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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Billiam Pitts on October 23, 2013, 07:59:58 AM
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And then go on a tear through the History of Feminism group. These dames are out for blood!
:pms: :angryvillagers:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125527699
redqueen (103,569 posts)
Meet the 'Nice Guy' Pickup Artists
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Except their videos aren't harmless; they promote rape culture. Consider this video on "How to Get Laid By Setting Up Your Room," which has over half a million views. Some tips I learned before I got too grossed out to continue watching: fluffy blankets will entice your date to lie down and want to cuddle, which "leads to oral sex and then, you know, insertion." It's "counterproductive" if she sits anywhere else but on your bed, so put random objects on all of the chairs in your room! Offer to give her a massage, then tell her her shirt is getting in the way, then sneak her bra off until "bang boom she's naked." Always have alcohol lying around, because "girls feel like they need to drink to relax for some reason, which is good for you" because "if you even have a sip of alcohol you're allowed to do stuff with her." Christ. Why don't you just roofie her before she walks in the door to save time and energy?
There's been a lot of discussion lately about whether "nice guys" can be rapists. The answer is no; you can not be "tricked" or "confused" into raping anyone. That's why, even though Kong, Jesse and Jason aren't the first pickup artists out there and they won't be the last, they need to be called out for trying to rebrand pickup culture as something that's not only for creeps who want to get laid by any means possible but for the average well-meaning Joe, too.
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The first words you hear in the trailer — after "That girl. Right there. Go" — is "ass ass ass ass" and "motorboat time!"; the rest of the video doesn't deviate from their YouTube channel in the slightest. Since when does improving your social life require treating women as objects to be won and then ****ed before they even know what's happening to them? It doesn't.
These aren't nice guys. They're dicks who treat dating like a video game and women as shiny gold collateral; the more you collect/bang, the higher your self-esteem rises, and the easier it is to forget that you're an insecure shell of a person.
http://jezebel.com/5967279/meet-the-nice-guy-pickup-artists
fitman (472 posts)
1. I just watched the video.. it was done as tongue in cheek humor for a immature 16 yr male audience
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....I'll show it to my wife tonight and she will laugh her azz off at it and will probably send it to her female friends.
Most women if they found themselves in these scenarios would laugh and tell the guy what a pathetic idiot he is and walk out....
Fluffy blankets lead to sex?? LOL
Offer to give her a massage, then tell her her shirt is getting in the way, then sneak her bra off until "bang boom she's naked."
Well good massages and spooning do often lead to forking.
seabeyond (87,651 posts)
2. The age of a rapist is???? Hey, clue in. Do not come into this forum, be dismissive of women
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Using your wife as a deflector. I will call that shit out loud and fast
fitman (472 posts)
4. My wife is a strong and independent woman
3rd in her class rank of Veterinary Science Ohio State class of 1987..has her own vet practice with 16 employees. which she started from scratch.
She does not get offended over such miniscule stuff..does not go out blaming men for every perceived little infraction as some people do.. "oh woe me I am a victim"..Tough as nails cowgirl who does not take shit from anyone.
The video in question is a stupid azz video that most real men and women would laugh at.
I'm not being dismissive over rape, assault or bullying of women..by men of any age the video in question is much ado about nothing.
The "Crazy Girlfriend" videos and meme's put out by that woman are much in the same vein.. they are done in humor and men and women laugh at them.
seabeyond (87,651 posts)
11. you USE your wife to derail conversation in dismissing womens issues. many times. every time.
redqueen (103,569 posts)
12. So... you think we should be impressed that you and your super special wife
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don't think that "jokes" that normalize rape culture are a problem?
I don't think they are joking but I honestly don't give a shit.
The point (which you, your awesome wife, and anyone else who agrees that laughing is the best response to this is failing so hard to note) is that shit like this normalizes rape culture.
There are two kinds of rape jokes. Those that illustrate how ****ed up rape and rape culture are, and those that portray it as a laughing matter. Guess which one you just laughed at.
