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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: landofconfusion80 on November 12, 2013, 01:00:44 PM
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Bill will be punished! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024020562)
Mass (25,371 posts)
Clinton to Obama: Let Americans keep canceled health plans
We can always count on Bill Clinton to give his opinion at the worse moment possible. I think it is likely that the WH will find a fix for this problem, but you will soon see Fox push Bill Clinton's opinion in support of the inane GOP bill.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/11/12/clinton-obamacare-cancelled-health-plans/3505247/
WASHINGTON--Former President Bill Clinton said that President Obama should honor his oft-repeated pledge and allow people to hang on to health care plans that are being cancelled as a result of the Affordable Care Act.
"I personally believe, even if it takes a change in the law, that the president should honor the commitment the federal government made to those people and let them keep what they've got," Clinton said in an interview at OZY.com published on Tuesday.
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The White House has said that the president is exploring administrative action to help some of the millions on the individual insurance market who have received cancellation notices, but hasn't announced any specific steps they may take.
It's getting really ugly over their failing healthcare takeover. Looks like the Clintons are in for a rough ride
Keefer (307 posts)
38. Here is my old plan:
My current health plan:
My premium costs me $6 per week, taken directly out of my paycheck.
I have a $1000 deductible.
A doctor or specialist visit costs me a $10 co-pay.
I pay $4 for a 90 day supply of generic medications.
Wellness visits are free.
Vision is covered.
Dental is covered.
I have a pre-existing heart condition. I was also born with a heart murmur and had rheumatic fever as a child. I was admitted to the hospital this past May for a rapid heartbeat. I spent 6 days in the Critical Care Unit, then I was moved to a "regular" room for 2 more days. When I got the confirmation from the insurance company that they paid it, the total bill was over $42,000. My responsibility of that amount: $100.00
My plan is not available next year because it does not provide maternity or pediatric care. I am a single male with no kids. Why do I need those coverages?
This Dummie isn't long for the island.
ProSense (107,680 posts)
31. "Informing them of your opinion"?
You seem to think that people enjoy being screwed over by the insurance companies. It's not my opinion, it's a fact: the plans are bogus.
"But it's inappropriate to tell them they're stupid because they wanted to keep the plan they've enjoyed for years, and I've seen that expressed here and other blogs."
Informing someone is not telling them "they're stupid."
The fact is that it's now illegal for the insurance companies to screw over people with these plans. They simply have to comply with the law.
It would be highly irresponsible for anyone to advocate support for a situation that allows the insurance companies to screw people.
Must....Have....My....Precious.....!
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Don't worry the president is using his laser like focus, to make sure that this problem is fixed, he is committed to making sure that everyone is offered better plans at affordable rates. And as always affordable is not up to you, they get to decide just how much more you can pay and afford it.
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Very depressing segment on Rush. All "o" has to do is offer more subsidies to those who have lost individual policies. If Republicans fight it they will be portrayed as denying healthcare to the folks "o" is trying to help. Politically, you can't fight Santa Clause.
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The fact is that it's now illegal for the insurance companies to screw over people with these plans. They simply have to comply with the law.
Which is why the American people are getting screwed over....by the government. Right, proscent?
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Where does Prosense rate on the awards this year? That girl is grasping for gold!(plan)
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And as always affordable is not up to you,
It's up to Prosense, of course. Even the DUmmies are getting sick of her, calling her authoritarian. That arrogant high-handedness of hers isn't flying too well on non-DU blogs. Another DUmmie told her that and she blew her stack.
(I always pictured her as a womyn).
All "o" has to do is offer more subsidies to those who have lost individual policies.
Bad Dog, I read somewhere this would be highly illegal. Let me look around for where I saw it. There aren't a lot of good options for obozo.
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Bill will be punished! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024020562)
Keefer (307 posts)
38. Here is my old plan:
My current health plan:
My premium costs me $6 per week, taken directly out of my paycheck.
I have a $1000 deductible.
A doctor or specialist visit costs me a $10 co-pay.
I pay $4 for a 90 day supply of generic medications.
Wellness visits are free.
Vision is covered.
Dental is covered.
I have a pre-existing heart condition. I was also born with a heart murmur and had rheumatic fever as a child. I was admitted to the hospital this past May for a rapid heartbeat. I spent 6 days in the Critical Care Unit, then I was moved to a "regular" room for 2 more days. When I got the confirmation from the insurance company that they paid it, the total bill was over $42,000. My responsibility of that amount: $100.00
My plan is not available next year because it does not provide maternity or pediatric care. I am a single male with no kids. Why do I need those coverages?
