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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on October 19, 2013, 12:12:32 PM
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gopiscrap (7,726 posts)
Question was the folks who built the ACA web site a private business? (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023884869)
It sure was, a Canadian company:
The Company That Built Obamacare Is Doing Better Than Ever
by Daniel Gross Oct 18, 2013 5:45 AM EDT
Soon after Healthcare.gov launched, users started reporting major problems. As blame flies around, there's one party that seems to have emerged unscathed—the company that built the faulty site.
A funny thing happens to the shares of large, largely anonymous federal contractors when they become implicated in a debacle: they rise. We saw this at work earlier this year with Booz Allen Hamilton. The firm, which gets virtually all of its revenue from the federal government, employed Edward Snowden, who proceeded to use the access afforded him by his post to grab and make public all sorts of embarrassing secret government information. But Booz Allen didn’t lose any contracts as a result or suffer much opprobrium in the public markets.
Now something similar is happening with CGI, the giant Canada-based information technology outsourcing company that has been heavily involved in the heavily botched roll out of Healthcare.gov, the federal health insurance exchange that is the centerpiece of Obamacare.
LINK (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/18/the-company-that-screwed-obamacare-is-doing-better-than-ever.html)
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And the DUmmies just discovered the truth, so I suppose the DUmp thread may die a quick death.
appleannie1 (3,240 posts)
8. Meet CGI Federal, the company behind the botched launch of HealthCare.gov
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/meet-cgi-federal-the-company-behind-the-botched-launch-of-healthcare-gov/
cilla4progress (3,268 posts)
9. Yikes...
Canada...
Here we go!
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And "gopiscrap" decided to post another thread about it, blaming private business, ignoring the fact that it is a Canadian company:
gopiscrap (7,730 posts)
The PRIVATE business that built the ACA website is: (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023884912)
CGI. This is just one reason why government responsibilities should NEVER be privatized!!!
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From the second thread:
malaise (111,285 posts)
2. And they were given a lot of contracts by Bushco
Truth is stranger than fiction
gopiscrap (7,731 posts)
3. That's ****ing crazy
they probably sabatoged the site
Ruby the Liberal (24,223 posts)
4. Wait - a Canadian company?
If it isn't an internal fed project, they couldn't have at least sourced it to a US contractor? No offense Canuks.
Dreamer Tatum (7,950 posts)
5. Yes, all high volume web activity should be government-built
Just look at the Apple, Amazon, Yahoo, and Google disasters, to name but a few.
Utter, sheer incompetence, all.
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/emoticons/eyes.gif)
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Oh just wait a minute.
You know there just has to be a connection between Obama/Democrats and this company. There is no way they are going to contract out to just anybody. If they don't get their kick backs, it ain't gonna happen.
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Actually, let's be clear: The foreign company is another resource outside of the United States for the Obama Administration to launder stolen money. Just another Scandinavian Electric Car company, another Chinese Internet services group, and now a Canadian socialist web development company.
So let's cut the crap that "incompetence" is at the heart of the problem. It's beyond even DUmmie rationality (well, maybe not, but stick with me on this) that a company could spend years and years of development time to produce, arguable, the single-worst data product rollout in computing history. In fact, the "incompetence" was DELIBERATE.
Obviously, the half-billion that is being laundered for the Obama and the Democrats is apparent. But more than that:
IF the site were working as well as ANY other website developed for a for-profit organization, then there would have been a MUCH BIGGER concern from the standpoint of the Dem socialists. The problem? If hundreds of thousands, or even millions, of people could successfully log on, then they would have been hit with the biggest sticker-shock in HISTORY. I would wager most socialists were expecting to sign up for free, or discounted medical care, when in reality (as WE all know) the prices of these plans are through the roof. I contend that if this sticker shock would have been collectively and immediately been felt, it would have significantly impacted many people's views on Obamacare to that of our side. MORE IMPORTANTLY, is the fact the mainstream media, who are at this point fully invested into the socialist mindset, would NOT have been able to suppress or manipulate this impact.
But when the site is PERCEIVED as being as screwed up as it is, then the sticker-shock effect would be diluted to the point where it's relatively easy to spin. In the meantime, at this point Obama is going to run out the clock as much as possible, using the media to force this to a head.
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Oh just wait a minute.
