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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on October 25, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
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Star Member MrScorpio (57,330 posts)
GAWD, I hope that they pick Ted Cruz as their presidential nominee
This guy's PERFECT! He's a dream come true.
He's says the most outrageous shit, and doubles down on it whenever he pisses people off en masse. He's a con man that just about anyone with more than .0002% of sense can see right through.
He would be completely UNelectable in a national election… Better yet, he would kill the GOP's hope of taking the White House for a generation.
He could single-handedly break the Republican's strangle-hold on the top marginal tax base in this country.
I hope that he NEVER stops talking. The wingers love this guy and they are completely oblivious to the fact that he could wreck their entire hopes for a political future.
He's in Iowa and the local Dems see the writing on the wall as well, they're PROMOTING his ass.
Did you see the welcome he got from IA Gov. Branstadt? I thought that he was going to spit on the ground after saying his name… And HE's A freaking Republican! Imagine if Cruz got the nom and all the GOP moderates like Branstad had to hold their breath to vote for the guy. The GOPers would stay away from the polls in droves.
Cruz is magic, people!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023922635
I'd love to see him run and win, you idiots will melt down even worse than you did under Bush.
Star Member we can do it (4,979 posts)
1. Me too, and I just heard on NPR he has lots of loony supporters.
It could be even funnier then Failin or rMoney.
I love it when they call us loony, means we are doing something right!
MADem (92,929 posts)
14. He's a Canadian....! He can't run for President any more than Jenifer Granholm can. nt
I thought it was racist to ask where he was born.
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Nah, Ted doesn't golf.
Besides, he's to good at stirring up the liberals as a senator, to move him into a less effective position.
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You can always tell when we have a good possible candidate because threads like these start popping up.
Keep it up Ted.
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I hope he does too!
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I hope he does too!
Me too. He's a guy who's not afraid of a fight. Who is willing to stand and debate the lies of the left.
I would LOVE to see him in a debate with whatever lefty.
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As the reality of Obamacare sets in, Ted Cruz will become more & more relevant. Bank it, DUmmies.
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MADem (92,929 posts)
14. He's a Canadian....! He can't run for President any more than Jenifer Granholm can. nt
I'm unclear on this. It was my understanding that he is the child of an American citizen who was born in Canada. Doesn't that make him eligible?
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In Texas, Cruz would probably win.
In a nationwide election, Walter Mondale would beat him in a landslide, and I don't even know if Mondale is still alive.
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In Texas, Cruz would probably win.
In a nationwide election, Walter Mondale would beat him in a landslide, and I don't even know if Mondale is still alive.
So let's run another RINO, that always seems to work. How about Christie?
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So let's run another RINO, that always seems to work. How about Christie?
Too controversial. I think Johny Mac deserves another shot he just needs to be repackaged.
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Cruz is eligible to run. But 2016 is still a long way off. If he does, I can easily vote for him. No more RINO shit!
However, I'd like to see who and how he endorses in 2014, and who he might campaign for. That'll tell us a lot about his intentions for 2016. Here's hoping.
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Too controversial. I think Johny Mac deserves another shot he just needs to be repackaged.
Might as well.
I get sick of people on our side saying conservatives shouldn't run because they can't win. Then they run a RINO that even 0bama can beat.
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Didn't they say this same shit about Ronald Reagan back in 1980. How'd that work out for you Dumbasses. A real conservative would bring out the base in droves and pick up the moderates and blue dog Dems. We need to stop letting mainstream media choose our candidate.
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So let's run another RINO, that always seems to work. How about Christie?
It probably wouldn't work. The party has been severely damaged over the past year.
But we've won five presidential elections since 1980 with Reagan and the Bushes, and all those guys would be considered RINO by most in the tea party.
The tea partiers can win in a few states and a lot of congressional districts, but haven't a prayer in a national election, and I think they know it.
I hope we aren't headed for eight years of the Hildebeast.
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Didn't they say this same shit about Ronald Reagan back in 1980. How'd that work out for you Dumbasses. A real conservative would bring out the base in droves and pick up the moderates and blue dog Dems. We need to stop letting mainstream media choose our candidate.
Even if Cruz gets the nod there are too many people supposedly on our side all to willing to helps the Dems defeat him. Even more so than when Reagan was elected.
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I'm unclear on this. It was my understanding that he is the child of an American citizen who was born in Canada. Doesn't that make him eligible?
He can run. He's more eligible to run that the current office holder.
This is typical for the DUmmies. Remember they tried this with McCain in '08 because he was born in the Canal Zone.
