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Title: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Ptarmigan on October 11, 2013, 07:10:04 PM
House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/11/House-GOP-Caves-Will-Lift-Debt-AND-Reopen-Government

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House Republicans have sent the White House a revised proposal to lift the debt ceiling for six weeks, as well as reopen government through December 15th, which was their original spending proposal before the partial shutdown. The revised GOP plan reflects the demands Obama made in a meeting with House GOP Leaders on Thursday. It also reflects the unwillingness of the DC GOP to face a fiscal showdown with Democrats.
   

The GOP caved.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Freeper on October 11, 2013, 07:14:07 PM
We knew they would.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: NHSparky on October 11, 2013, 07:18:32 PM
None Of The Above in 2014.
Title: Re: Re: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: DLR Pyro on October 11, 2013, 07:38:34 PM
House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/11/House-GOP-Caves-Will-Lift-Debt-AND-Reopen-Government

The GOP caved.
limp dicks
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: ReaganForRushmore on October 11, 2013, 08:04:34 PM
Except Cruz
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: DefiantSix on October 11, 2013, 09:50:21 PM
None Of The Above in 2014.

Every last one of 'em needs to see an unemployment line in January 2015. Resounding defeat in primary elections should be less than a year away for most of these clowns.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: miskie on October 11, 2013, 09:52:09 PM
I figure now the senate will create a bill opening it all up for the next four years, the two bills will go to conference, and they will compromise down to the remainder of Obama's term.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Dori on October 11, 2013, 09:58:26 PM
The old dogs are afraid of the poll numbers.  There are probably enough RINO's and Democrats to get passed what Obama wants.




Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: DefiantSix on October 11, 2013, 10:10:51 PM
I figure now the senate will create a bill opening it all up for the next four years, the two bills will go to conference, and they will compromise down to the remainder of Obama's term.

If we didn't have a whole party of spineless weasels collaborating with il Douche, I might disagree with you. Unfortunately, you're far more likely to be absolutely right.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Revolution on October 11, 2013, 10:13:15 PM
Bunch of COWARDS!  :mad:

Wonder what the truckers in DC will think once this goes across their CBs?
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Ptarmigan on October 11, 2013, 11:15:11 PM
None Of The Above in 2014.

Out the door for them.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: longview on October 12, 2013, 09:44:23 AM
Pfffft.  Of course they did.

Ya know... I find myself voting for Republicans because at least the words that come out of their faces align more closely with my views on policy, etc.  But, they are a pretty lousy bunch.  The whole lot of our representatives, Democrat or Republican.  And the whole lot of them are passing laws and regulations at such a rate, I certainly can't keep up with it all.  I'm just one of the average dopes out here working a couple jobs, who gets surprised when I hear of the nuttiness coming out of Washington.

It is disheartening, and sitting here I can understand why some people stop bothering to vote at all.  (But then, my innate nature kicks in and I know I won't quit at least trying to vote for good candidates, and trying to influence for sustainable, prudent and just policies  :-)  )
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Splashdown on October 12, 2013, 10:03:20 AM
Nothing like surrendering when you're actually winning the effing argument...
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: SaintLouieWoman on October 12, 2013, 11:17:37 AM
They disgust me. We need someone a whole lot smarter who can't be outmaneuvered by a bunch of low counts like the Dems. Boehner definitely needs to go.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 12, 2013, 11:54:27 AM
They disgust me. We need someone a whole lot smarter who can't be outmaneuvered by a bunch of low counts like the Dems. Boehner definitely needs to go.

Hopefully, he will.

ETA:  They're still in the kabuki theater stage . . . http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/house-senate-saturday-session-government-shutdown-debt-ceiling-98218.html?hp=t1_3
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: cattlebaron on October 12, 2013, 12:18:02 PM
Have to wait and see. A lot going on all at once. When they start throwing their swords on the floor in a pile, stating that they're going to move on, then I'll say they don't deserve to even stay in office. I just hope they're smarter then me, because I don't understand the strategy.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: DefiantSix on October 12, 2013, 02:08:32 PM
Nothing like surrendering when you're actually winning the effing argument...

If you look at it from Boner's perspective though, The RINOs weren't winning the argument.

The conservatives were.

