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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Karin on October 18, 2013, 03:33:59 PM
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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:37 PM
TheMastersNemesis (3,425 posts)
Most People Not Paying Attention. GOP May Not Be Hurt As Much As We Would Like.
People who vote GOP pretty much support what went on and support shut down and default. Conservatives are worse. And in the long run most people are not paying that much attention from what I can tell. Besides with a corrupt media that can hide, distort or even lie it is easy to shape public opinion. And blind hatred and racist blind so many voters you could tell them to jump off of a cliff and they would do it just to spite Obama.
Anymore I have very little faith in the country to do the right thing. The polls show damage but by election time almost all will be forgotten. False equivalency will set in. The GOP should lose control everywhere but I am not counting on it.
The Dems were more or less strong this time, but they were still a bit defensive. They should have come out with some real demands of their own. Now the Dems are acting like let by gones be by gones. They forget how they were trashed when the GOP had complete control. They just don't have the balls to play real smash face politics. These people should have been politically gutted by now.
I really just wanted to bring over some hilarious DUmmie math:
Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:57 PM
SDjack (1,175 posts)
9. The public needs to have the cost of the GOP shutdown explained to them.
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One estimate is the shutdown cost = $24 B. What is the number of taxpayers? I don't know, but let's say that it is 0.15 B persons.
Then the GOP shutdown cost the average taxpayer = $24 B / 0.15 B persons = $160 per person. If you pay more than average taxes, you will pay more than $160. And, you will get nothing for that.
Anyone have a better estimate for the number of taxpayers?
:lmao: He thinks that translates to a tax bill!
Response to SDjack (Reply #9)
Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:04 PM
Egnever (12,731 posts)
15. Well sort of
it wasn't lost government revenue though. It was lost economic production. Not the same thing.
The math you are doing doesn't really apply.
Well sort of not.
DUmp link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023875421)
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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:37 PM
TheMastersNemesis (3,425 posts)
Besides with a corrupt media that can hide, distort or even lie it is easy to shape public opinion.
Well, at least a very small nugget of truth.
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Well, at least a very small nugget of truth.
Even a blind possum can find a grub.
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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:22 PM
Mona (53 posts)
11. soundbites...
I hope that this episode has produced enough statements and quotes from the GOP to use during campaigns.
There are a lot of federal employees out there that I don't think will forget. However, I'm not sure they all have placed the blame squarely where it belongs.
Barrycades. Spitehouse. Million Vet March. Princess Threeputt's refusal to negotiate. And the number one soundbite of the shutdown brouhaha:
Now, this debt ceiling -- I just want to remind people in case you haven’t been keeping up -- raising the debt ceiling, which has been done over a hundred times, does not increase our debt; it does not somehow promote profligacy.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/09/18/remarks-president-business-roundtable
I think that last one has got legs.
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Hey there, DUmmie Mental Masturbater.
I just read a study of the media's "coverage" of this shutdown.
Between all the alphabet news outlets, of the 44 stories carried by them, NONE blamed Barry, Harry, or any of the dims for this shutdown.
This despite the fact the Republican run House, where all budget bills start, PASSED NUMEROUS bills to fund the government during this time, only to have them die in the dim(ly) run Senate, with "Scary" Harry Reid in charge, and threatened a veto by Barry (Vote Present) Obama.
F*** "fair and balanced", how about some "truth and facts" from our lameass media!
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It's always the "message" with them. People are too stupid. Of course, they're never wrong. There IS no other side where people have actually studied the issues and come to different ideas on the way to solve problems.
They think all they need is slogans! That's all they've had since the sixties. Slogans without substance.
Cindie
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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Original post)Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:22 PM
Mona (53 posts)
11. soundbites...
I hope that this episode has produced enough statements and quotes from the GOP to use during campaigns.
There are a lot of federal employees out there that I don't think will forget. However, I'm not sure they all have placed the blame squarely where it belongs.
Please....a lot of them got a free 2 week paid vacation.