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Title: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: USA4ME on October 26, 2013, 11:07:33 AM
Quote from:
Buddha_of_Wisdom

I'm trying to start a business. I have no equity I can call my own except for a financed car.

I need at least $500,000 to $650,000. I want to start a self-serve frozen yogurt franchise. I need to find an investor or people that are willing to take a chance with me. Do I write a prospectus, with an introduction about myself and my explanation on why I am leaving the IT industry to jump in the retail frozen yogurt business? There is a great need for one near where I live, so I want to get started on this project.

I need input, so I'm going to write the best damn introduction letter as to why I'm doing this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023925625

The only members on Skin's island who has that kind of money are moles, and they aren't interested.

And the libs are used to begging for freebies, not financing.

You're on the wrong board for what you want, primitive.

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Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 26, 2013, 11:13:49 AM
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I need at least $500,000 to $650,000.

Wishadoo???
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Big Dog on October 26, 2013, 11:18:20 AM
Self-serve frozen yogurt?

The DUmmy's prospectus must be a doozy.

"I want half a million dollars to build a franchise where customers can get as much frozen yogurt as they want for one price. I have no experience, no equity of my own, and will put up none of my own money."

Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: USA4ME on October 26, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from:
"I want half a million dollars to build a franchise where customers can get as much frozen yogurt as they want for one price. I have no experience, no equity of my own, and will put up none of my own money. Bush is Hitler."

Just needed that little extra punch.

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Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Big Dog on October 26, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
A little truth in advertising is in order:

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Buddha_of_Wisdom

I'm trying to start a business. I have no equity I can call my own except for a financed car (buy here, pay here)

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I need to find an investor or people that are willing to take a chance with me.

What is your projected return on investment, DUmmy? That is what investors want to know.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Big Dog on October 26, 2013, 11:26:16 AM
Just needed that little extra punch.

 :doh: :doh: :doh:

How could I forget?
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on October 26, 2013, 11:42:56 AM
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greytdemocrat (1,856 posts)
19. Hmmm

You want to start a bidness and need big $$$ and
you came here??? You're already dooooooooooooooomed.
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/emoticons/chuckle.gif)

 :rotf: :rofl: :lmao: :lol:
Title: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Freeper on October 26, 2013, 11:46:20 AM
Wishadoo???

We have those here, they weigh your cup and charge by the ounce.

Oops meant to quote big dog not Ralph. I blame the ipad.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: ScubaGuy on October 26, 2013, 11:58:06 AM
The DUmmie needs to be sure that in the prospectus he tells the investors that he'll pay full healthcare, pension, childcare, education benefits, 4 weeks paid vacation and a 'living' wage to all employees.

That will be sure to attract them.  :hyper:
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Carl on October 26, 2013, 12:11:56 PM
Giving a half a million dollars to a person without a nickel to his name to sell 4.00/ea cups of frozen yogurt...what could possibly go wrong with that investment?  :lmao:
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Freeper on October 26, 2013, 12:14:35 PM
Giving a half a million dollars to a person without a nickel to his name to sell 4.00/ea cups of frozen yogurt...what could possibly go wrong with that investment?  :lmao:

Luckily he is asking at a site where the very few who have two nickels to rub together won't part with them.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Bad Dog on October 26, 2013, 12:20:16 PM
Absolutely perfect DUmmie business plan.  This cries out for govt. funding.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: BattleHymn on October 26, 2013, 12:21:20 PM
This is the same shit my moonbat stepfather-in-law pulls each time we go to visit.  Change a couple of the details around, and it would be a dead ringer for one of his stupid ideas.   

Naturally, he has no money to ever throw towards an idea, but he sure is proactive in suggesting spousal unit and I could invest in it.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Freeper on October 26, 2013, 12:41:33 PM
Absolutely perfect DUmmie business plan.  This cries out for govt. funding.

Too small to fail.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Big Dog on October 26, 2013, 12:45:41 PM
We have those here, they weigh your cup and charge by the ounce.

Well done, DUmmy buddha. You re-invented the hospital cafeteria.

I figure the  entrepreneur DUmmy's plan is to provide yogurt to the proletariat masses "according to their need" and get paid "according to their ability", allow the local Occutards to bathe in his toilets, and give away his condiments and napkins to Amber's Hobo Army. If he follows the business plan of a certain pie-shop DUmmy, he will also give free yogurt to well-paid government employees.

Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: BattleHymn on October 26, 2013, 12:49:54 PM
If he follows the business plan of a certain pie-shop DUmmy, he will also give free yogurt to well-paid government employees.