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Even if Cruz gets the nod there are too many people supposedly on our side all to willing to helps the Dems defeat him. Even more so than when Reagan was elected.
Well there you have it, let's all get behind the dark horse Lindsey Graham.
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It probably wouldn't work. The party has been severely damaged over the past year.
But we've won five presidential elections since 1980 with Reagan and the Bushes, and all those guys would be considered RINO by most in the tea party.
The tea partiers can win in a few states and a lot of congressional districts, but haven't a prayer in a national election, and I think they know it.
I hope we aren't headed for eight years of the Hildebeast.
Well if enough people share your "we can't win attitude" then yes Hillary will be the next president.
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Well there you have it, let's all get behind the dark horse Lindsey Graham.
Yep we have been told that Cruz can't win so let's go with Graham. That will work.
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Yep we have been told that Cruz can't win so let's go with Graham. That will work.
I know he's not the best choice but I'm afraid John might croak before 2016.
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I know he's not the best choice but I'm afraid John might croak before 2016.
We need Rubio for VP his amnesty policies will be sure to help us win.
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Well there you have it, let's all get behind the dark horse Lindsey Graham.
Not saying that. Just pointing out what we can expect when/if Cruz gets the nomination. I want him to be the nominee.
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Not saying that. Just pointing out what we can expect when/if Cruz gets the nomination. I want him to be the nominee.
Understand, but they are going to savage and lie about whomever we pick, be it Christi, Jeb or Olimpia Snowe. So lets pick someone who is a real conservative and has the balls to stand by his principles.
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Not saying that. Just pointing out what we can expect when/if Cruz gets the nomination. I want him to be the nominee.
Whatever you expect to happen to Cruz will happen to those who are said to be electable. Look at how they painted Romney as some right wing extremist, if they are going to say it anyway we may as well just run an actual conservative, especially one who will fight back. We have nothing to lose running Cruz or someone like him.
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Whatever you expect to happen to Cruz will happen to those who are said to be electable. Look at how they painted Romney as some right wing extremist, if they are going to say it anyway we may as well just run an actual conservative, especially one who will fight back. We have nothing to lose running Cruz or someone like him.
Problem is the GOP, will they throw their weight behind Cruz or some non-conservative like they have been?
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Problem is the GOP, will they throw their weight behind Cruz or some non-conservative like they have been?
The GOP will throw their weight behind whoever they think the media will like.
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The GOP will throw their weight behind whoever they think the media will like.
Using my fictional spirit-guide prognostication skills I have to say that Freep is right.
I see it happening this way…
As the election draws closer and the potential Republican candidates make themselves known, the media will pick whichever Republican candidate that APPEARS to be a moderate but is known to go left. The media will play up their chosen candidate while raging against all others. Once the media candidate gets the Republican nomination, the media will then turn on the chosen Republican candidate and rage against him or her until the election.
The moral of the story is…
Do NOT vote for who you think can win because that can be deceptive. We’ve seen that in the last two elections. Vote for who you think will do the best job. Campaign for the individual. And maybe, just maybe, we’ll be surprised with morning again in America instead of more of the current mourning.
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I'm pretty sure mainstream media, and that includes Fox unfortunately, have already chosen the GOP candidate for 2016. It will be Obama's fat boyfriend from New Jersey. They are all beating the drums already.
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Too controversial. I think Johny Mac deserves another shot he just needs to be repackaged.
Too old, too senile.
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Too old, too senile.
Thus the need for repackaging. I just love to see the sad look on his face when (post-primaries) the media turns on him.
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Walker/West
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Walker/West
I like that one :-)
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I like that one :-)
Cheney/Rove.
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This is from the same group that's going to howl like banshee's if Hillary gets the nomination because, you know, she part of the 1% or something.
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Cheney/Rove.
....um no
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Some of this may get me bitchslapped, but that’s okay. When I get enough I’ll make a sweater out of them.
I don’t know if I’ve told this story before, but when I was a little kid my parents had some friends visiting. My dad’s friend pulled out a pouch of chewing tobacco and put a wad in his mouth. I told him I wanted some. The guy looked at my dad, and my dad said to go ahead. Mom just about had a conniption fit, but dad waved her off. The guy gave me just a small amount. I put it in my mouth and within seconds turned green. It was years before I even thought about touching any type of tobacco products again.
My dad knew that sometimes it takes letting someone see first hand that what they THINK they want is not actually what they need. From now on, that’s how I’m going to vote.
