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http://www.democraticunderground.com/11561272
Oh my.
Now, before anybody gets too excited about this, remember that just about everybody of European derivation and western hemispherics of African derivation have some European royal blood in them. It's not a big deal. It's only unusual if one's related to royalty post-circa-1900.
LiberalLoner (5,829 posts) Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:01 AM
Nobody is going to believe this, but on my biological fathers side, I found out Alexander Hamilton was my 4th great Uncle. And Mary Queen of Scots was my 12th great grandmother. William the Conqueror was my 26th great grandfather and King Charlamegne was my 36th great grandfather. And there were scads of other kings and lords and ladies and lairds and barons.
My husband and I think I resemble Mary Queen of Scots somewhat. Based on her death mask and the new 3D reconstruction of her face, we look like we could be cousins, if not sisters, even.
When I found all this out recently it really blew my mind.
Turns out I am distantly related to the Queen of England (through John of Gaunt) and the late Princess Di (and her offspring) through John Hamilton.
I am much more interested in the royals now that I found out, I have some of them as my ancestors.
<<<resembles a paternal ancestor, Lionel Duke of Clarence (the third son of Edward III of England), in that he was, and I am, pretty tall.
If the lonely primitive's descended from John of Gaunt, oops, we're related, because John of Gaunt was the second son of Edward III of England.
<<<but finds relationship with cousin nadin much more intriguing.
Sherman A1 (12,480 posts) Thu Oct 31, 2013, 08:39 AM
1. Then we are related
Charlemagne is my 39th G Grandfather on my Mom's side.
<<<was hoping the pie-and-jam primitive, who's traced her ancestors clear back to Adam and Eve, would show up at this campfire, but she didn't. Perhaps her guardians, who don't like her hanging around on the internet, locked up the computer so she can't use it.
pipi_k (17,772 posts) Thu Oct 31, 2013, 09:50 AM
2. Was that through
Ancestry.com, by any chance?
I've been doing my family tree since 2007, and every now and then I sign up for Ancestry.com hoping for some new information.
Last time I did, a little over a year ago, I "discovered" that I was related to Eleanor of Aquitaine.
Just to make sure, I went backwards and checked each connecting person and found out that a random person had mistakenly inserted an incorrect ancestor into the line.
Too many people zealously and eagerly insert names into their family trees that don't even belong there. I've had to wipe out whole branches of mine when the GED com files I use pointed out that sons (as posted in Ancestry.com) were listed as being born before their own fathers or grandfathers.
My advice, if someone is using an online site to do genealogy work and finds a link to royalty, is to have it confirmed by trained genealogists. It could save lots of embarrassment later...
^^^the above primitive, who's considerably overweight, is correct; if one's serious about family history, get a professional to do it.
Mormons are the best.
LiberalLoner (5,829 posts) Fri Nov 1, 2013, 09:06 AM
9. Oh and Theodosius I the Great was my 48th GGF (Roman Emperor).
franksolich's long-ago ancestor Vlad the Impaler trumps any old Roman emperor, though.
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All those grand blood lines, gone to pot.
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:bawl: I'm descended from William the Conquerer as well. Honestly though, I don't think that is terribly surprising for anybody with a bit of English aristocracy in their blood.
I'm descended from French aristocracy as well. Really, it doesn't mean all that much, I'm generally more interested in what people do with their own lives than what their ancestors did.
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Removed by the n-th degree. It would be significant it was fourth degree or less. Everyone has some aristocratic blood regardless of where they are from.
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I'm not trying to one-up anyone, but I've been told that when I wear this hat, I resemble a king:
(http://www.davealpert.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/BKCrown_Full.jpg)
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Really, it doesn't mean all that much, I'm generally more interested in what people do with their own lives than what their ancestors did.
Bingo.
If I can be a tenth the man my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was, which I'm not, I think I'd be pretty damned impressive.
<<<<great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was Attila the Hun.
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I'm related to my mom and dad.
Now what, DUmpmonkies?
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I'm related to a bunch of redneck farmers who worked hard all of their lives and whose work fed a lot of other people.
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When you've turned your life to poop through poor choices, you take whatever comfort you can with any meaningless crap you can. Especially if it involves little to no effort.
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I bet many DUmbasses have no idea who their father is.
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I bet many DUmbasses have no idea who their father is.
:whistling:
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In the past, DUmmie mothers would spread their legs for anyone of importance or had money ....and they're still doing it.
