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Title: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: Mike220 on November 21, 2013, 11:32:05 AM
Anyone else remember when invoking the nuclear option was tantamount to installing a Nazi dictatorship? In fact, I remember Dingy Harry the Pederast saying he would never consider it as leader. What happened?

CNN (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/21/harry-reid-likely-to-go-nuclear-today/?hpt=hp_t1)

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Washington (CNN) - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, frustrated by Republicans who have been blocking President Barack Obama's nominees, Thursday moved to introduce the so-called nuclear option.

The controversial move is a rules change that could make a partisan environment even more divisive because it would take away a sacrosanct right for any party in the Senate minority–the right to filibuster.

"That's why it's time to get the Senate working again," Reid said. "Not for the good of the current Democratic majority or some future Republican majority, but for the good of the United States of America. It's time to change. It's time to change the Senate before this institution becomes obsolete."
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: redwhit on November 21, 2013, 12:37:54 PM
Truly a banner year.  Obama broke the health system and Harry Reid broke our republican form of government.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: Eupher on November 21, 2013, 12:58:29 PM
As I understand it, Barry and his henchmen are highly pissed off since Barry's candydates for the DC Appellate Court (all 4 of them) have been torpedoed by Republicans.

For good reason.

Barry's been kicked in the balls several times by the D.C. Appellate court and they're sore. (His balls, not the henchmen.)

So he wants to frontload more of his henchmen into that court so the court will stop kicking him in the balls. And since the Repubs aren't cooperating by just rolling over and playing dead when Barry wants to frontload that court and shitcan his nominees, Dingy's now doing his part by pulling out the nuke option.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/29/battle-brewing-over-obama-nominations-to-crucial-dc-appeals-court/
Title: Re: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: txradioguy on November 21, 2013, 01:05:55 PM
Well now we know who inherited John Kerry 's flip flops.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: GOP Congress on November 21, 2013, 01:26:08 PM
When the GOP is elected for the majority in 2014, they will repeal the filibuster rule before the 2015 inaugurations.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: marv on November 21, 2013, 01:27:24 PM
It's done now. The Federal courts were the real reason. Now there's a bulls eye on these courts, as well as all Americans. God help us!
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 21, 2013, 01:55:16 PM
When the GOP is elected for the majority in 2014, they will repeal the filibuster rule before the 2015 inaugurations.
Why would republicans want to change it back. The democrats changed it so 51 votes does the dirty deed, right? So if republicans get 51 seats then they will control things and the 49 democrats be damned. With the damn RINOs in the mix it might be sticky sometimes but then after 2016, not so much. 
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: MoshMasterD on November 21, 2013, 02:32:27 PM
This could be a good thing and I'll tell ya why.  If and when a republican gets elected in the presidency, no longer would a litmus test be used by the democrats over "a woman's right to choose", this nuclear option has spelled the death of Roe v. Wade.  It is now a matter of time.  Thank you dipshits for shooting yourselves in the foot.  They should've heeded Robert KKK Byrd's warning.

Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: thundley4 on November 21, 2013, 03:57:55 PM
When the GOP is elected for the majority in 2014, they will repeal the filibuster rule before the 2015 inaugurations.

Reid already took care of that.  It's a temporary change affecting on the the current congress. If the GOP wins the senate, they would have to go and change the rule again.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 21, 2013, 04:12:51 PM
Reid already took care of that.  It's a temporary change affecting on the the current congress. If the GOP wins the senate, they would have to go and change the rule again.
Makes me want to grease the bottom of his shoes......especially the one that in the grave yet.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 21, 2013, 05:28:08 PM
I hope the GOP has the balls to invoke the same 'Temporary rule' for the Congressional Session the next time they gain the majority as payback, but I doubt if do.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: NHSparky on November 21, 2013, 05:35:10 PM
I hope the GOP has the balls to invoke the same 'Temporary rule' for the Congressional Session the next time they gain the majority as payback, but I doubt if do.