I’m not going to vote for another moderate conservative. If the GOP runs someone like Cruz, I’ll gladly vote for him. If they run another McCain, I’ll vote democrat regardless of who the dem is. I'll give the country what it THINKS it wants.
My thoughts at this point is that if we’re not going to be serious about saving the sinking ship then it is best to go ahead and let it sink so the grownups can begin the salvage operation.
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I’m not going to vote for another moderate conservative. If the GOP runs someone like Cruz, I’ll gladly vote for him. If they run another McCain, I’ll vote democrat regardless of who the dem is. I'll give the country what it THINKS it wants.
I won't vote for the Dem, but otherwise I agree. Basically, I just won't vote for the POTUS if all I have to choose from is a lib and a pretend conservative (Chris Christie comes to mind).
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The GOP will throw their weight behind whoever they think the media will like.
Or NOT throw their weight behind the GOP candidate.
Just like they did in Virginia. :argh:
BASTARDS!
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Some of this may get me bitchslapped, but that’s okay. When I get enough I’ll make a sweater out of them.
I don’t know if I’ve told this story before, but when I was a little kid my parents had some friends visiting. My dad’s friend pulled out a pouch of chewing tobacco and put a wad in his mouth. I told him I wanted some. The guy looked at my dad, and my dad said to go ahead. Mom just about had a conniption fit, but dad waved her off. The guy gave me just a small amount. I put it in my mouth and within seconds turned green. It was years before I even thought about touching any type of tobacco products again.
My dad knew that sometimes it takes letting someone see first hand that what they THINK they want is not actually what they need. From now on, that’s how I’m going to vote.
I’m not going to vote for another moderate conservative. If the GOP runs someone like Cruz, I’ll gladly vote for him. If they run another McCain, I’ll vote democrat regardless of who the dem is. I'll give the country what it THINKS it wants.
My thoughts at this point is that if we’re not going to be serious about saving the sinking ship then it is best to go ahead and let it sink so the grownups can begin the salvage operation.
I see your point, Chuck. Sometimes, you have to give the patient some gawdawful bitter medicine before he gets better, the only problem is the DOE is worse than "Typhoid Mary", spreading the "disease" nationwide. It can be done, it just might take a 2X4 applied to the forehead of liberals for them to see reason. (And yes, I MEAN a REAL 2X4!)
I'm pretty sure mainstream media, and that includes Fox unfortunately, have already chosen the GOP candidate for 2016. It will be Obama's fat boyfriend from New Jersey. They are all beating the drums already.
They thought the same thing in 2000 with Gulliani, and 2004 with McLame.
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Some of this may get me bitchslapped, but that’s okay. When I get enough I’ll make a sweater out of them.
I don’t know if I’ve told this story before, but when I was a little kid my parents had some friends visiting. My dad’s friend pulled out a pouch of chewing tobacco and put a wad in his mouth. I told him I wanted some. The guy looked at my dad, and my dad said to go ahead. Mom just about had a conniption fit, but dad waved her off. The guy gave me just a small amount. I put it in my mouth and within seconds turned green. It was years before I even thought about touching any type of tobacco products again.
My dad knew that sometimes it takes letting someone see first hand that what they THINK they want is not actually what they need. From now on, that’s how I’m going to vote.
I’m not going to vote for another moderate conservative. If the GOP runs someone like Cruz, I’ll gladly vote for him. If they run another McCain, I’ll vote democrat regardless of who the dem is. I'll give the country what it THINKS it wants.
My thoughts at this point is that if we’re not going to be serious about saving the sinking ship then it is best to go ahead and let it sink so the grownups can begin the salvage operation.
The problem is the dolists (http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/Dolist). The United States is a big, militarily powerful country. Greece, Argentina, Chole, Venezuela, Italy, some pissant African country can all sink, hit bottom and have to figure out how to make their culture and economy work. The (People's) Republic of the United States will adopt a version of the Duquesne Plan (http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/DuQuesne_Plan) and go a conquering to support it's massive welfare state.
You don't think all of those people that are used to getting government money are going to allow the spigot to be turned even down a little bit do you? No, they will vote for whatever demagogue promises them to keep the money flowing. We already tolerate a Department of Homeland Security (http://honorverse.wikia.com/wiki/Office_of_Internal_Security) that has jack nothing to do with terrorism. Next will come expansion to cover the deficits.
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You know the clueless left is always wishing people like Cruz would run in the general election, while the instigators on the left are always sabotaging them in the primary while propping the RINO-progressives like Romney and McCain. If Cruz made it out of the primary we are talking about Reagan landslide victory territory.