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In the past, DUmmie mothers would spread their legs for anyone of importance or had money ....and they're still doing it.
Because I was close to my maternal grandmother--she was very old, and nobody else paid any attention to her--as a child, I was filled in on family history, at least her side of the family.
I still remember all she told me.
One of my favorite ancestors was Dragomir of Gheorgheni (1507-1571; name of wife forgotten to history); he was one of my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfathers.
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Eferrari/autumn/ggf_zps4a1edc44.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Eferrari/media/autumn/ggf_zps4a1edc44.jpg.html)(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Eferrari/autumn/ggm_zps1ea3ae69.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Eferrari/media/autumn/ggm_zps1ea3ae69.jpg.html)
Actually, not much is known about him. He was considered a ne'er-do-well in the village where he was born and raised, and one day while reasonably young, he just took off. Nobody knew where he went. He came back about twenty years later, enormously wealthy from a fleet of barges on the Danube River that floated between the Black Sea and Vienna.
He settled down, and was still unmarried. Well, being a rich man, he was considered a "catch" for a husband, and all the single women of the village courted and wooed him.
He finally married a widow with five children, all of them bums and freeloaders and with different fathers.
His choice flummoxed all the people in the village; "You could've had any one of some really beautiful chicks here, but you chose her?--the meanest, nastiest old shrew in the village, a nag, a busybody, a complainer, a bitch who's never happy about anything? You chose her? Why?"
My long-ago ancestor Dragomir, complacently puffing on a long-stemmed pipe, phlegmatically commented that thus far he'd had a pretty easy life, and had gotten away with much, for which God would certainly call him to account. So he figured it was better to pay for his sins in this life, rather than in the next.
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I'm named after a star, or vice versa. I can never remember which.
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>snip<
My long-ago ancestor Dragomir, complacently puffing on a long-stemmed pipe, phlegmatically commented that thus far he'd had a pretty easy life, and had gotten away with much, for which God would certainly call him to account. So he figured it was better to pay for his sins in this life, rather than in the next.
:lmao: :cheersmate:
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All those grand blood lines, gone to pot.
Literally and figuratively.
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My long-ago ancestor Dragomir, complacently puffing on a long-stemmed pipe, phlegmatically commented that thus far he'd had a pretty easy life, and had gotten away with much, for which God would certainly call him to account. So he figured it was better to pay for his sins in this life, rather than in the next.
If suffering the sharp tongue of a woman for 16 years will get you into heaven....I'm in like Flint. :-)
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If suffering the sharp tongue of a woman for 16 years will get you into heaven....I'm in like Flint. :-)
Could only have been better if Coburn was played by Chuck Norris...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9FWUlLtAeQ[/youtube]
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I rowed on over expecting to find grasswipe hooting and hollering about her viking ancestors, but she appears to be missing from the thread altogether.
It is that time of year again, though. The squirrels are out collecting the last nuts to make sure they can make it through the winter, and the grasswipe primitive is undoubtedly going around with her little red wagon collecting as many coats as she can find.
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We're not related, even on his white side....
(http://members.socket.net/~mcruzan/22.jpg)
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If suffering the sharp tongue of a woman for 16 years will get you into heaven....I'm in like Flint. :-)
Another ancestor was Simon le paresseux, originally from France but as a courier from the king there to the French ambassador in Vienna, he was caught up in the siege of that city by the Turks in 1683. After the siege was lifted, he decided "Oh, Hell," and stayed in Austria, where he married someone.
He was one of my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfathers.
(http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g419/Eferrari/autumn/untitled_zpsbc6ae21c.jpg) (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/Eferrari/media/autumn/untitled_zpsbc6ae21c.jpg.html)
He was a mere bureaucrat, but in the manner of bureaucrats since the beginning of time, thought his office more important than it really was. He surrounded himself with pomp and ceremony that made even the Holy Roman Emperor look ascetic and austere.
But hey, he wasn't paying for it, and besides, he "deserved" it.
Simon hid in the attic of a house during the siege, when the Turks were running amok.
One day, when he was perched on the pot d'chambre--doing personal business on company time--there was an uproar on the street below, and he got up to look.
After the siege, he tried getting a pension from the Emperor, claiming he'd fought to defend the city, and in fact had suffered a grievous wound, a Turkish arrow piercing his left buttock.
The pension was refused, because while there was no doubt his ass had been punctured, for some reason his pants didn't have a hole in them too.
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After the siege, he tried getting a pension from the Emperor, claiming he'd fought to defend the city, and in fact had suffered a grievous wound, a Turkish arrow piercing his left buttock.
The pension was refused, because while there was no doubt his ass had been punctured, for some reason his pants didn't have a hole in them too.
That's hilarious. :rofl:
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I'm related to a bunch of redneck farmers who worked hard all of their lives and whose work fed a lot of other people.
We're all within six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.
When you go back more than a half dozen generations, it's just silly guessing unless you're actually in the Royal Family.
Geneology is as legitimate as acupuncture.
I'm related to Napoleon, George Washington, Lincoln, and Christopher Columbus.
Seriously. We're all Caucasian.
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We're all within six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.
When you go back more than a half dozen generations, it's just silly guessing unless you're actually in the Royal Family.
Genealogy is as legitimate as acupuncture.
I'm related to Napoleon, George Washington, Lincoln, and Christopher Columbus.
Seriously. We're all Caucasian.
Essentially you're right, especially given so many clandestine hoppings-around-in-the-sack that one never knows about.
And even royalty isn't exempt from doubt; it's likely that the tsars of Russia after Catherine the Great were not Romanovs, because her husband really wasn't capable of, uh, getting it up.
Only DNA knows for sure.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAGP24eq_0o&hd=1[/youtube]
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I certainly wouldn't be bragging about looking like Mary Queen of Scots. :puke:
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I certainly wouldn't be bragging about looking like Mary Queen of Scots. :puke:
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Before or after she was beheaded?
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My line traces back to both Oliver Cromwell's and Charles II's Captain General of Scouts.
(Ironically the same guy)
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My line traces back to both Oliver Cromwell's
Now there's a guy who had a few enemies. Nothing like having people hate you so much they dig up your body so they can kill you all over again.
Congrats!
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At last, we are going to be able to track down Kilroy !
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We're all within six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.
When you go back more than a half dozen generations, it's just silly guessing unless you're actually in the Royal Family.
Geneology is as legitimate as acupuncture.
I'm related to Napoleon, George Washington, Lincoln, and Christopher Columbus.
Seriously. We're all Caucasian.
I used to joke with a girl at work about that. Her brother played with and wrote songs for a fairly popular regional band. He’d stop by the office to visit ever so often and was always a good guy to joke around with.
I told the girl at work that since her brother opened for and got to know Reba (who was in Tremors with Kevin Bacon) we were now connected to everyone.
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You have 2 grandfathers. You have four great-grandfathers. You have eight great-grandfathers. You have 16 great-great-great grandfathers. There are 32 men who claim to be your great-great-great-great-grandfathers. 64 men are your great5 grandfathers.
I'm not a math whiz, but my calculations say you would have 274,877,906,944 39th great-grandfathers. So everyone is related to each other when we go back that far.
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You have 2 grandfathers. You have four great-grandfathers. You have eight great-grandfathers. You have 16 great-great-great grandfathers. There are 32 men who claim to be your great-great-great-great-grandfathers. 64 men are your great5 grandfathers.
I'm not a math whiz, but my calculations say you would have 274,877,906,944 39th great-grandfathers. So everyone is related to each other when we go back that far.
So funny, Everyone seems to want to declare some DNA to famous people, of wealth and importance.
Not me by golly, I enjoy the story's and findings of genealogy when they track back to 1623 and my rag tag family finally came ashore with less then a change of under ware or a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out.
2 brothers came here, one became a farmer and the other a hog thief, a river rat and had the most colorful family on my side. The farmers were God fearing honest folk, still live in the area, my side still also lives here but, we have calmed down somewhat since way back then.
My claim to fame is Tamera, she was the first woman to counterfeit the Kings money in this country back when Maine was called Mass. Interesting woman, I found a couple GGGGGGG Aunties that worked the bars on the water front in the Revolution era, and a cousin that on the census role of the day put down as occupation a musician in a address on the wharfs. ---In other words he worked as a piano player in a whore house.
What fun to think that only 25 years before my birth, family were Rum running to and from Canada, and my grandmothers were flappers, cut their hair and made bath tub Gin.
I could give a hoot about any family in Europe or where ever before they made the decision to take their lives in their own hands and come to America. Never wealthy, never better then others, unless they were well known for being hung in the town square.
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Well now, one wonders what got the lonely primitive all bent out of shape.
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Has anyone else noticed this seems to have been happening a lot lately?