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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on November 18, 2013, 02:51:31 AM
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This is how sad they have become.
Read the following OP which concerns Nancy Pelosi appearing on a Sunday talk show with host David Gregory and see if you can tell what technique has been used to succor the bruised egos and worried minds of the Proglodytes by allowing them to trumpet a rhetorical victory:
CatWoman (68,731 posts)
Nancy Pelosi Guts David Gregory’s Republican Talking Points and ACA Lies
The point of the whole interview for Gregory wasn’t to be objective. His introduction to show said that the White House was shaken, there was a crisis of confidence in the president, and Democrats were abandoning him. Gregory had his narrative, and he wasn’t interested in the facts about what is really going on.
Gregory tried to get Pelosi on the Democrats defecting from Obama, but the Democratic leader used facts to shoot that down. He tried gotcha journalism with a video clip, but Pelosi explained why what she said was true. David Gregory even got part of the healthcare law wrong when he claimed that the law mandated that junk policies had to be canceled, and he was corrected by Rep. Pelosi.
The problem for the media is that this story is quickly running out of life. The media is going along with Republicans in pushing the belief that the website will never be fixed. They are assuming that the website will remain broken, because their story is pointless if they have to admit that this is a short term problem that is improving by the day. Obama’s presidency can’t be in crisis is the website is being fixed, so they have to pretend like it isn’t.
Nancy Pelosi didn’t play games with David Gregory. She shot down his BS, and gutted his attempt push a false story about a crisis that exists only in the minds of the mainstream media. The truth is that the news is slow, so the media decided to blow the website issues up into a presidency destroying moment.
Democrats know that once people sign up for the ACA, they will like it. They also know that if Republicans want to run in November 2014 on a website that has been fixed for ten months, they are more than happy to let them.
Nancy Pelosi gave Democrats a road map for handling media over the next couple of weeks. No retreat, no surrender, and no apologies for making the healthcare system better for hundreds of millions of people.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/11/17/nancy-pelosi-guts-david-gregorys-republican-talking-points-aca-lies.html
Answer is written between the asterisks, highlight to reveal.
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The article spends a lot of time claiming what Gregory said was BS and that Pelosi "used facts" but not once does it provide a direct citation of anything anyone said. In fact, the entire article could have been written before the interview took place considering the absolute absence of source material.
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Nancy Pelosi wouldn't know the truth if it hit her in the face, and trust me, NOTHING will want to come near that face!!!
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The lies they have to tell themselves.
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The main technique was to kill the messenger...in this case make a left wing hack like David Gregory out to be the mouthpiece for the RNC.
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I'm not too familiar with that site in the OP, but the sycophancy of the author is nauseating. There were 46 comments, nearly all DUmmie in nature, except for one:
Gregory destroys the Messiah
Sun, Nov 17th, 2013 at 9:13 pm
A special Epic Fail moment by Pelosi. Go ahead,
Keep spinning this all you want but the truth
Is she was destroyed. It’s funny how you
had no problem with Gregory helping put
a dagger in Romney.
Why is it all of you who had a
Question Authority sticker on your
Volvos tore them off?
Well, it’s your turn to be questioned.
Bwa ha ha ha ha!!!! You still refuse
To wipe egg off your faces so just
Savor the smell as it rots before your
Noses.
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My answer was essentially the same as your observation, and that is it's being played as obamacare being just fine, the corporate media is just shilling for the 1%, but once it's implemented the American people will love it. They've been on this kick for a while, and no doubt as things continue to not materialize as they desire the excuses will also need to accelerate.
What they can't control is what kills them. They want so badly for people to view the insurance they've had for years as being "junk." What they don't realize is essentially they're telling people that they've been purchasing junk for years and were too stupid to realize it, and somehow that isn't supposed to insult them. The hubris is expected from the left, and the blindness to how others see them hasn't changed either. But when John & Jane American are sitting around their dinner table looking at their circumstances and trying to figure out how they're going to make it work, the liberals can't stand over them and try to force them to see it they way they want them to see it, and that absolutely eats them alive.
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Democrats know that once people sign up for the ACA, they will like it.
Wow...there isn't a bait and switch hook they won't swallow.
Let's see. What part are they going to like?
The thousand dollar a month premiums?
The twelve thousand dollar out of pocket cost?
The loss of choice in doctors and hospitals?
The long appointment waits?
The inferior quality of care?
Those are the people who won't be happy about Obamacare. You know, the people that Obamacare needs to pay for the whole mess. I wonder how happy they will be on election day.
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Gregory destroys the Messiah
A special Epic Fail moment by Pelosi. Go ahead,
Keep spinning this all you want but the truth
Is she was destroyed. It’s funny how you
had no problem with Gregory helping put
a dagger in Romney.
Why is it all of you who had a
Question Authority sticker on your
Volvos tore them off?
Well, it’s your turn to be questioned.
Bwa ha ha ha ha!!!! You still refuse
To wipe egg off your faces so just
Savor the smell as it rots before your
Noses.
Hey! Is that a new CalPig poem?
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Why is it all of you who had a
Question Authority sticker on your
Volvos Prius tore them off?
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I'm reminded of a Cheech and Chong skit.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY7ZX6ngOSs[/youtube]
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owebumacare, what's not to hate ?
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I have come to the conclusion that at this point if Obama himself came out and said something like "Ok, everyone... I really screwed up signing this bill and I will now work to repeal it" they would freak out and say that somehow the RNC got to him or that he was being blackmailed by the Tea Party.
I often sit back mouth wide open in absolute bewilderment on the blind following of Obama, and I know it's there, but at this point I think it is the blind following of their screwed up ideology they follow more than anything. I think if anyone goes against their little European socialist agenda ideology they will eat them up and spit them out. I don't care if it is Hillary, Obama, Kerry, or insert popular Dem here ____. We saw it last week with Bill Clinton. Of course he was going against the Great One, but still the same would happen if he said something against their little utopia.
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I have come to the conclusion that at this point if Obama himself came out and said something like "Ok, everyone... I really screwed up signing this bill and I will now work to repeal it" they would freak out and say that somehow the RNC got to him or that he was being blackmailed by the Tea Party.
No.
If he said that, they would say, "Brilliant!"
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No.
If he said that, they would say, "Brilliant!"
If obozo had advocated for repeal of the 13th Amendment and re-enslavement of Blacks (which obozocare pretty much does btw) the Blacks would have still voted 90% for him and the rest of the libs > 70%.
Time and time again it has been proved that his support came and comes from pure racism.