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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on October 20, 2013, 07:29:04 PM
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srican69 (1,058 posts)
What is your opinion of healthcare.gov? (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023883682)
18 votes, 10 passes | Time left: Unlimited
It is disaster 0 (0%)
it is a ****ing disaster 18 (100%)
10 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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Response to srican69 (Original post)Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:46 AM
mucifer (8,824 posts)
10. I'm hoping the ACA won't lose us 2014
Hope all you want, DUmmy.
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srican69 (1,058 posts)
What is your opinion of healthcare.gov?
18 votes, 10 passes | Time left: Unlimited
It is disaster 0 (0%)
it is a ****ing disaster 18 (100%)
10 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
I am laughing at your stupid assed dummies!! We told you and told you and told you. You called us everything but a white person. This is what you get. I really hope ya all freaking feel the pain and I hope you feel it loooooong and haaaaard.
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First, the idiotic shutdown and national debt threats took attention away from the website calamity.
Now the website calamity is taking attention away from horrendous premiums and shitty coverage.
When the whole mess becomes known, there will be tremendous pressure for a full socialized system.
That's all terrible for the democrats, but the crazies on our side will probably bail them out by simply sounding crazy.
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First, the idiotic shutdown and national debt threats took attention away from the website calamity.
Now the website calamity is taking attention away from horrendous premiums and shitty coverage.
When the whole mess becomes known, there will be tremendous pressure for a full socialized system.
That's all terrible for the democrats, but the crazies on our side will probably bail them out by simply sounding crazy.
Sounds about right to me. :thatsright:
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First, the idiotic shutdown and national debt threats took attention away from the website calamity.
Now the website calamity is taking attention away from horrendous premiums and shitty coverage.
When the whole mess becomes known, there will be tremendous pressure for a full socialized system.
That's all terrible for the democrats, but the crazies on our side will probably bail them out by simply sounding crazy.
That was the plan all along, GB.
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First, the idiotic shutdown and national debt threats took attention away from the website calamity.
Now the website calamity is taking attention away from horrendous premiums and shitty coverage.
When the whole mess becomes known, there will be tremendous pressure for a full socialized system.
That's all terrible for the democrats, but the crazies on our side will probably bail them out by simply sounding crazy.
Are you saying objecting to the present system or socialized medicine is crazy?
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You DUmmies want it so much. So, why complain about it now? :whatever: ::) :???: :mental:
You get what you want, so I suggest you zip it!
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Are you saying objecting to the present system or socialized medicine is crazy?
Nope. Socialized medicine, even to the limited extent of this "reform", is an abomination.
But to most people, defaulting on the national debt as a political tactic sounds very crazy.
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Nope. Socialized medicine, even to the limited extent of this "reform", is an abomination.
But to most people, defaulting on the national debt as a political tactic sounds very crazy.
With approximately $250B coming in each month and a current debt service of about $20 to $30B, how exactly does one default on the national debt?
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Nope. Socialized medicine, even to the limited extent of this "reform", is an abomination.
But to most people, defaulting on the national debt as a political tactic sounds very crazy.
I agree with you, GB. Not with the MSM carrying obumbles water for him. That was stupidity if you ask me. The GOP should have looked for some real spending cuts and let obumbles care fail all on it's own. They was never gonna win on that. Sometimes you just gotta do a tactical retreat in order to win the war.
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With approximately $250B coming in each month and a current debt service of about $20 to $30B, how exactly does one default on the national debt?
Only if Preznit Sand Wedge chooses to.
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I agree with you, GB. Not with the MSM carrying obumbles water for him. That was stupidity if you ask me. The GOP should have looked for some real spending cuts and let obumbles care fail all on it's own. They was never gonna win on that. Sometimes you just gotta do a tactical retreat in order to win the war.
If you don't stand on principle, you'll fall for anything. Even people on the left have said they now agree with Cruz even if they don't like his tactics. As time goes on, he'll be proved right. He and a few others (and not just politicians) managed to rise above the fray. They never lost their cool, they weren't even called racist with the usual zeal. He even made 0bama going on defense. I'm sick to death of us never standing up on principle. This same argument that's made about 0bamacare was made about part D. It's still a mess and it's still here. I can't think of one entitlement that's ever been cancelled. It's going to fall anyway. People will remember that not everyone did the whole "go along to get along" strategy that always fails.
