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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Chris_ on October 23, 2013, 08:21:13 PM
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In the wake of the disastrous rollout of HealthCare.gov, the website where consumers can purchase health insurance, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) has begun drafting a bill that would delay the Affordable Care Act's individual mandate by a year, his office confirmed.
It's unclear what the Manchin-sponsored legislation would contain, but the version being floated would delay the penalty for not purchasing insurance. Customers could still purchase insurance if they wish.
Manchin's legislation would be separate from that of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who is planning to introduce a bill that would delay the mandate's penalties until six months after the Government Accountability Office (GAO) certifies that the online exchanges are functional.
Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/obamacare-individual-mandate-delay-joe-manchin-senate-2013-10)
Apparently he's found five other jackasses that are up for re-election and desperate to take a ride on his bandwagon.
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Didn't the House do that last week already and Obama and Reid wouldn't disguss it or bring it up for a vote?
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It's only racist when our side does it.
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Queen Jeanne the Spending Machine Shaheen being one of those on the chopping block.
She's got to know that between this and her stand on gun control, her internal polling is making her about as popular as a turd in the punchbowl at the church social.
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Queen Jeanne the Spending Machine Shaheen being one of those on the chopping block.
She's got to know that between this and her stand on gun control, her internal polling is making her about as popular as a turd in the punchbowl at the church social.
Is it a polished turd ? Can one pick it up by the clean end ?
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Screw the Dimrats. They blocked Cruz from doing this, now let them own it. Word is that Obama is already saving their bacon by reinterpreting his own law to delay the penalties and extend the sign up window.
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Screw the Dimrats. They blocked Cruz from doing this, now let them own it. Word is that Obama is already saving their bacon by reinterpreting his own law to delay the penalties and extend the sign up window.
There is an election in just over a year, so I fully expect some kind of fix to happen.
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The press is hyperventilating over this but they apparently haven't noticed the massive number of folks that have been dumped by their employers and/or insurance companys.
Those people aren't worried about a $95 fine, they need insurance for their families.
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In a normal world, or at least one where the President isn't a democrat, this would be seen as an epic fail. With this oministration and his lapdogs in the press, I wouldn't be surprised if the press heaps massive amounts of praise on obama for doing the compassionate thing by delaying the mandate.
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In a normal world, or at least one where the President isn't a democrat, this would be seen as an epic fail. With this oministration and his lapdogs in the press, I wouldn't be surprised if the press heaps massive amounts of praise on obama for doing the compassionate thing by delaying the mandate.
Toy tops, gyrocopters, gyroscopes....all work off very fast rotational motion.....so does the democrat party and MSM.
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Desperation sets in.
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if the vote ended up like the original obamacare vote? Make the dems be the only ones that vote to delay their petty little god's "signature legislation".
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The press is hyperventilating over this but they apparently haven't noticed the massive number of folks that have been dumped by their employers and/or insurance companys.
Those people aren't worried about a $95 fine, they need insurance for their families.
It's $95 or 1% of your income, which ever is more. But that's only the first year. It goes up each year after that.
For individuals (whichever is greater)
2014 $95 or 1% of income above tax filing threshold ($9,500 in 2011)
2015 $325 or 2% of income above tax filing threshold
2016 $695 or 2.5% of income above tax filing threshold
Note: Penalty for dependents under age 18 is one half of the individual amount.
For families (whichever is greater)
2014 $285 or 1% of income above tax filing threshold
2015 $975 or 2% of income above tax filing threshold
2016 $2085 or 2.5% of income above tax filing threshold
For sample penalty calculations, click here »
http://www.nfib.com/research-foundation/cribsheets/individual-mandate
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Contractor behind HealthCare.gov to testify extra testing could not have saved site
A top executive with CGI Federal, one of the contractors paid millions to create the ObamaCare website, says “no amount of testing†could have prevented the site’s problem-plagued start.
Senior Vice President Cheryl Campbell’s remarks are part of prepared testimony she will give before a Republican-led House hearing Thursday on the insurance-marketplace site. They also appear to challenge new claims by the administration that a lack of adequate testing was part of the problem.
The House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing is the first since the site’s disastrous Oct. 1 launch -- marked by crashes, slow response times and its inability to let customers make purchases.
Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/23/obamacare-site-fixer-no-amount-testing-could-have-prevented-disastrous-launch/)
Oh, hey look at... this.
Ridiculous.
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Less than 50 years ago this Nation rose to the challenge and landed a man on the moon and returned him to earth. A technological feat never accomplished by anyone before.
