE. It's fair game along with the ones he listed.
For some reason, though, he'd be banned if he included chemtrails.
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He forgot the BFEE. It's fair game along with the ones he listed.
For some reason, though, he'd be banned if he included chemtrails.
Oh, they're suckers for a good rumor about the Koch brothers. Yep, the DUmmies are real Koch suckers.
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #11)Sun Nov 24, 2013, 03:20 PM
polichick (32,711 posts)
16. I take everything the gov't says with a big grain of salt...
There are far too any special interests involved in every issue.
You can't prove any official story is true - and many people think other explanations make as much or more sense as the official story.
People can think for themselves - we don't have to be good little pawns.
Like that whole if you like your plan, you can keep your plan thing?
If a democrat says it, the DUmmies swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
The idiots think that Valerie Plamegate was a conspiracy.
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Like that whole if you like your plan, you can keep your plan thing?
If a democrat says it, the DUmmies swallow it hook, line, and sinker.
The idiots think that Valerie Plamegate was a conspiracy.
They don't trust repukes when they tell the truth, but they believe any lie spewed by the dems. If 0bama said chocolate rations were increased and they can plainly see they have less chocolate they blame the repukes and say we are lying about how much chocolate there is.
Hey DUmmies I know you think me using chocolate is racist, but it's not. Go read 1984 by George Orwell.
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MineralMan (59,091 posts)
3. Exactly.
Kind of like "faith is the evidence of things unseen." Bad logic.
The rock primitive just shouts out loud that he doesn't understand logic.
The actual words are "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" and it's perfectly logical. There are plenty of things the scientific community admits exist, both large and small, but no human has ever seen these things.
The rock primitive is even more stupid than I already knew he was.
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Obama hides his real birth certificate and school records and the DUmmie can't understand why I think it's a conspiracy.
The truth shall set you free.....and probably boot Obama outta the white house.
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Strange that the DUmbasses don`t seem to care about how the administration has silenced the survivors of Benghazi.