Speaking of the grasswipe primitive, I wish she would post something worth rowing back over here.  I have this funny cartoon that reminded me of her, and I haven't been able to post it yet. 
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Bad Dog on October 26, 2013, 12:53:54 PM
Speaking of the grasswipe primitive, I wish she would post something worth rowing back over here.  I have this funny cartoon that reminded me of her, and I haven't been able to post it yet. 

Well, since she has been officially mentioned here, please feel free.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: BattleHymn on October 26, 2013, 01:01:01 PM
Well, since she has been officially mentioned here, please feel free.

I really hate to waste it here, but I'll go ahead and do it, in hopes that grasswipe will nadin her name, and this thread will pop up. 

With her viking heritage, I'm sure she'll understand:

(http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o528/dummieland/grasswipe_zpse087ee64.png)

Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: BannedFromDU on October 26, 2013, 01:16:01 PM


     Asking liberals about business plans is like asking rsmithnumbers about cover letters for a resume.

     As someone who knows a little, let me assure you lurkers than anyone looking for 500 large to start a business where the average ticket is $4 IS OUT OF THEIR LIVER SNAPPIN' MIND.

     Holy PISS. $500K?

     Let's assume that a HIGH END lease of 500sf or so runs $3000/mo. That's a SILLY rate, but I'm trying to make a point. Assume further that soft serve yogurt equipment can be leased at $300/mo per
     twist, so 10 twists is, say, $2500/mo (again, way high, but stay with me). Now figure labor, utilities, insurance, COGS, and so on at $3000/mo. That's approaching a $10k/mo nut, which puts the
     DUmmy's costs alone at $120,000/year. And those are very high numbers.

     So where does $500K come in? An idiot would laugh that number out of the office, let alone a banker.

     Stick to grifting from the government, DUmmy.


 
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Bad Dog on October 26, 2013, 01:19:52 PM

     Asking liberals about business plans is like asking rsmithnumbers about cover letters for a resume.

     As someone who knows a little, let me assure you lurkers than anyone looking for 500 large to start a business where the average ticket is $4 IS OUT OF THEIR LIVER SNAPPIN' MIND.

     Holy PISS. $500K?

     Let's assume that a HIGH END lease of 500sf or so runs $3000/mo. That's a SILLY rate, but I'm trying to make a point. Assume further that soft serve yogurt equipment can be leased at $300/mo per
     twist, so 10 twists is, say, $2500/mo (again, way high, but stay with me). Now figure labor, utilities, insurance, COGS, and so on at $3000/mo. That's approaching a $10k/mo nut, which puts the
     DUmmy's costs alone at $120,000/year. And those are very high numbers.

     So where does $500K come in? An idiot would laugh that number out of the office, let alone a banker.

     Stick to grifting from the government, DUmmy.


 

I think the $500K is for the franchiser.  He's gonna pay for all that other stuff out of the massive profits.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: BannedFromDU on October 26, 2013, 01:22:21 PM
I think the $500K is for the franchiser.  He's gonna pay for all that other stuff out of the massive profits.


    A fortiori. $500K for a franchise fee? From who, the Russian Mafia?

    Anyway, a franchiser won't even consider you unless you have a huge amount of personal wealth, anyway, and it can't come from your rich uncle. The DUmmy is screwed. Too bad it isn't 1975 - they could do better
walking around looking for empty bottles to turn in for the deposit.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: USA4ME on October 26, 2013, 01:59:48 PM
Quote from:
greytdemocrat

19. Hmmm

You want to start a bidness and need big $$$ and
you came here??? You're already dooooooooooooooomed.

Quote from:
Buddha_of_Wisdom

34. Brainstorming...

That's why I asked for input. Not criticism.

You want brainstorming!?! At DU!?!

Forget about it. All the primitives combined couldn't come up with a decent brain drizzle.

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Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: USA4ME on October 26, 2013, 02:03:12 PM
Quote from:
Buddha_of_Wisdom

35. I have contacted the person I need to talk to at Small Business Development Council and still waiting to hear back from *SOMEBODY* to answer my inquiry on getting funding.

I'll sell 49% of my ownership for 600k.

I'd love to see this idiot go on Sharktank.

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Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Bad Dog on October 26, 2013, 02:10:25 PM
This idiot makes Amber seem somewhat rational.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Carl on October 26, 2013, 02:41:43 PM
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leftstreet (25,107 posts)
1. You have, uh, studied the need for this in your area?

Actually for the DUmp not a stupid response.

Wait for it...

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Buddha_of_Wisdom
5. Yep. I have.