And from his perspective, he can tolerate that within the ranks of his party even less than il Douche can tolerate it within the ranks of his Federal Government.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: 5412 on October 16, 2013, 07:49:16 PM
HI,

Have not been here for awhile.  What is going on is just disgusting.  Saw the Rasmussen poll today and 68% wants the entire bunch thrown out.

Won't happen, they have gerrymandered the money and voting distiricts so that is impossible.

Honestly, I see the only way our country can recover is when the currency collapses and the government goes along with it.  Just hope the general in charge believes in the Constitution.

regards,
5412
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: thundley4 on October 16, 2013, 07:56:28 PM
HI,

Have not been here for awhile.  What is going on is just disgusting.  Saw the Rasmussen poll today and 68% wants the entire bunch thrown out.

Won't happen, they have gerrymandered the money and voting distiricts so that is impossible.

Honestly, I see the only way our country can recover is when the currency collapses and the government goes along with it.  Just hope the general in charge believes in the Constitution.

regards,
5412

Unfortunately, Obama has been ridding the military of people likely to support the constitution and putting his lackeys in their place.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Purple Sage on October 16, 2013, 08:53:28 PM
Don't forget the dog and geriatic slaughtering SWAT teams.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: wasp69 on October 16, 2013, 08:58:03 PM
Lest we all forget, the Senate RINOs were the main cause of this.  When they decided to jump in and hamstring the House, it was all over.

I'll giver Boehner this much, he held out a lot longer than I thought he would.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Dori on October 16, 2013, 09:06:27 PM
Lest we all forget, the Senate RINOs were the main cause of this.  When they decided to jump in and hamstring the House, it was all over.

I'll giver Boehner this much, he held out a lot longer than I thought he would.

It passed the Senate 81-18.  All the usual suspects.

Now it's going to the House to be voted on. 
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: rich_t on October 17, 2013, 05:26:17 AM
Another nail in the GOP coffin.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Freeper on October 17, 2013, 06:20:50 AM
Another nail in the GOP coffin.

Also another nail in the coffin of the United States of America as well.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: NHSparky on October 17, 2013, 07:44:36 AM
NONE OF THE ABOVE in 2014!!!
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Splashdown on October 17, 2013, 07:55:24 AM
Another nail in the GOP coffin.

Primary everybody.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: rich_t on October 17, 2013, 04:34:26 PM
Primary everybody.

Too many low information voters out there that vote merely on name recognition or 30 second sound bites to make a difference.

Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 18, 2013, 10:07:44 AM
Too many low information voters out there that vote merely on name recognition or 30 second sound bites to make a difference.



For the general election, yes.  Not necessarily in the primaries.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: Dori on October 18, 2013, 10:31:42 AM
Too many low information voters out there that vote merely on name recognition or 30 second sound bites to make a difference.

You know that has me thinking.  I was a low information voter too.  It's taken me a long time to understand how this government works and how politics operate and who all the players are.

I had all the civics and government courses in school, I knew how government was supposed to operate.  I'm talking about a "real" understanding of the complexity of politics.

I occasionally try to discuss issues with some family members and their eyes just gloss over like I'm talking in a foreign language.

 
 


Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: NHSparky on October 18, 2013, 11:36:15 AM
You know that has me thinking.  I was a low information voter too.  It's taken me a long time to understand how this government works and how politics operate and who all the players are.

I had all the civics and government courses in school, I knew how government was supposed to operate.  I'm talking about a "real" understanding of the complexity of politics.

I occasionally try to discuss issues with some family members and their eyes just gloss over like I'm talking in a foreign language.

That should be your first indication that government has become too big and too cumbersome, when people simply give up trying to comprehend it or its mechinizations.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: docstew on October 18, 2013, 06:46:32 PM
Unfortunately, Obama has been ridding the military of people likely to support the constitution and putting his lackeys in their place.

Those lackeys can give their orders... but who will follow them?

I'll gladly walk into Leavenworth before I take action against peaceful Americans.
Title: Re: House GOP Blinks: Will Lift Debt and Reopen Government
Post by: thundley4 on October 18, 2013, 06:56:33 PM
Those lackeys can give their orders... but who will follow them?

I'll gladly walk into Leavenworth before I take action against peaceful Americans.

And the majority of active duty feel the same way. (At least I hope)