Doubt?  Hell, they had a lot more reason to in 2003-06, and still pussed out.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: FlaGator on November 21, 2013, 05:46:20 PM
Harry Reid has set a precedent that is going to come back and haunt dems for years to come. When the conservative gain control of the Senate in 2014 Obama can kiss any future judicial appointment goodbye.

The libs will moan forgetting that they brought this on themselves.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: Maxiest on November 21, 2013, 05:50:20 PM
Reid in 2008 on the nuclear option:

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“As long as I am the Leader, the answer’s no,” he said. “I think we should just forget that. That is a black chapter in the history of the Senate. I hope we never, ever get to that again because I really do believe it will ruin our country.

Another fun fact:

The Senate has approved more than 1,500 executive nominations since Obama took office.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: obumazombie on November 21, 2013, 08:41:44 PM
Reid in 2008 on the nuclear option:

Another fun fact:

The Senate has approved more than 1,500 executive nominations since Obama took office.
Every single one of the biggest libs including rodeowebuma opposed the nuclear option when they were in the minority.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 21, 2013, 09:25:09 PM
Now the DUmmies are going nuts because the Republicans foiled the evil plan by not showing up at the necessary committee meetings in order to prevent there being the required quorum.  Have to give it to McConnell on that one, he couldn't can't stop the bastards from changing the filibuster rule, so he served them up a heaping dose of their own rule-playing gamesmanship.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: biersmythe on November 21, 2013, 09:35:51 PM
Our founding fathers would probably just shoot all involved...and I'm good with that.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: DefiantSix on November 22, 2013, 08:07:27 AM
Now the DUmmies are going nuts because the Republicans foiled the evil plan by not showing up at the necessary committee meetings in order to prevent there being the required quorum.  Have to give it to McConnell on that one, he couldn't can't stop the bastards from changing the filibuster rule, so he served them up a heaping dose of their own rule-playing gamesmanship.

Ultimately, I don't believe that McConnell, McCain, et.al, are all that unhappy that the Dhimmi'Rats have pulled the trigger on this.  After all, assuming our optimism for the 2014 midterms is warranted, they now do not have to go through a very public internacine fight in order to muzzle the Mike Lees, Ted Cruzes and Rand Pauls of the party.  All they have to do is carry over Comrade Harry's rules change, nice and quietly, as presently enacted. They don't have to get their spineless little hands dirty at all.

I've seen plenty of innerwebz comments asking the Republican RINO branch if they still think "reaching across the aisle" was a good idea: I'm sure they think it was a great idea, because the pedarast Harry Reid just handed his RINO butt buddies an early Christmas present, and ensured their - continued - slobbering devotion to him and his for years to come.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: Dori on November 22, 2013, 08:20:07 AM
I don't think they are going to use this rule on just judicial  nominations. 
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: Eupher on November 22, 2013, 08:39:42 AM
I don't think they are going to use this rule on just judicial  nominations. 

Bingo. Which is why they call it "nuclear."
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: obumazombie on November 22, 2013, 08:46:49 AM
George Will thinks there is a good chance this nuclear option getting rammed through by the libs will backfire. In 2017 owebumacare could be repealed. If it does get repealed, hopefully there will be minimal damage, and that it can be easily repaired.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: txradioguy on November 22, 2013, 09:06:13 AM
I don't think they are going to use this rule on just judicial  nominations. 

And right on cue:

Harkin calls for more rule changes

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/191086-harkin-calls-for-more-rule-changes
Title: Re: Re: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: DLR Pyro on November 22, 2013, 09:10:34 AM
Reid already took care of that.  It's a temporary change affecting on the the current congress. If the GOP wins the senate, they would have to go and change the rule again.
and there's proof the the dems know they can't ever win without rigging the deck.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: Mike220 on November 22, 2013, 09:25:24 AM
And right on cue:

Harkin calls for more rule changes

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/191086-harkin-calls-for-more-rule-changes

The arrogance is astounding. Especially since these same morons were just crying about this a few years ago.

