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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on October 10, 2013, 10:14:06 AM
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Obama should not take this deal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023820788
Barack_America (24,804 posts)
Obama should not take this deal.
Word is Boehner will propose a temporary raise of the debt ceiling (6 whole weeks!) with no strings, but will not bring up a clean CR, leaving the government shut down.
This is a bad deal.
Most of the GOP's favored workers (defense workers) are already back at work. Now they want to protect their precious stock market, while leaving hundreds of thousands of government workers furloughed.
No debt ceiling deal without a vote on a clean CR.
Don't give in now, Mr. President.
LuvNewcastle (4,679 posts)
1. Agreed. Nothing will change unless everybody feels the pain.
No exceptions.
Yet, you like everyone in pain. :mental:
Mass (24,976 posts)
2. There is no deal on the table. The speaker is supposedly presenting this deal to his caucus.
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There is most likely no chance they will accept it.
Barack_America (24,804 posts)
3. It should be killed in its larval stages.
Not by them, it lets their asses off the hook...but by us.
BluegrassStateBlues (138 posts)
4. Democrats have already called this a non-starter.
“We can’t fight on two fronts,†Speaker John Boehner told a meeting of House Republicans Thursday morning.
But Obama and Democrats have been crystal clear: they will not negotiate on any package until both government is open and the debt ceiling has been hiked. So this newest gambit might serve as nothing more but a negotiating position.
It’s also not clear that the House can pass this kind of a debt limit hike, given some conservatives’ desire to match the debt ceiling increase with spending cuts. If House Democrats do not support the package, Boehner, Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) can only afford 15 GOP defections to pass the bill.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/government-shutdown-debt-ceiling-update-98134.html#ixzz2hKYDN000
BeyondGeography (22,462 posts)
5. Boehner has moved from anger to bargaining
Depression and acceptance are just around the corner.
berni_mccoy (17,549 posts)
19. He Has No Choice. The Deal the House Repubs are offering is What the Senate Already Passed.
And if he vetoes a bill he supported in the Senate, he'll look dumber than the House Repubs.
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I agree...that Obama and the congress should not agree to raise the debt ceiling.
Start cutting the spending....period.
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It's quite funny to watch the DUmmies discuss the finances of this country, when most of them don't have two nickels to rub together.
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I agree...that Obama and the congress should not agree to raise the debt ceiling.
Start cutting the spending....period.
Why do we even have a debt ceiling? They never follow it and simply raise it every few months anyway.
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I'm going to go shower, I agree with the DUchebag. For diametrically opposed reasons but that's close enough to make me feel dirty.
At first I thought Boehner made a bad decision but if Obama says "NO!" I see a few more approval points going bye-bye. Now it is a matter of being his same old narcissistic self or reading the tea leaves. IMO, Kaptain Kickass says "go pound sand."
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It's quite funny to watch the DUmmies discuss the finances of this country, when most of them don't have two nickels to rub together.
Yes they do! They're our nickels, or "dollars", to be more precise! These are people who believe there is no national debt because we can just "print" more money!