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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: marv on November 09, 2013, 03:08:11 PM
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/calls-begin-for-obamas-impeachment-removal-over-serial-fraud-corruption/?ModPagespeed=noscript
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Democrats expected to get away with this lie.
But, Barack Obama may be looking at impeachment and removal from office.
Andrew McCarthy at National Review (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363538/obamas-massive-fraud-andrew-c-mccarthy/page/0/1) reported, via Free Republic:
“If you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan. Period.†How serious was this lie, repeated by Barack Obama with such beguiling regularity? Well, how would the Justice Department be dealing with it if it had been uttered by, say, the president of an insurance company rather than the president of the United States?
Fraud is a serious federal felony, usually punishable by up to 20 years’ imprisonment — with every repetition of a fraudulent communication chargeable as a separate crime. In computing sentences, federal sentencing guidelines factor in such considerations as the dollar value of the fraud, the number of victims, and the degree to which the offender’s treachery breaches any special fiduciary duties he owes. Cases of multi-million-dollar corporate frauds — to say nothing of multi-billion-dollar, Bernie Madoff–level scams that nevertheless pale beside Obamacare’s dimensions — often result in terms amounting to decades in the slammer.
Justice Department guidelines, set forth in the U.S. Attorneys Manual, recommend prosecution for fraud in situations involving “any scheme which in its nature is directed to defrauding a class of persons, or the general public, with a substantial pattern of conduct.†So, for example, if a schemer were intentionally to deceive all Americans, or a class of Americans (e.g., people who had health insurance purchased on the individual market), by repeating numerous times — over the airwaves, in mailings, and in electronic announcements — an assertion the schemer knew to be false and misleading, that would constitute an actionable fraud — particularly if the statements induced the victims to take action to their detriment, or lulled the victims into a false sense of security.
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…Barack Obama is guilty of fraud — serial fraud — that is orders of magnitude more serious than frauds the Justice Department routinely prosecutes, and that courts punish harshly. The victims will be out billions of dollars, quite apart from other anxiety and disruption that will befall them.
The president will not be prosecuted, of course, but that is immaterial. As discussed here before, the remedy for profound presidential corruption is political, not legal. It is impeachment and removal. “High crimes and misdemeanors†— the Constitution’s predicate for impeachment — need not be indictable offenses under the criminal code.
House members have already stated that they have enough to file a Bill of Impeachment. I say, "Let's do it."
Of course criminal prosecution could follow.
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I don't think he can be impeached for lying. Obamacare is only going to get worse. Some computer guy on tv said there was no way they were going to be able to fix this nightmare website.
But the real nightmare is yet to come, with the doctors dropping like flies and people not being able to get appointments or hospital care.
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Impeachment, much less conviction, just ain't gonna happen. Period.
Barry is shielded by the media, a spineless Speaker, and a completely disjointed GOP. Oh, and Dingy Harry too.
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I think impeachment is possible, and might be brought after the 2014 mid-terms. A conviction in the Senate is problematical without Republican control. There has never been a conviction in the Senate, but an impeachment from the House is still damaging to the Democrats and their progressive lackeys. Half an apple is still better than no apple.
Andrew Johnson (D) was impeached by the House but not convicted by the Senate.
Bill Clinton (D) was impeached by the House but not convicted by the Senate.
Richard Nixon (R) resigned rather than facing the embarrassment of a Bill of Impeachment in the House.
We'll have to see.
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I think impeachment is possible, and might be brought after the 2014 mid-terms. A conviction in the Senate is problematical without Republican control. There has never been a conviction in the Senate, but an impeachment from the House is still damaging to the Democrats and their progressive lackeys. Half an apple is still better than no apple.
Andrew Johnson (D) was impeached by the House but not convicted by the Senate.
Bill Clinton (D) was impeached by the House but not convicted by the Senate.
Richard Nixon (R) resigned rather than facing the embarrassment of a Bill of Impeachment in the House.
We'll have to see.
Well yeah it's possible but about as likely as finding life on Mars.
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If he gets impeached, Joe Biden, finishes up the rest of Obama's term, correct?
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I don't see anyone with the guts to impeach the first black president.
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If he gets impeached, Joe Biden, finishes up the rest of Obama's term, correct?
Yes, and short of the GOP running the table in the midterms, passing Articles of Impeachment ain't gonna happen, much less conviction.
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If he gets impeached, Joe Biden, finishes up the rest of Obama's term, correct?
And John Boehner would become VP.
Not sure what is worse.
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And John Boehner would become VP.
Not sure what is worse.
IIRC, that's not the case. The VP slot would be empty until one is nominated and confirmed, much like Ford was confirmed after Agnew resigned.
ETA: Looked it up--per the 25th Amendment.
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I don't see anyone with the guts to impeach the first black president.
We did impeach the first black president, oh wait you mean 0bama not Clinton.
We surely can't impeach the first gay president.