And again, whether they're even joking isn't a settled matter. You casually excused their rape tips and rape apologia by spinning it as humor, after watching one video. Interesting...
redqueen (103,569 posts)
18. Isn't it so nice when men use terms like "actual rape"?
I mean the term is just awesome no matter who says it, but its extra super awesome when it"s a man saying it, especially in a feminist group.
Another super great thing is when they tell is how this woman they know / are related to would agree with them, so there.
MadrasT (6,086 posts)
19. I love how we get men coming in to this thread
to explain to us how we wimminz are overreacting again.
It's like ****ing clockwork.
redqueen (103,569 posts)
20. Yep. Whatever would we poor emotional, illogical wimminz do
without these calm, rational menz to tell us what is and is not worth worrying our pretty little heads about?
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I take it the womyn in the feminist forums don't very much care for guys.
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I take it the womyn in the feminist forums don't very much care for guys.
A man merely looking at a women constitutes rape. That's no joke, their postings and attitude really suggests that.
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A man merely looking at a women constitutes rape. That's no joke, their postings and attitude really suggests that.
You know, a lot of these womyn's problems could be solved by a simple surgical procedure, to set those things that make them female, back into order. It's usually just a tiny birth-defect, and once it's done, one becomes more laid-back and mellow about things.
But some womyn just like to be miserable, I suppose.
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redqueen (103,569 posts)
18. Isn't it so nice when men use terms like "actual rape"?
I mean the term is just awesome no matter who says it, but its extra super awesome when it"s a man saying it, especially in a feminist group.
Another super great thing is when they tell is how this woman they know / are related to would agree with them, so there.
Ahemmm. Whoopie Goldberg anyone?
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A man merely looking at a women constitutes rape. That's no joke, their postings and attitude really suggests that.
You know, I really resent their attitude; after all, I've always been a nice guy to women.
I resent that just because franksolich has a certain, uh, piece of equipment they don't have and wished they had, he's an enemy of women.
Yeah, right.
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This group here is like a echo chamber within the larger echo chamber of DUmmieville. There is absolutely "NO" veering off the path in this forum. If so it's the burning stake for you. :rotf:
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You know, I really resent their attitude; after all, I've always been a nice guy to women.
I resent that just because franksolich has a certain, uh, piece of equipment they don't have and wished they had, he's an enemy of women.
Yeah, right.
Careful, coach. There's nothing preventing those DUmpmonkey womyn from heading over to the hardware store and buying their own SK wrench.
Not only will they have a tool, they can also buy some nuts.
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I take it the womyn in the feminist forums don't very much care for guys.
I swear they are of the opinion that any action a man takes to initiate sex is rape.
By God's long ears the articles are talking about placing objects in chairs to lead women to sit next to their dates.
That's rape?
What next?
"He gave her a box of chocolates that she then ate leading to a sense of elation commonly referred to as a "sugar buzz." Due to this agitated state of diminished capacity the woman mistook her hyperactivity for libidinous yearnings and proceeded to engage in sexual intercourse that she may not have consented to had she not been giving the sugary treats. A sentencing hearing will be held later this month.
Don't want to sit next to him on the bed? Take the ****ing junk off the chair! Buncha infantile prats.
Conservatives: the men who enjoy look at boobeez, particularly if they're shooting guns but will assume the responsibility for any children they bear yet are incessantly accused of waging a war against women
Liberals: infantile, debilitated women who are too ****ing stupid to know when to not sit on the bed with someone they don't want to have sex with them and the men who pander to them looking for ***** that won't keep the baby
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\Don't want to sit next to him on the bed? Take the ****ing junk off the chair! Buncha infantile prats
Well she did accept an invitation into the bedroom. I can see where a guy would think he was rounding the bases if he got her that far.
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Well she did accept an invitation into the bedroom. I can see where a guy would think he was rounding the bases if he got her that far.
True, and a "Nice guy" knows when to stick instead of steal. Redqueen and seabeyond are simply Dworkinite castrating bitches, I'm not sure if they're closet lesbos who are tense from not facing their own orientation issues, or secret dominatrices who want to exercise power through scorn.
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DUmpmonkey wymynz---------> :suckup: <--------Pedro
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As hard as he tries, they are never going to accept him as a fellow lesbian or lesbian fellow.