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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on November 16, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
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Star Member last1standing (10,358 posts)
This flippant attitude toward those harmed by the ACA will cost us 2014.
Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:08 AM - Edit history (1)
I'm a Democrat because I grew up believing that a high tide raises all boats. I believe that when the least among us suffers, we all suffer as a society. That goes for the poor, minorities, the differently abled.... and yes, those who are harmed when the government makes mistakes.
I've read how "uninformed" people are - in fact, there's a cute little picture making fun of them on DU's homepage right now. I've read how it's only a small minority that will feel the effects of the raise. I've read how they're all wealthy young people who don't want to pay their share. I've read how those who have to pay more should STFU because so many more will do better.
Well, all that is bullshit if there is a group of people who will be forced to choose between insurance and rent. And there will be.
There is a minority, yes a small minority, of people who make just enough to lose out on the subsidies provided by the ACA who are not covered their employers. And of this group, a sizable portion will fall within the dreaded 55-62 age bracket where the insurance companies can still gouge for outrageously costly policies. These are the people who now have shitty catastrophic plans because they can't afford anything else. They certainly can't afford an increase in their bills amounting to hundreds of dollars per month.
These are the people who will lose out on what little insurance they have and be charged a fine for their loss.
A faulty website means nothing in the long run. A week after it's fixed no one will remember it was ever down. But real people will be hurt by ACA if there is not a fix for those middle-aged people just making ends meet who will lose what little safety net they had because "good" Democrats care more about looking good than helping them.
These are the people that the republicans will have on TV day in and day out to talk about how the Democrats mocked their suffering.
I know this post won't be popular, but a real Democrat doesn't mock the suffering of others, they try to help them. It looks like some Dems are figuring this out - but not nearly enough, yet.
When 2014 comes around, it will be decided on whether the people of this country believe that Democrats can solve the problems that face so many, or if we are tied to 'big government' solutions that only help bureaucrats.
Right now, there's a group of citizens afraid that Reagan was right when he said the scariest words a person can hear are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." They're not worried about a website, they're frightened of losing what little they have.
We can be the party of uncaring big government or the party of solutions. Which will we choose?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024041677
Another lousy freeper troll.
LAGC (4,720 posts)
1. I guess it will just come down to how many uninsured people are able to get affordable insurance...
...versus the relatively few who lose their shitty plans and have to upgrade or pay the penalty.
I'm thinking the former will far outweigh the latter. But whether that translates into more votes for Democrats remains to be seen.
Off-year elections tend to favor the party who doesn't hold the presidency, so we have that working against us.
The shitty policy meme is still being pushed.
PhilosopherKing (234 posts)
2. No it won't
Democrats need to chill.
This DUmmy is right, the dems have nothing to fear, the same low information voters who put them in office last time, will happily put them right back in. Maybe they will get lucky and Rush will call someone a slut again and get all this out of the news cycle soon.
Star Member last1standing (10,358 posts)
9. Yes. Chilling should take care of everything.
I'm sure when it comes time to vote, those finding themselves having to pay a fine for not being able to afford insurance will pull the lever for the 'kewl candidate."
We need to reduce your koolaid rations from 8 ounces to 10 ounces so you will get with the program man.
scheming daemons (21,863 posts)
21. and those millions that have insurance for the first time ever
Will more than make up for them.
Your post was about the impact on elections.
In other words the block of voters the democrats have locked up for eternity won't vote against them.
One good thing to come from all this is the squabbling of the DUmmies, as usual the truth is pissing them off so they have to double down on the lies.
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I have yet to see one, just one, illustration of a sh**y plan.
Not one single description. Nothing.
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They're so stupid. Who did they think was going to pay for this debacle? The rich? It's the struggling middleclass, dumbasses.
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They're so stupid. Who did they think was going to pay for this debacle? The rich? It's the struggling middleclass, dumbasses.
They never think that far ahead, they simply want it now, they want it for free, and you damned well better give it to them.