Fast forward to today and this oministration can't get a website that is to serve a large number of people to function even though the technology has existed for several years and is being used successfully every day by Amazon, Facebook, and eBay just to name a few.
History will show obama for the miserable failure and horrible leader that he is.
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Less than 50 years ago this Nation rose to the challenge and landed a man on the moon and returned him to earth. A technological feat never accomplished by anyone before.
I'll bet the total computing power available and used by NASA was less than most of us have in our home computers.
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I'll bet the total computing power available and used by NASA was less than most of us have in our home computers.
Do you remember during the Bush administration, NASA put out an APB for obsolete hardware to keep the Space Shuttles in spare parts? 8080 Intel chips, floppy drives, ribbon cables. It was pretty weird.
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Ted Cruz Won
What about support to delay Obamacare’s implementation? That’s a ploy to save Obamacare.
Pay attention who is calling for a delay. Partisans like Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV), John Stewart, Wolf Blitzer and Robert Gibbs know a delay today means preservation tomorrow. That’s why they support it. It is the modern Rope-a-Dope. Muhammad Ali famously employed his Rope-a-Dope to delay the fight, wear down, and eventually knock out his spent opponents. Focusing on Obamacare’s delay, and not its destruction, is an effort to preserve Obamacare.
The failures of Obamacare couldn’t be worse. Obamacare has become a punch line, a joke, a catastrophic catastrophe, squared. So have at it. Prove that a shutdown-less environment could lead to killing off the program. Go win the narrative you said you could win.
But we may learn that the Cruz-led fight focused the nation on the failures of Obamacare in a way that no pundit or consultant can match. If the Cruz-less narrative fails to win the field and end Obamacare, then Cruz wins yet again.
PJ Media (http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2013/10/23/ted-cruz-won/?singlepage=true)
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PJ Media (http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2013/10/23/ted-cruz-won/?singlepage=true)
You're damn right he won. His position was never about trying to unite republicans against obamacare, never about rallying a fight against Dirty Harry's democrat Senate, he knew it was fruitless to get the likes of McCain and King to do anything but lick obama's butt.
He knows his target, and it wasn't the democrats.
Despite what others may think, his strategy was as brilliant as it was effective. Ted Cruz won this one because he did something no other republican has done in decades - he played the long game.
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Suddenly Obama's fall-on-the-sword nonnegotiable scorched-earth-back-to-the-Fatherland ultimate principle is being pitched over the side by his own minions. Delicious!
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Didn't the House do that last week already and Obama and Reid wouldn't disguss it or bring it up for a vote?
They offered to do so, but the head pederast said no.
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You're damn right he won. His position was never about trying to unite republicans against obamacare, never about rallying a fight against Dirty Harry's democrat Senate, he knew it was fruitless to get the likes of McCain and King to do anything but lick obama's butt.
He knows his target, and it wasn't the democrats.
Despite what others may think, his strategy was as brilliant as it was effective. Ted Cruz won this one because he did something no other republican has done in decades - he played the long game.
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You ******* right, he did.
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Screw the Dimrats. They blocked Cruz from doing this, now let them own it. Word is that Obama is already saving their bacon by reinterpreting his own law to delay the penalties and extend the sign up window.
Yes he is.
http://news.yahoo.com/obamacare-101-enroll-march-31-avoid-penalty-white-130608492.html
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Screw the Dimrats. They blocked Cruz from doing this, now let them own it. Word is that Obama is already saving their bacon by reinterpreting his own law to delay the penalties and extend the sign up window.
It's a trap. Delaying can't be an option. I wish there were R's with balls to keep pushing.
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I'll bet the total computing power available and used by NASA was less than most of us have in our home computers. cell phones.
FIFY. And it was, by several orders of magnitude.
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Desperation sets in.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fuWH0dYago[/youtube]
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There is an election in just over a year, so I fully expect some kind of fix to happen.
Fix? Pfft. They'll kick the can down the road to just beyond the midterms.
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Fix? Pfft. They'll kick the can down the road to just beyond the midterms.
That is how they usually fix things.
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The desperation here is really hilarious.
I mean, we just had this huge fight over delaying the law where Democrats refused to even listen to the chorus of cries from Americans saying that this law was a failure. Now that they realize it, and realize they have an election next year, they are running scared.
Considering every single Democrat senator up next year has endorsed a delay tells you really all you need to know.
They are terrified of this law. They know its going to sink them next year.
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Manchin is from West Virginia. Was the governor until Bobby Byrd passed away and he took his spot.