Everyone on both sides, with the exception of a few are forgetting the mood of the country and that almost 90% think we're going in the wrong direction. That is more important than anything. It's not getting any better. I've seen this before. And the left is severely overplaying their hand. Their language lately, the way they talk, calling half the country terrorists, etc. will get them in trouble. People will look for someone who's unafraid. At least we have a few who will do that now. Following the "recommended" course the press, the left and the RINOs tell us we should go hasn't ever worked but we keep doing it over and over again. I believe that's the definition of insanity.
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This says it better than I could: Corrupt Bastards Club (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/20/Sarah-Palin-Exclusive-Op-Ed-DC-Corrupt-Bastards-Club)
Cindie
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If you don't stand on principle, you'll fall for anything. Even people on the left have said they now agree with Cruz even if they don't like his tactics. As time goes on, he'll be proved right. He and a few others (and not just politicians) managed to rise above the fray. They never lost their cool, they weren't even called racist with the usual zeal. He even made 0bama going on defense. I'm sick to death of us never standing up on principle. This same argument that's made about 0bamacare was made about part D. It's still a mess and it's still here. I can't think of one entitlement that's ever been cancelled. It's going to fall anyway. People will remember that not everyone did the whole "go along to get along" strategy that always fails.
Everyone on both sides, with the exception of a few are forgetting the mood of the country and that almost 90% think we're going in the wrong direction. That is more important than anything. It's not getting any better. I've seen this before. And the left is severely overplaying their hand. Their language lately, the way they talk, calling half the country terrorists, etc. will get them in trouble. People will look for someone who's unafraid. At least we have a few who will do that now. Following the "recommended" course the press, the left and the RINOs tell us we should go hasn't ever worked but we keep doing it over and over again. I believe that's the definition of insanity.
Damn. :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
(The last two are from the NSA analysts who are reading this. :-) )
H5 duly given.
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Poor Dummies.
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Are you saying objecting to the present system or socialized medicine is crazy?
You have fallen prey to the leftist bastardization of language, which serves their ends.
Health care/medical care in the United States is not a "system". A system is an organizational model consisting of one "whole" of connected elements, which can be controlled from a single point. If it can't be controlled, it is not part of the system.
Health care is several marketplaces, some of which connect or abut others. Those marketplaces are subject to the law of supply and demand, just as any other marketplace. The government is attempting to control those marketplaces. That attempt to control medical care is fascistic, by definition. The next step is socializing the medical marketplaces.
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You have fallen prey to the leftist bastardization of language, which serves their ends.
Health care/medical care in the United States is not a "system". A system is an organizational model consisting of one "whole" of connected elements, which can be controlled from a single point. If it can't be controlled, it is not part of the system.
Health care is several marketplaces, some of which connect or abut others. Those marketplaces are subject to the law of supply and demand, just as any other marketplace. The government is attempting to control those marketplaces. That attempt to control medical care is fascistic, by definition. The next step is socializing the medical marketplaces.
I haven't fallen for shit. The "system" I was referring to is O'bummer care not what we had before, which has often been referred to as the best "system" in the world.
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Let's not get in a big slap-fight here over the terms in their obvious little mole trap.
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What or who will Obama blame for the disaster of Obama's cACA HellCare?
Because until something goes right you can be your last dollar that it won't be Obama. The media is riding to the rescue saying that Obama should get mad at his own management of the situation....I mean someone else. Look for some BP oil spill tough guyness and a "Whose ass do I kick" bravado from the petty man child.
You know you in over your head when you cannot even implement your own disastrous policies. The horrendous roll out under Obama's management is just more proof that King Barky the Incompetent should have never risen farther than dog catcher.
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If Obamacare was a hunting dog.....you'd kill the dog and leave his body in the woods.
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:rotf: I bet srican69 gets canned for opening up this topic :rotf:
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Nope. Socialized medicine, even to the limited extent of this "reform", is an abomination.
But to most people, defaulting on the national debt as a political tactic sounds very crazy.
Look at the bright side John Mcain agrees with you.
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Mark Stein was in for Rush today and there was this idiot arguing that because of imminent domain the government owns and can take anything they want anyway as an argument for socialized medicine.
The guy started out saying everyone has to buy car insurance so health insurance should be the same. It was a perfect opportunity for Stein to point out that everyone doesn't have to buy car insurance and that among those that do, high risk drivers pay more in premiums because low risk drivers shouldn't have to subsidise high risk ones.
The left always brings up "general welfare" as the reason for everything they want to socialize. Maybe the founders should have explained it so a 4 year old could understand it.
Cindie
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Mark Stein was in for Rush today and there was this idiot arguing that because of imminent domain the government owns and can take anything they want anyway as an argument for socialized medicine.