You know there just has to be a connection between Obama/Democrats and this company. There is no way they are going to contract out to just anybody. If they don't get their kick backs, it ain't gonna happen.
Here ya go..
Why did they get the work? The report hints at a likely reason: The companies were big lobbyists, with "some 17 contract winners reported spending more than $128 million on lobbying in 2011 and 2012." Granted, some experience with government work is vital for any contractor, and the federal procurement system is geared to favor those already doing government work, but Sunlight pointed out that the list tips heavily toward those with both existing contracts and political leverage.
From a really good article about the whole cluster-Fark
http://www.infoworld.com/t/e-government/how-federal-cronies-built-and-botched-healthcaregov-228724
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From what I understand, Teal Media, did the web site design.
The roll out has failed so bad, they've removed their logo and information from the site.
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malaise (111,285 posts)
2. And they were given a lot of contracts by Bushco
Truth is stranger than fiction
bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush BOOOOOOSH BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
Sorry, primitives, but the Bush train left the depot five years ago.
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Did the crap primitive skip out on grammar lessons in school, does one suppose?
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Dreamer Tatum (7,950 posts)
5. Yes, all high volume web activity should be government-built
Just look at the Apple, Amazon, Yahoo, and Google disasters, to name but a few.
Utter, sheer incompetence, all.
My guess....this idiot still uses OS/2 Warp and thinks there's no problem with the design of DU.
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My guess....this idiot still uses OS/2 Warp and thinks there's no problem with the design of DU.
Dreamer Tatum was poking fun at his fellow DUmmies as usual, I believe TRG. :cheersmate:
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Dreamer Tatum was poking fun at his fellow DUmmies as usual, I believe TRG. :cheersmate:
I'm with you, Ralphie. :cheersmate:
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Getting a government contract is a crazy maze of rules. It's been years since I've been involved in selling software to gov't, and only when I had to help out on a deal. Hate it. Way too many supposed rules. I say supposed because it looks like these contracts for Obamacare were no-bid.
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Getting a government contract is a crazy maze of rules. It's been years since I've been involved in selling software to g ov't, and only when I had to help out on a deal. Hate it. Way too many supposed rules. I say supposed because it looks like these contracts for Obamacare were no-bid.
It WAS a no-bid contract.
Also, check out the website stats at Alexa.com. A lot hits are coming from INDIA.
I think the canucks took obammy's cash and farmed out the development to Abu and Apu.
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gopiscrap (7,726 posts)
Question was the folks who built the ACA web site a private business?
Is reading that difficult? How about spelling?
cilla4progress (3,268 posts)
9. Yikes...
Canada...
Yeah. You know, Canada, who you drooling retards love to trot out whenever it suits your infantile worldview.
Yep, that's the one....
Oh just wait a minute.
You know there just has to be a connection between Obama/Democrats and this company. There is no way they are going to contract out to just anybody. If they don't get their kick backs, it ain't gonna happen.
Sure, to the tune of 650 million, ......and counting.
but, ....Boooooooosh.
These idiots need to be euthanized.
IF the site were working as well as ANY other website developed for a for-profit organization, then there would have been a MUCH BIGGER concern from the standpoint of the Dem socialists. The problem? If hundreds of thousands, or even millions, of people could successfully log on, then they would have been hit with the biggest sticker-shock in HISTORY.
Good point :hi5:
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bush bush bush bush bush bush bush bush BOOOOOOSH BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
Sorry, primitives, but the Bush train left the depot five years ago.
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Indeed - I figure that internet myths will soon build that CGI actually belongs to Bain Capital - making the rollout " Rmoney's " racist revenge.
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malaise (111,285 posts)
2. And they were given a lot of contracts by Bushco
Truth is stranger than fiction
Uh, Bush is no longer in the White House for 5 years.
They cannot move on passed the 2000 Election. :mental: :loser:
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Did the crap primitive skip out on grammar lessons in school, does one suppose?
It conflicted with Self-Esteem 101 and Revisionist History for the Synaptically-challenged.
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It WAS a no-bid contract.
Also, check out the website stats at Alexa.com. A lot hits are coming from INDIA.
I think the canucks took obammy's cash and farmed out the development to Abu and Apu.
Glorious dear leader funnels cash away to his stash while CGI sends the work to development wallahs. What a gig.