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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on October 29, 2013, 12:16:29 PM
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cthulu2016 (9,467 posts)
Beneath the ugly Civil War aspect, Republican ACA nit-picking is useful
Last edited Tue Oct 29, 2013, 11:43 AM USA/ET - Edit history (3)
What is going on is not real helpful because the Republicans are ill-intended and seek nothing less than the destruction of the USA, but in concept their obsessive hunt for any flaw in the ACA is something that should be done by somebody. It is a desirable feature of a two-party system that neither side can do anything without that action facing withering critique.
In practice, however, that often fails.
In the current instance, the ACA is flawed by Republican design. The ACA should have been amended every two weeks for the last several years and been the subject of continual hearings over-seeing the implementation planning.
Instead, since the Republican position was the elimination of the ACA, improving it was never on the table. There was no dialogue with Congress, and no possibility of good changes in subsequent legislation. Republicans wanted the ACA to fail, so any change that could have passed would have been a malignant change.
In the case of the ACA, the warring parties did not share a desire for the common good. The Republicans wanted bad outcomes.
In a striking reversed instance of the phenomenon, we had the Iraq War. Unlike the ACA, with its Republican hyper-partisanship, we had the tragedy of patriotic bi-partisanship where the Democratic Party (particularly in the Senate) did an insufficient job of opposition, forming a de facto bipartisan one-party system for purposes of Iraq, and the GWOT in general.
(Just imagine the case for war with Iraq being subjected to real hearings suitable to something so important—geared toward breaking down the rationale if such breakage was possible. Such stress-testing of a cause for war is not unpatriotic, it is what the system is supposed to do. Hell, we should have assigned advocates to essentially prosecute the cause the war versus the administration's defense. That's how you test things.)
Despite those notable failures, however, the ideal of the government being unable to do anything without vigorous inquiry and critique is a good one.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023942948
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God they are such children.
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God, they are so ****ing stupid. :mental: :loser: :bird:
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Um...if they knew it was a POS law that needed daily care and feeding, why didn't they say that in 2009 and 2010?
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The beauty is that it doesn't matter what the MSM says or tries to do to cover up this train wreck. And it certainly doesn't matter what a bunch of LW pol sites or blogs try to do to cover it up. This is going to hit people at home in real ways and with their real money. There's no way to spin this that says "What's happening to you isn't really happening to you."
The primitives are going to go even more looney than normal over this. And I, for one am going to enjoy every second of it.
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Um...if they knew it was a POS law that needed daily care and feeding, why didn't they say that in 2009 and 2010?
These morons are pissed the Republicans didn't jump in and fix the mess they made of health care.
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These morons are pissed the Republicans didn't jump in and fix the mess they made of health care.
Gee, lurkers, d'ya think it might have been a good idea to read the bill before you passed it? Thanks, Pelosi.
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You're right, USA4ME, there's no way to spin this or cover it up. The attempts to spin it are being laughed out of the room. I'm reading a comments section from the NY Times, of all places. Torches and pitchforks.
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So now it's our fault for not fixing a law that they wrote and only they voted for. It's like blaming google if ios7 sucks.
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These morons are pissed the Republicans didn't jump in and fix the mess they made of health care.
If the GOP lent its assistance on the law -- assuming the Dems would allow it because they wanted this to be their law as much as the GOP wanted this to be the Dems law -- then the GOP would be blamed for tinkering with an otherwise perfect law.
They're trying to blame shift so it doesn't matter what we do or do not do. As with all things liberals do the one thing they will never do is accept responsibility for their own actions.