Interestingly enough, around the radius of about 3 miles, there is as follows:

A Dairy Queen
Boom Yogurt (self serve, but focused on health woo, Muscle Milk garbage, and limited to only 12 flavors)
Pinkberry (which is not self serve, and limited to 4 flavors)
An actual ice cream store called Bonnie Brae Ice Cream - been there 25 years, wonderful place to get good homemade ice cream
A self-serve overpriced (52 cents!) and poorly mixed frozen yogurt place in Cherry Creek Mall called Cherry on Top
A pretty good self-serve frozen yogurt store called Yogurt Guru, but parking is really REALLY bad.
Menchies - a chain of frozen yogurts that is often poorly mixed and tastes like crap. Probably two in my radius

There are a few local chain frozen yogurt stores but they are a little further out of my radius. One particular one we often go to is called Yogurtland. It's very good, and this is where we got the idea of setting up a new one in that location.

I have spent time and research on locating a franchise that'll work here in Denver, and I have found one, and have met with the CEO himself in New Jersey, and we felt the market and location I had in mind was just right for a new franchise. He said often the capital raising is the hardest part.

 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Big Dog on October 26, 2013, 02:59:41 PM
Buddha_of_Wisdom
5. Yep. I have.

Interestingly enough, around the radius of about 3 miles, there is as follows:

A Dairy Queen
Boom Yogurt (self serve, but focused on health woo, Muscle Milk garbage, and limited to only 12 flavors)
Pinkberry (which is not self serve, and limited to 4 flavors)
An actual ice cream store called Bonnie Brae Ice Cream - been there 25 years, wonderful place to get good homemade ice cream
A self-serve overpriced (52 cents!) and poorly mixed frozen yogurt place in Cherry Creek Mall called Cherry on Top
A pretty good self-serve frozen yogurt store called Yogurt Guru, but parking is really REALLY bad.
Menchies - a chain of frozen yogurts that is often poorly mixed and tastes like crap. Probably two in my radius

Sweet jumping Jesus.

The DUmmy is in Denver. He'd have eight competitors within a 10 minute drive. He offers nothing unique, nothing to draw customers from their current yogurt suppliers. From October 1 through May 1, he will be lucky to sell enough frozen yogurt to replace the milk when it expires- much less meet overhead or repay the loan from investors.

I can't imagine why investors are not breaking down his door.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Tess Anderson on October 26, 2013, 03:22:56 PM
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Buddha_of_Wisdom


I need input, so I'm going to write the best damn introduction letter as to why I'm doing this.


You ought to get rsmithnumbers to write that letter for you.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Bad Dog on October 26, 2013, 03:30:08 PM
You have to know poor old Budda knows there are DUmmies for whom $500K is pocket change and the greedy SOBs won't help achieve with his dream.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 26, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
DUmmie had a brainstorm....anyone suggest calling FEMA?
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: GOBUCKS on October 26, 2013, 03:58:29 PM
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I need input, so I'm going to write the best damn introduction letter as to why I'm doing this.

He needs to farm this job out to rsmithnumbers.

No one of less skill could ever explain this nutty idea.


DUmmy Raven, who wishes her unemployable alcoholic son could maybe get a job in DUmmy Buddha's yogurt shop:
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Response to Buddha_of_Wisdom (Original post)
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 12:50 PM
Raven (11,163 posts)

21. MIT and Boston College School of Business have websites
that will help you formulate a business plan.

Yeah, someone from MIT will help you, as soon as they catch their breath from laughing.


And then the DUmp's premier entrepreneuress weighs in:
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Response to Buddha_of_Wisdom (Original post)
Sat Oct 26, 2013, 01:40 PM
grasswire (38,200 posts)

29. Food carts are the rage. Many businesses begin from them.
Can set up at farmers markets, universities, downtown, events, etc.

Low overhead. Small investment
.
I guess if you don't have a cart, you could use a little red Radio Flyer wagon.

It's disappointing that the Buddha DUmmy didn't post an address where you could send your check.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 26, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
Hey DUmmie, if I had a half million dollars to piss away.....I'd buy a beer distributorship and get started pissing it away.
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: I_B_Perky on October 26, 2013, 05:08:03 PM
I'll send some healing white light and some pics of my hands. Will that help?   :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: zeitgeist on October 26, 2013, 05:24:39 PM
Hey DUmmie, if I had a half million dollars to piss away.....I'd buy a beer distributorship and get started pissing it away.

And we'd have to start callin ya JJ jr.

http://www.solargeneral.com/jeffs-archive/black-civil-wrongs/jesse-shakedown-jackson-gets-beer-distributorship-for-son/

 :cheersmate:

Title: Re: Primitive fishing for suckers
Post by: Carl on October 26, 2013, 05:40:27 PM
In all fairness,this cretins business plan is probably better then most green energy companies that obozo threw millions of our dollars at.  :censored: