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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SarasotaRepub on November 14, 2013, 06:53:45 PM
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Thu Nov 14, 2013, 07:20 PM
pintobean (10,435 posts)
Taverner has been PPRed
Nov 14, 2013 While his account was flagged for review, Taverner created multiple sockpuppet accounts for the purpose of disrupting DU and sent a series of insulting emails to the Administrators.
EarlG (Administrator)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=142485&sub=trans
HAHAHAHAHA!!! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024035078)
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They don't go gently into that good night.
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I'm gonna miss that idiot.
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:rofl: Maybe he will pay us a visit!
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:rofl: Maybe he will pay us a visit!
Doubtful, but . . . wouldn't that be a hoot!
"Hey, Tav . . . could you explain what the upside of heroin is?" :stoner:
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NuclearDem (5,024 posts)
4. That's unfortunate. Disruptive behavior aside, he actually stood for something.
Put the Underground in DemocraticUndergroud.
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This spelling error cracked me up! Taverner WAS the Underground in the Undergroud! Maybe NuclearDem is a Nadin sock puppet!
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They got Another_Macintosh today, too, for trying to tamp down the hysteria over that pic of open carry supporters in Texas. Not a top tier DUmmy, but he had five figures worth of posts under his belt.
The admins claim to tolerate 2A supporters, but if one starts spanking gun grabbers too bad, Lord Marblehead will deliver the pizza. Meanwhile, the hysterical idiot gun grabbers can be as abusive as they want with no fear of repercussions.
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NuclearDem (5,024 posts)
4. That's unfortunate. Disruptive behavior aside, he actually stood for something.
He did? Like what, DUmmie? :lmao:
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So Taverner got the Iron Handshake from Skinner? Makes me nervous for the future, not knowing when his next musical release will hit the interwebs.
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Oh, rest easy, ladies and germs--like a bad case of TiT, he'll be back.
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My mole outlived Taverner
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My mole outlived Taverner
Does he/she have a prairie bird personna ?
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LINKO (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024035078)
pintobean (10,449 posts)
Taverner has been PPRed
Nov 14, 2013 While his account was flagged for review, Taverner created multiple sockpuppet accounts for the purpose of disrupting DU and sent a series of insulting emails to the Administrators.
EarlG (Administrator)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=142485&sub=trans
Things can only get better!!!
:couch:
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I'm gonna miss that idiot.
May not have to miss him. I'm sure he's gonna go on a rant on that FB page.
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So Taverner got the Iron Handshake from Skinner? Makes me nervous for the future, not knowing when his next musical release will hit the interwebs.
You say that as if it's a bad thing.
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I'm sure he was just one of those paid right wing trolls. :rotf:
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sabrina 1 (39,405 posts)
173. Me too, TeeYiYi. It is unsettling. Progressives appear to be unwelcome in the Dem Party. I could
be wrong I suppose, but someone will have to convince me. I miss the progressives who used to post here. I assume they have found 'higher ground'. I too am seeking places where Progressives are welcome and not constantly under attack.
However, RL is probably where we Progressives are more likely to be effective.
Taverner was one of the good guys. It says a lot when a real progressive is considered a troll, while I could name a few here who are obviously right wing trolls continue to post without fear of being PPR'd. Maybe it really is time to move on to more effective Progressive venues.
She's quite the martyr.
TeeYiYi (5,230 posts)
220. Taverner's PPR...
...has been conflated into a supposed multi-sock carnival of cunning chicanery; when in fact, Tavener states on DUfacebook that he 'only created ONE sock.' A sock for communication in the face of suddenly finding himself banished. It is my understanding that he was honest about his intentions regarding that one 'sock.'
In that Taverner is a long time DUer, it is not a 'Twister stretch' to give him the benefit of the doubt regarding his motives in this situation.
In the interest of honesty and fairness, it is my opinion that DU could use a little 'light of day' transparency disinfectant as we move forward through 2014 and on toward 2016. I say, "Make the super secret MIRT forum readable to all," so that DUers can observe the 'man behind the curtain' holding the ban hammer and not be relegated to speculating, with dread, the hypothetical intent behind his/her theoretical existence.
TYY
winter is coming (3,454 posts)
257. Then Taverner must be psychic because that sock was created a week before he was flagged for review.
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The YellowSnow sock http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=308860 was created on 10/21 and Taverner was active until 10/29. MIRT didn't know he'd been flagged for review until he used the YellowSnow sock on 11/11 and we initially thought it was a troll pretending to be Taverner.
MIRT doesn't have the power to put anyone on review, and we only ban newbies. The "super secret MIRT forum" is accessible to anyone willing to serve a term, an experience I encourage every DUer to consider. The transparency you desire would mean handing trolls a set of tips about what they should do to be less recognizable, so I doubt that will ever happen. There's no oath of secrecy, though, so if you look back through the old threads in the Announcements forum, you'll see lists of MIRTers, past and present. Perhaps you trust one of them enough to ask what MIRT is like.
Oooooh! BURN!
Who would have thought a Proglodyte would ahve lied to get sympathy about how mean the world is to him rather than accept responsibility for his own actions.
Of course Tav's fellow Proglodytes will accept the truth, right?
TeeYiYi (5,230 posts)
273. Perhaps he created the sock...
...when he realized that he was being alert stalked.
I don't know Taverner personally. All of my opinions are conjecture. I still hope that he gets reinstated.
Upon further consideration, I agree that the Host/MIRT forums should remain cloaked from public scrutiny. I do, however, still believe that admin considers the opinions and conversations held within the private forums when making ppr decisions.
TYY
No, he doesn't accept truth, he has to spin it.
However, it is illuminating that they have "alert-stalking"
IOW: Proglodytes know they can harass each other to use the "force of law" to silence opinions they do not approve of.
Inside every Proglodyte is an authoritarian screaming to get out.
Back to Purina1's martyrdom.
The conspiracy grows:
woo me with science (23,082 posts)
182. Well said. And the swarming and disruption from corporate mouthpieces is not just evident at DU.
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It is pervasive in previously liberal meeting places across the internet, which shows what a massive, orchestrated creation it really is.
It's simply creepy, and it demonstrates for people first-hand how sick and deep and pervasive the authoritarianism being constructed around us really is. We see it not only in the unthinkable mass spying of the United States of America on its own citizens, but also in the creepy, relentless disruption of liberal gathering places and the propaganda machine right out of 1984.
More woo than science.
The backlash against liberal policies across the length and breadth of social media isn't a rejection of liberalism. It couldn't be; they're too perfectly awesome to be rejected. Everything they do is flawless and well-loved.
It must be evil people playing dirty!
Fat Che's Little Brother (9,600 posts)
13. Another victim of the "soft PPR."
A gang of alert stalkers keeps at it until they get 3 in a 24 hour period, which gets you locked out without a review.
Just goes to show how easily the current system can be abused by a dedicated group.
Fat Che's Little Brother (9,600 posts)
20. It happened to me, too
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One poster even commented how they had been called to serve on three juries on frivolous alerts against me. They finally found three juries in the middle of the night and I got locked out of DU.
This is also what happened to Taverner. And although the notification says that the review is "usually done within 24 hours" I was locked out for six days, and Taverner for over a week.
The lockout procedure also kicks you out of ATA and sending messages to the admins, so there is next to no way to resolve the situation. I finally thought of alerting in the notification. I guess Taverner didn't think of that.
Locking accounts temporarily might be a good idea for stopping spammers or trolls before MIRT can get to them, but as it's currently written it's open for abuse.
ETA: the comment I was referring to: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1114&pid=11140
They're quite fractured over there about this new policy.
It looks as if DickSkinner's new review system is rolling out with all the success of DemCare.
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I love this fealty post from Pretzelasswipe, sums up the DUng Heaps hive mind:
Pretzel_Warrior (4,919 posts)
276. You are questioning motives, methods, and truthfulness of admins
With your comments
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/user_avatars/298088.jpg)
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I'm gonna miss that idiot.
He had me THIS CLOSE to putting on a Che t-shirt and shooting up some heroin while listening to a 2 year old randomly plucking on an electric guitar. And then they ban him.
Taverner: We're gonna miss you. Get some help. Not being a smartass, it is not an insult. GO GET HELP TO QUIT DESTROYING YOUR LIFE WITH DRUGS AND SOCIALISM!
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He had me THIS CLOSE to putting on a Che t-shirt and shooting up some heroin while listening to a 2 year old randomly plucking on an electric guitar. And then they ban him.
Taverner: We're gonna miss you. Get some help. Not being a smartass, it is not an insult. GO GET HELP TO QUIT DESTROYING YOUR LIFE WITH DRUGS AND SOCIALISM!
Speaking of socialism did his website ever get off the ground??? I can't remember the addy.
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Speaking of socialism did his website ever get off the ground??? I can't remember the addy.
This isn't it, but it might help someone remember what it is.
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Eferrari/as_zps43489ba0.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Eferrari/media/as_zps43489ba0.jpg.html)
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Oh my.
I had to go find out what an "0bama harp" is.
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Eferrari/oh_zps346942cb.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Eferrari/media/oh_zps346942cb.jpg.html)
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Found it: http://socialistamerican.com/
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Found it: http://socialistamerican.com/
That's it? It doesn't do anything.
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Found it: http://socialistamerican.com/
Yeah, that's it all right.
Thank you!
Now that the Taverner primitive's going to have some time on his hands, not able to hang around on Skins's island, does one suppose he'll finally do something with it?
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Yeah, that's it all right.
Thank you!
Now that the Taverner primitive's going to have some time on his hands, not able to hang around on Skins's island, does one suppose he'll finally do something with it?
:rotf:
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Yeah, that's it all right.
Thank you!
Now that the Taverner primitive's going to have some time on his hands, not able to hang around on Skins's island, does one suppose he'll finally do something with it?
Overdose on the black horse.
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TeeYiYi (5,230 posts)
220. Taverner's PPR...
...has been conflated into a supposed multi-sock carnival of cunning chicanery.....
(http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/phobucketfordu/sckpup_zps58cccfa0.jpg)
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This is a genuinely sad one - he pissed off DUmmies, he openly advocated socialism (better than covertly), and could always be relied on to make the most ludicrous addition to any flow of ideas. I'll miss him...the constellation of hilarious lunacy at the DUmp has become less lunatic.