This Dummie isn't long for the island.
Ouch! If only he had added one more word, he'd be safe for another thousand posts at LEAST.
My plan is not available next year because it does not provide maternity or pediatric care. I am a single black male with no kids. Why do I need those coverages?
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DUmbasses are literally going to explode having to deal with this...the truth of Os plans escaped too early and now is falling apart in front of them.
It is a pleasure to see.
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Bad Dog, I read somewhere this would be highly illegal. Let me look around for where I saw it. There aren't a lot of good options for obozo.
Oh no, he will go to Congress for the money. Then either the Republicans vote for it or they are portrayed as heartless rich bastids. And if they vote for it they will be portrayed as having bought into obummercare and all future problems will be their fault.
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It's up to Prosense, of course. Even the DUmmies are getting sick of her, calling her authoritarian. That arrogant high-handedness of hers isn't flying too well on non-DU blogs. Another DUmmie told her that and she blew her stack.
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
Someone told her it was up to the people who owned the plans and liked them as to whether or not they should be unhappy with having lost it and not up to her and she went nuts. Well, more nuts than she usually is, anyway.
It gets funnier.
ProSense
50. Oh please
Joe & Jane Average are pissed. They had insurance they were happy with, were promised they could keep it, and now they learn differently. In their view, they were betrayed.
The topic is not going to die.
And so far the only answers I'm seeing at this site are insufficient. Well, that.... and a whole lot of lousy excuses that won't work in the real world.
But good luck with that.
This is nothing but shilling for shitty plans. No, "Joe & Jane Average" are not "pissed." In fact, as people learn more, they're realizing the insurance companies are screwing them and they can find real coverage on the exchange. This is simply a Republican talking point still riding the misinformation wave. The reality is that while this affects about three percent of the population (the total individual market), not all the plans are being canceled, and not everyone getting a cancellation notice is still in the dark.
There is no excuse for justifying the continuation of plans that will screw people via bankruptcy or death.
:rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
She's spitting and sputtering like a mad cow!
Oh yeah, Joe and Jane Average are already mad, and they're multiplying everyday.
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Clinton to Obama: Let Americans keep canceled health plans
We can always count on Bill Clinton to give his opinion at the worse moment possible. I think it is likely that the WH will find a fix for this problem, but you will soon see Fox push Bill Clinton's opinion in support of the inane GOP bill.
I am very proud of Bill right now. :cheersmate:
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Keefer (307 posts)
38. Here is my old plan:
My current health plan:
My premium costs me $6 per week, taken directly out of my paycheck.
I have a $1000 deductible.
A doctor or specialist visit costs me a $10 co-pay.
I pay $4 for a 90 day supply of generic medications.
Wellness visits are free.
Vision is covered.
Dental is covered.
Dang! I might chuck the kids and hubby if I can get that plan :rotf:
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Don't worry the president is using his laser like focus, to make sure that this problem is fixed, he is committed to making sure that everyone is offered better plans at affordable rates. And as always affordable is not up to you, they get to decide just how much more you can pay and afford it.
The solution to the cACA Obama hellCare, much like Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman's murderer, is to be found on our nation's golf courses.
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This is the same Bill Clinton who just a few short years ago told George Snuffaluffagus that he was ASTONISHED at those mean, nasty, racist Republicans working to block this health care plan? Another flip-flopper in the Democrat party? Who would have guessed?
Man, paving the way for Hillary sure is tough, isn't it Bill?
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I am very proud of Bill right now. :cheersmate:
You can always count on Bill to deliver the ol' knife in the back, if there is any chance in the world of it helping himself or Hitlery.
:popcorn:
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We received our increase in cost today for 2014. I will be paying an extra $1282/year for the luxury of free birth control, maternity and mammograms. BTW I am a male. :mad:
United Healthcare PPO 2013 2014 %increase Per pay period Per year
Employee + SP $98.83 $148.15 33.29% $49.32 $1,282.32
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The reality is that while this affects about three percent of the population (the total individual market)
Ummm...what? :thatsright:
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ProSense (107,680 posts)
31. "Informing them of your opinion"?
You seem to think that people enjoy being screwed over by the insurance companies. It's not my opinion, it's a fact: the plans are bogus.
Yeah bogus plans because old people or single men need maternity coverage and pediatric dental? You stupid piece of shit. You are a mindless **** if you can't see that a single male doesn't NEED MATERNITY AND PEDIATRIC DENTAL COVERAGE!!!! OR that an old couple both that have already been sterilized don't NEED MATERNITY OR PEDIATRIC DENTAL COVERAGE!!! Or that a man doesn't need MAMMOGRAMS!!!! Or a sterilized women doesn't need MATERNITY COVERAGE!!!! How the **** more plain can anybody make it for you???
I apologize to the Cavers for my language but this excuse that they were "bogus" plans is the biggest pile of horse shit I have ever heard and drives me up a freaking wall when they keep using it.
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Ya know Max. I think he should keep talking. Thankgiving is coming up and liberals will be dining with family once again.
People are gonna be talking about the real pain and suffering Obamacare is bringing about.
--arguments like this will ensure a generation of republican voters. Why? The moonbats will define the party. No one with a mind will buy this bogus argument.
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Yeah bogus plans because old people or single men need maternity coverage and pediatric dental? You stupid piece of shit. You are a mindless **** if you can't see that a single male doesn't NEED MATERNITY AND PEDIATRIC DENTAL COVERAGE!!!! OR that an old couple both that have already been sterilized don't NEED MATERNITY OR PEDIATRIC DENTAL COVERAGE!!! Or that a man doesn't need MAMMOGRAMS!!!! Or a sterilized women doesn't need MATERNITY COVERAGE!!!! How the **** more plan can anybody make it for you???
I apologize to the Cavers for my language but this excuse that they were "bogus" plans is the biggest pile of horse shit I have ever heard and drives me up a freaking wall when they keep using it.
why don't you vote for your own best interest? /sarc
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Response to Mass (Original post)Tue Nov 12, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jamaal510 (4,441 posts)
47. Thanks for giving the GOP some ammunition, Big Dog. nt
Usually in threads about Slick Willy, several DUmmies call him Big Dog. I searched the thread for Big Dog, thinking I wasn't going to find it but there it was.
I wonder if the Unaffordable Care Act covers tattoo removal:
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/ClintonTatGenevaMedium_zps3ed41d95.jpg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/ClintonTatGenevaMedium_zps3ed41d95.jpg.html)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021296040
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I wonder if it's occurred to 0moron that when he leaves the White House , he'll be playing second banana until the day Clinton dies.
Seriously, I wonder if Putin and Clinton did, like, rock-paper-scissors to divvy up 0bongo's butt cheeks prior to kicking them.
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Libs don't grasp the truth of owebuma being the second black president.
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The fact is that it's now illegal for the insurance companies to screw over people with these plans. They simply have to comply with the law.
Now the Government get's to screw people over whre there insurance plans are concerned. And the kicker is they DON'T have to comply with the law they crated.
Not an opinion...just fact.
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Usually in threads about Slick Willy, several DUmmies call him Big Dog. I searched the thread for Big Dog, thinking I wasn't going to find it but there it was.
I wonder if the Unaffordable Care Act covers tattoo removal:
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/ClintonTatGenevaMedium_zps3ed41d95.jpg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/ClintonTatGenevaMedium_zps3ed41d95.jpg.html)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021296040
I am Big Dog, and I don't approve of that tattoo.
Looks like Chris Matthews getting a tingle up his leg.
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They fired up another one.
Related to this post, so will put the link in here.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024025525
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:40 AM
boomerbust (2,172 posts)
Blue Dog Bubba should just SHUT THE F*** UP!!! Why so negative?
If he thinks this rubbish is somehow going to help Hilary gain the White House, forget it. Elizabeth Warren/Bernie Sanders 2016. :lmao: :lmao:
Response to boomerbust (Original post)
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 10:09 AM
Star Member Snotcicles (5,069 posts)
5. Elizabeth Warren/Sherrod Brown. nt
Response to boomerbust (Original post)
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 10:30 AM
Star Member truebluegreen (3,710 posts)
7. Warren/Grayson 2016!
Response to truebluegreen (Reply #7)
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 11:17 AM
Star Member sabrina 1 (39,366 posts)
15. Grayson/Sanders n/t
Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumber?
Response to NM_Birder (Reply #10)
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 11:43 AM
Nuclear Unicorn (9,402 posts)
19. "Bill Clinton called 'Blue Dog',...and told to "Shut the **** Up"
And called "Bubba" as well, which is kind of a dog whistle for "racist!"
Nah, a DUmocratic said it. A Conservative on the other hand....