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In their sick little minds, everyone hurt by barrycare deserves it. Thank god these punks can't lie as well as dear leader.
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This flippant attitude toward those harmed by the ACA will cost us 2014
Why wait a year, DUmbshit? It's costing you NOW. Your bastard politicians are over $20 million in the hole (http://www.gop.com/news/gop-blog/who-is-running-the-dnc/), and their creditors are reluctant to keep giving them money, because they see no end in sight.
Keep this up and in all likelihood, the 2014 mid-terms will be the biggest non-event in your otherwise pathetic, miserable moocher lives.
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Why wait a year, DUmbshit? It's costing you NOW. Your bastard politicians are over $20 million in the hole (http://www.gop.com/news/gop-blog/who-is-running-the-dnc/), and their creditors are reluctant to keep giving them money, because they see no end in sight.
Keep this up and in all likelihood, the 2014 mid-terms will be the biggest non-event in your otherwise pathetic, miserable moocher lives.
Very interesting article, thanks. Looks like all the money is going into OFA so they can pick the congressional winners and losers. Jarret has to control everything.
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Star Member last1standing (10,358 posts)
This flippant attitude toward those harmed by the ACA will cost us 2014.
Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2013, 12:08 AM - Edit history (1)
I'm a Democrat because I grew up believing that a high tide raises all boats. I believe that when the least among us suffers, we all suffer as a society. That goes for the poor, minorities, the differently abled.... and yes, those who are harmed when the government makes mistakes.
I've read how "uninformed" people are - in fact, there's a cute little picture making fun of them on DU's homepage right now. I've read how it's only a small minority that will feel the effects of the raise. I've read how they're all wealthy young people who don't want to pay their share. I've read how those who have to pay more should STFU because so many more will do better.
Well, all that is bullshit if there is a group of people who will be forced to choose between insurance and rent. And there will be.
There is a minority, yes a small minority, of people who make just enough to lose out on the subsidies provided by the ACA who are not covered their employers. And of this group, a sizable portion will fall within the dreaded 55-62 age bracket where the insurance companies can still gouge for outrageously costly policies. These are the people who now have shitty catastrophic plans because they can't afford anything else. They certainly can't afford an increase in their bills amounting to hundreds of dollars per month.
These are the people who will lose out on what little insurance they have and be charged a fine for their loss.
A faulty website means nothing in the long run. A week after it's fixed no one will remember it was ever down. But real people will be hurt by ACA if there is not a fix for those middle-aged people just making ends meet who will lose what little safety net they had because "good" Democrats care more about looking good than helping them.
These are the people that the republicans will have on TV day in and day out to talk about how the Democrats mocked their suffering.
I know this post won't be popular, but a real Democrat doesn't mock the suffering of others, they try to help them. It looks like some Dems are figuring this out - but not nearly enough, yet.
When 2014 comes around, it will be decided on whether the people of this country believe that Democrats can solve the problems that face so many, or if we are tied to 'big government' solutions that only help bureaucrats.
Right now, there's a group of citizens afraid that Reagan was right when he said the scariest words a person can hear are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." They're not worried about a website, they're frightened of losing what little they have.
We can be the party of uncaring big government or the party of solutions. Which will we choose?
My mole? You decide.
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It is not a flippant attitude toward those harmed by the ACA that will cost the dems in 2014 (although that adds to the price to be paid). It's the fact that the ACA is probably the worse piece of legislation ever passed by Congress (and I'm considering prohibition in this statement) and only dems voted for it that is going to cost them dearly in 2014. I suspect that republican candidate will hammer this fact home every change they get.
It is the fact that the President along with Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi had to bribe many of their comrades with tax payer dollars and lie their butts off to get the bill passed that is going to cause the balance of power to change in the Senate.
If I were a candidate I would remind people of Nancy Pelosi's "You have to vote for the bill to find out what is in it" comment and ask them how they like the bill now that they know what is in it. Barak, Harry and Nancy along with the rest of the dems sold America a huge bottle of snake oil for the sake of the 'legacy' of the first 'African American' President.