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Title: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: I_B_Perky on October 11, 2013, 10:20:04 PM
I read about this drug a few weeks ago. I think it had appeared in Vegas. I'm wondering if this will be the end for the dummies?

Link:
Drugs!!! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014618024)

OP:

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Indi Guy (3,421 posts)

Horrific flesh-rotting drug krokodil may be in Chicago, doctor says
Source: Las Angeles Times

More possible cases of the use of krokodil, the flesh-eating drug popular in Russia and Eastern Europe as a cheaper alternative to heroin, have surfaced in the U.S., this time in a Chicago suburb, health officials said.

Dr. Abhin Singla, an internist at Provena St. Joseph’s Medical Center in Joliet, Ill., reported that at least three patients had symptoms consistent with krokodil abuse, which can include scaly skin, abscesses, lesions and gangrenous limbs, according to a hospital statement this week.

Krokodil is essentially a back-alley version of desomorphine, derived from codeine processed with ordinary ingredients including paint thinner, iodine, hydrochloric acid, red phosphorus, gasoline and lighter fluid. The drug ravages the flesh, and often amputation is the only viable medical treatment.

“It is a horrific way to get sick," said Dr. Singla. "The smell of rotten flesh permeates the room."...


Read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-krokodil-drug-flesh-eating-chicago-20131011,0,330855.story

Warpy chimes in:

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Warpy (72,043 posts)
2. Still no reports of it here in NM, where it would spread like wildfire

among people addicted to the more expensive black tar heroin coming up from Mexico. The average time from first usage to death is one year.

It's just another shining reason why the drug war is such a failure. Opiates are not particularly damaging to body systems even when taken at high doses for a long time. Bathtub drugs kill.

Wait for it...

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FrodosPet (1,242 posts)
29. Opiate overdose is a myth?

So all those O.D. stories are just a sack of bullshit? My friend was mistaken when she tried to suicide by overdose - it would not have killed her no matter how much she would have taken?

OUCH!!!! Gonna leave a mark on Warpy.

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Voice for Peace (9,391 posts)
3. I don't understand why anybody would take a flesh rotting drug?

DON'T DO THIS: search google images for krokodil

I don't understand why people would take/snort/shoot any recreational drug.

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Posteritatis (18,257 posts)
4. Desperation when saner options aren't cutting it anymore (or aren't available). (nt)

Obama is even affecting the dummies ability to get drugs... who knew!!!!

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darkangel218 (7,516 posts)
5. Yah, we learned about it in school.

Its a horiffic way to die.

Wonder if the dummie is in HS or college?

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boomer55 (110 posts)
8. sucks to be them but actions have consequences.... dont do drugs.

Troll

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Zorra (20,642 posts)
16. "paint thinner, iodine, hydrochloric acid, red phosphorus, gasoline and lighter fluid."

King Heroin can make his slaves do absolutely anything for a fix. From robbery to murder to prostitution to taking flesh eating drugs processed with paint thinner, iodine, hydrochloric acid, red phosphorus, gasoline and lighter fluid.

From what I have read, it sounds similar to meth and people still cook and use that.

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backscatter712 (21,945 posts)
22. It's basically like cooking meth, except using codeine instead of pseudoephedrine.

What boggles my mind is that Krokodil makes Faces of Meth look like a beauty pageant...

Wow. I was right. One thing the dummies do know is drugs!!

That is it for now. I'm waiting for the hard core drug users of the dump to show up.

Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: BattleHymn on October 11, 2013, 10:38:07 PM

I expect to see one of the hard core drug users on DU chime in with something that a person I suspect of being a primitive told me earlier today about this stuff:

"That kind of stuff only happens with the bad batches."  



So you just need to find a good batch, Perky, and you'll be all set. 

Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: diesel driver on October 12, 2013, 03:16:03 AM
I expect to see one of the hard core drug users on DU chime in with something that a person I suspect of being a primitive told me earlier today about this stuff:

"That kind of stuff only happens with the bad batches."  