About time to find a place in the mountains and tell the world to **** off.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: Dori on November 22, 2013, 09:35:05 AM
If it does get repealed, hopefully there will be minimal damage, and that it can be easily repaired.

These policies are going into effect Jan 1st, unless they pull it back before then.  If they don't, there is going to be so much confusion and unhappiness when people start trying to get into see their doctors, especially those going through cancer care or some such illness.  I think that 2014 is going to be a very turbulent year.

New Hampshire has one whole county that doesn't even have a hospital covered by Obamacare.  People are going to have to travel 75 miles. 

Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on November 22, 2013, 09:39:55 AM
Ultimately, I don't believe that McConnell, McCain, et.al, are all that unhappy that the Dhimmi'Rats have pulled the trigger on this.  After all, assuming our optimism for the 2014 midterms is warranted, they now do not have to go through a very public internacine fight in order to muzzle the Mike Lees, Ted Cruzes and Rand Pauls of the party.  All they have to do is carry over Comrade Harry's rules change, nice and quietly, as presently enacted. They don't have to get their spineless little hands dirty at all.

I've seen plenty of innerwebz comments asking the Republican RINO branch if they still think "reaching across the aisle" was a good idea: I'm sure they think it was a great idea, because the pedarast Harry Reid just handed his RINO butt buddies an early Christmas present, and ensured their - continued - slobbering devotion to him and his for years to come.

Yeah that D6, is McCain up this time around?  Thought he wasn't coming up for awhile yet.  As much as the GOP should tit-for-tat the Dems on this for the same period of time that it stands when the worm eventually does turn, I'm sure McCain and the RINOs will tube any effort in that direction.  Of course, there were three dems who voted against this BS, but then again Reid wouldn't have tried it unless he knew he had enough caucus votes to pass it, so whether they really had an independent stand on it or were merely allowed to look like they did is open for debate.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: GOP Congress on November 22, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
NY Times was AGAINST the filibuster ban before it was FOR it...

2005...

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Walking in the Opposition's Shoes

Published: March 29, 2005

The Senate will return from Easter vacation with nuclear options on its mind. Republicans seem determined to change the rules so Democrats will no longer be able to stop judicial nominations with the threat of a filibuster. If they're acting out of frustration, it's understandable. In the past we've been frustrated when legislators tried to stop important bills from passing by resorting to the same tactic. The filibuster, which allows 41 senators to delay action indefinitely, is a rough instrument that should be used with caution. But its existence goes to the center of the peculiar but effective form of government America cherishes.

Read more... (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/29/opinion/29tue1.html?_r=0)


...and 2013

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Democracy Returns to the Senate
By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
Published: November 21, 2013

For five years, Senate Republicans have refused to allow confirmation votes on dozens of perfectly qualified candidates nominated by President Obama for government positions. They tried to nullify entire federal agencies by denying them leaders. They abused Senate rules past the point of tolerance or responsibility. And so they were left enraged and threatening revenge on Thursday when a majority did the only logical thing and stripped away their power to block the president’s nominees.

Read more... (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/22/opinion/democracy-returns-to-the-senate.html?_r=0)

Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 22, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
NY Times was AGAINST the filibuster ban before it was FOR it...

2005...

...and 2013


SHOCKING!!! (not)
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: Freeper on November 22, 2013, 07:38:03 PM
The democrats had to do this to counter the gerrymandered senate districts created by the GOP.
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: DefiantSix on November 22, 2013, 08:41:42 PM
The democrats had to do this to counter the gerrymandered senate districts created by the GOP.

:thatsright:

[youtube=425,350]www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0[/youtube]

:cheers1:
Title: Re: Reid moves toward invoking nuclear option in Senate
Post by: NHSparky on November 23, 2013, 02:50:56 PM

New Hampshire has one whole county that doesn't even have a hospital covered by Obamacare.  People are going to have to travel 75 miles. 



More like 125 miles.