The guy started out saying everyone has to buy car insurance so health insurance should be the same. It was a perfect opportunity for Stein to point out that everyone doesn't have to buy car insurance and that among those that do, high risk drivers pay more in premiums because low risk drivers shouldn't have to subsidise high risk ones.
The left always brings up "general welfare" as the reason for everything they want to socialize. Maybe the founders should have explained it so a 4 year old could understand it.
Cindie
They did make it so a four year old could understand it, the typical leftist functions on a two year old level, so they can't understand it.
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Only if Preznit Sand Wedge chooses to.
Exactly.
Not raising the debt ceiling would actually show fiscal restraint.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHKiRtYMKBc[/youtube]
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They did make it so a four year old could understand it, the typical leftist functions on a two year old level, so they can't understand it.
This all goes back to Algore as vice-president (and maybe before), but why do Democraps talk down to people such as they do? Is it because their base is composed of sub-60 IQ morons?
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Look at the bright side John Mcain agrees with you.
Too many people think you have to choose between democrats and the nuts at JimRob's place, stacking sandbags around their houses.
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Everyone on both sides, with the exception of a few are forgetting the mood of the country and that almost 90% think we're going in the wrong direction. That is more important than anything. It's not getting any better. I've seen this before. And the left is severely overplaying their hand. Their language lately, the way they talk, calling half the country terrorists, etc. will get them in trouble. People will look for someone who's unafraid. At least we have a few who will do that now. Following the "recommended" course the press, the left and the RINOs tell us we should go hasn't ever worked but we keep doing it over and over again. I believe that's the definition of insanity.
To add to this:
what has Obama really won? He keeps his precious healthcare reform and he gets government open again – but tomorrow morning he'll still have the same gridlocked political system that he had the night before. The shutdown is a rare example of him winning, but remember that this lame duck president has not only had a very simple (and, frankly, inoffensive) gun control bill killed in the Senate but was so spooked by bad poll numbers that he tried to dump responsibility for military action in Syria onto the Congress – before quietly dropping the idea altogether. Any thought that the shutdown payoff will be that he can sail an immigration reform package comfortably through Congress is pure fantasy. This is a broken presidency living out its last few years either holding off Republican attacks or lazily cruising the country on some pointless, endless, fatuous campaign trail. Obama's administration is politically bankrupt.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100241757/us-debt-ceiling-crisis-barack-obama-has-won-the-shutdown-his-prize-is-a-lame-duck-presidency/
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I haven't fallen for shit. The "system" I was referring to is O'bummer care not what we had before, which has often been referred to as the best "system" in the world.
Healthcare as we knew it wasn't a system.
Obamacare isn't a system.
The essential delusion of the Statists is that a central government can control the provision of medical goods and services, and overcome the law of supply and demand. Using the word "system" plays into their delusion.
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Only if Preznit Sand Wedge chooses to.
King putt.
Steve sang about him awhile back, he pronounces putt "tut"...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgTPH5y1-ZI[/youtube]
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The left always brings up "general welfare" as the reason for everything they want to socialize.
It seems to me that they just don't want to take care of themselves. Want someone else to always do it. Everything they do leads me to that conclusion.
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It seems to me that they just don't want to take care of themselves. Want someone else to always do it. Everything they do leads me to that conclusion.
You too, eh?
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[youtube=425,350]2Qtx_ZcHOjw[/youtube]
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It seems to me that they just don't want to take care of themselves. Want someone else to always do it. Everything they do leads me to that conclusion.
And here it is in there own words:
“I was laughing at Boehner — until the mail came today,” Waschura said, referring to House Speaker John Boehner, who is leading the Republican charge to defund Obamacare.
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“Of course, I want people to have health care,” Vinson said. “I just didn’t realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally.”
quoted from:
http://dcclothesline.com/2013/10/08/democrat-voters-confused-i-didnt-realize-i-would-be-the-one-who-was-going-to-pay-for-it-personally/
as it said earlier in the article:
But those who understand that socialism, communism and governance by the collective are failed experiments, warned where that money would come from. It would be taken by force from the toils of the middle class, and it’d impoverish them in the process.
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[youtube=425,350]2Qtx_ZcHOjw[/youtube]
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
This one will go viral. Obie will be bailing out Big Tobacco before you know it after this one as the stress of losing Jon Stewart and his base sink in.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poX5HKawxo8[/youtube]
(eta I mean of course the video Rebel posted of Jon Stewart not Obie sneaking butts)
I can hardly wait to see him in the door of Marine One in his Nixon moment. He has made a shambles of everything he has touched it will be his legacy. Barack Obama, America's first Bi-racial president, a HUGE, one might even say EPIC, FAILURE.