So you just need to find a good batch, Perky, and you'll be all set. 



Is there such a thing as a good batch?

I mean, really!
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: RobJohnson on October 12, 2013, 04:01:56 AM
Nasty stuff.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Aristotelian on October 12, 2013, 06:47:04 AM
I'm sure that Tav's already got a ticket to Chicago...
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Traveshamockery on October 12, 2013, 09:04:08 AM
At least Obamascare will make sure they get a pain pill because, you know, at some point it won't be cost effective to remove that flesh-eaten extremity.

 :ownit:
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Delmar on October 12, 2013, 09:45:43 AM
Now I have this song stuck in my head.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4qAFuk651c[/youtube]
Translation:
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http://lyricstranslate.com
Schnappi the little crocodile

I am Schnappi, the little crocodile
I come from Egypt, that's situated right on the river Nile
First I layed in an egg
Then I sna-sna-snapped my way to freedom

Schni Schna Schnappi
Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp
Schni Schna Schnappi
Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp

I am Schnappi, the little crocodile
I have sharp teeth, and many of them
I snap and snatch everything I can reach
And I snap because that's what I do best

Schni Schna Schnappi
Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp
Schni Schna Schnappi
Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp

I am Schnappi, the little crocodile
I like to snap, it's my favourite game
I sneak up to my mom
And show her how good I can snap

Schni Schna Schnappi
Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp
Schni Schna Schnappi
Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp

I am Schnappi, the little crocodile
And I never get enough of snapping
I bite my dad's leg
And then I just fall asleep

Schni Schna Schnappi
Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp
Schni Schna Schnappi
Schnappi Schnappi Schnapp


Read more at http://lyricstranslate.com/en/schnappi-das-kleine-krokodil-schnappi-little-crocodile.html-0#uUo0LkyPUzBTDpHo.99
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Freeper on October 12, 2013, 10:58:32 AM
I expect to see one of the hard core drug users on DU chime in with something that a person I suspect of being a primitive told me earlier today about this stuff:

"That kind of stuff only happens with the bad batches."  



So you just need to find a good batch, Perky, and you'll be all set. 



So, if coca cola started killing people would the DUmmies say that it must have only been a bad batch? Or would they demand that Eric My People Holder shut them down and execute the CEO on national tee vee?

Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: jukin on October 12, 2013, 11:01:21 AM
Chicago? Couldn't happen to a nicer city.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 12, 2013, 11:41:06 AM
Now I have this song stuck in my head.
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4qAFuk651c[/youtube]
Translation:
My hearing is bad.....it sounds like they're singing, "Poop and slide"..... :lmao:....and the gossip I think I hear is 10 times better than what was actually said.....problem is, I know better than repeat what I thought I heard. :-)
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Bad Dog on October 12, 2013, 11:43:29 AM
Ugh!!  Checked out the pictures.  Put me in mind of what I imagine the inside of a DUmmie's head looks like.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: BattleHymn on October 12, 2013, 11:45:19 AM
Ugh!!  Checked out the pictures.  Put me in mind of what I imagine the inside of a DUmmie's head looks like.

And their heart.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Karin on October 12, 2013, 12:30:00 PM
How horrific!  I don't think I want to see any pictures.  I imagine we'll hear from Taverner at some point on the subject.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: BattleHymn on October 12, 2013, 01:43:28 PM
How horrific!  I don't think I want to see any pictures.  I imagine we'll hear from Taverner at some point on the subject.

Don't be eating anything if you do decide to search.  They are tragic.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: I_B_Perky on October 12, 2013, 04:30:10 PM
Apparently is originated somewhere in eastern europe. Somewhere around or maybe in Russia if I remember correctly. Turns your skin green before it rots it off. The article I read a few weeks ago said that life expectancy for the users is less than a year. Can't find the article now.   :mad:

As soon as it is available where taverner lives, I'm betting taverner doesn't last a year.

Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Bad Dog on October 12, 2013, 05:12:03 PM
Apparently is originated somewhere in eastern europe. Somewhere around or maybe in Russia if I remember correctly. Turns your skin green before it rots it off. The article I read a few weeks ago said that life expectancy for the users is less than a year. Can't find the article now.   :mad:

As soon as it is available where taverner lives, I'm betting taverner doesn't last a year.



It would make for some great reading for a while.  Hey DUmmies my (fill in the blank) just fell off what should I do.  Followed by sage advice from NY Skippy.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: I_B_Perky on October 12, 2013, 05:14:57 PM
It would make for some great reading for a while.  Hey DUmmies my (fill in the blank) just fell off what should I do.  Followed by sage advice from NY Skippy.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

H5!

On another note BD... I guess if the dummies all start turning green en masse, we will know why!   :cheersmate: :cheersmate:
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Celtic Rose on October 12, 2013, 06:16:12 PM
I will be praying that it stays out of my little corner of the world.  That is a dressing change I do not want to do.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 12, 2013, 06:39:06 PM
I will be praying that it stays out of my little corner of the world.  That is a dressing change I do not want to do.


My advice would be . . . if you have to do a dressing change, KILL IT WITH FIRE!!! first.

(Can someone provide me with an appropriate picture--of the killing with fire, please? :fuelfire: )
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: miskie on October 12, 2013, 07:06:49 PM
Wow --

Obama is never gonna fill his basic Obamacare recipient requirement now...
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: BattleHymn on October 12, 2013, 10:22:54 PM
I will be praying that it stays out of my little corner of the world.  That is a dressing change I do not want to do.


From what I have seen, there is lots of exposed bone that doesn't even look like a nice healthy white color. 

When it's as bad as the photos I have seen, when does amputation become the only choice? 

How do you deal with massive amounts of exposed bone?     
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Aristotelian on October 13, 2013, 03:13:24 PM
Don't be eating anything if you do decide to search.  They are tragic.

Strongly seconded. I'm not a wuss about on-screen gore, but they're more than a little bit unpleasant.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 13, 2013, 03:17:03 PM
From what I have seen, there is lots of exposed bone that doesn't even look like a nice healthy white color

When it's as bad as the photos I have seen, when does amputation become the only choice? 

How do you deal with massive amounts of exposed bone?     

Healthy or freshly exposed bone in humans is usually a slightly yellowish or tan color. White bone has usually been exposed the elements for a while and are bleached out.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Celtic Rose on October 13, 2013, 04:01:12 PM
From what I have seen, there is lots of exposed bone that doesn't even look like a nice healthy white color. 

When it's as bad as the photos I have seen, when does amputation become the only choice? 

How do you deal with massive amounts of exposed bone?     

I suspect that if people were to seek medical care, amputation would occur frequently with this drug. My understanding is that it is caustic enough to destroy whatever vessels it is injected into, and then it begins to destroy the surrounding flesh.  What they are left with is chemically damaged flesh with no blood supply,  which sounds like a limb that is practically asking to be amputated. 
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 13, 2013, 04:12:18 PM
I suspect that if people were to seek medical care, amputation would occur frequently with this drug. My understanding is that it is caustic enough to destroy whatever vessels it is injected into, and then it begins to destroy the surrounding flesh.  What they are left with is chemically damaged flesh with no blood supply,  which sounds like a limb that is practically asking to be amputated

....and to a DUmmie that means a cornucopia of government freebies....so shoot it up.
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Delmar on October 13, 2013, 04:55:59 PM
I suspect that if people were to seek medical care, amputation would occur frequently with this drug. My understanding is that it is caustic enough to destroy whatever vessels it is injected into, and then it begins to destroy the surrounding flesh.  What they are left with is chemically damaged flesh with no blood supply,  which sounds like a limb that is practically asking to be amputated. 
But what effect would this have on a Dummy brain?
Title: Re: krokodil (drug) may be in Chicago, Will Dummies try it?
Post by: Dblhaul on October 13, 2013, 05:03:31 PM
no effect on a DUmmy brain, they don't have one.