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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: RobJohnson on October 03, 2013, 04:28:47 AM
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steve2470 (16,820 posts)
At 243 AM EST I get this message at healthcare.gov....
Hopefully it's simply a traffic problem and not a website problem. Amazing !
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023773415
riderinthestorm (13,597 posts)
12. I set my alarm for 1:30 am specifically to try to get on. No luck
Been trying for 30 minutes at the Illinois website (getcoveredIllinois.org).
I get the same message as you for about 5 minutes and then another message comes up telling me the site is completely down.
I agree that I think this is a good sign if its still super busy so late into the night. I think I'm heading back to bed though
Cali_Democrat (17,315 posts)
3. I work in IT
This kind of thing is so incredibly common. There are so many working parts such as database servers and application servers. Performance issues happen all the time, especially when there's high traffic.
In fact, it's unusual when things go swimmingly well 100% of the time.
Good luck DUmmies.
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Hey, DUmb**** lurkers . . .
It's designed to fail.
Really, it is.
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riderinthestorm (13,597 posts)
12. I set my alarm for 1:30 am specifically to try to get on. No luck
Been trying for 30 minutes at the Illinois website (getcoveredIllinois.org).
I get the same message as you for about 5 minutes and then another message comes up telling me the site is completely down.
I agree that I think this is a good sign if its still super busy so late into the night. I think I'm heading back to bed though
I don't.
Who's to say it's "super busy" at 1:30 am? I say it's "super f'd up", was designed that way, was built that way, and will remain that way, for the simple reason government LOVES to make things "super complicated"
Why else would you need a Cray 2 supercomputer just to read e-mails? Why else would you need 16,000 new IRS agents to "oversee" healthcare? Why in the hell is the IRS even involved? Why would you need 2,500+ pages of legislation to "fix" healthcare (when it wasn't broken in the first place!)
Healthcare in this country is f'd, thanks to Barry and the dimrats.
Good luck with that application, and after you get your "healthcare", better luck finding a doctor, DUmbass!
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I set my alarm for 1:30 am specifically to try to get on.
How exciting! Another chance for freebies--
I'm too lazy to get my ass out of bed in the morning and look for work, but by golly I'll set my alarm for 1:30am to sign up for my free health care!
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And I remind the DUmmies that it's not free. No matter how hard they wish that to be so.
Other people in IT are commenting about that these problems are not caused by traffic. It's simply, spectacularly, ****ed up. Sheer incompetence.
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Hmmmm If Apple or some other left leaning tech company had these problems they would be going apecrap over the unprofessionalism.
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Cali_Democrat (17,315 posts)
3. I work in IT
This kind of thing is so incredibly common. There are so many working parts such as database servers and application servers. Performance issues happen all the time, especially when there's high traffic.
In fact, it's unusual when things go swimmingly well 100% of the time.
They had 3 years to get the system up and running, can you imagine how they're going to run healthcare?
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It's simply, spectacularly, ****ed up. Sheer incompetence.
I have learned to expect nothing less from this administration.
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Cali_Democrat (17,315 posts)
3. I work in IT
This kind of thing is so incredibly common. There are so many working parts such as database servers and application servers. Performance issues happen all the time, especially when there's high traffic.
In fact, it's unusual when things go swimmingly well 100% of the time.
Other people in IT are commenting about that these problems are not caused by traffic. It's simply, spectacularly, ****ed up. Sheer incompetence.
It's simply piss poor systems concept and design. Computer programming has something to do with it to the extent of available skill levels, which are generally low. And like diesel driver stated, hardware really has much less to do with it other than connectivity between hardware.
The whole healthcare.gov system has been cobbled together just like the 2200 page law that created it, and the 28,000 pages of new regulations. All you need to know is the ".gov" internet domain name means SCREWED UP.
(I'm a retired systems engineer from the Department of the Army, and I've worked at every level from writing programs to designing systems and supervising staff.)
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A certain computer whizz from a certain Chevrolet dealership designed the system and if you don't like it, he will hide your mouse.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #3)
Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:54 AM
steve2470 (16,820 posts)
4. yes I'm hoping this is actually a GOOD sign that the PPACA is so popular that...
the website is still overwhelmed with traffic. I feel bad for the people who are having problems accessing the site, but I am confident HHS will remedy what they can in the coming days.
DUmmies seem to think that to submit an online form, you need a live person on the other end to check it over and file it.
But...a couple of weeks ago, Apple accepted about seven bajillion orders for the new iPhone online.
And at almost the same time, they handled around forty bajillion downloads of a whole new operating system.
I don't recall hearing even one complaint about not being able to get through.
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If you think signing up is ****ed up, wait until you try to use it.
Again, you know you are in waaaaaaaaaaay over your head if you can't even implement your own bad policy...and websites.
This Obama fellow with ZERO executive experience sure seams to have the magic Fecal Touch doesn't he?
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If you think signing up is ****ed up, wait until you try to use it.
Again, you know you are in waaaaaaaaaaay over your head if you can't even implement your own bad policy...and websites.
This Obama fellow with ZERO executive experience sure seams to have the magic Fecal Touch doesn't he?
Hey, what do you expect from a community organizer who's primary pool of workers to hire from is a group that hates work and smokes pot all the time.
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A certain computer whizz from a certain Chevrolet dealership designed the system and if you don't like it, he will hide your mouse.
:lmao:
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How exciting! Another chance for freebies--
I'm too lazy to get my ass out of bed in the morning and look for work, but by golly I'll set my alarm for 1:30am to sign up for my free health care!
That DUmmie is really going to be annoyed when it does get on the site, signs up, and finds out how small the coverage is and how big the bill's going to be. I can hardly wait for the anguished cries of pain.
:popcorn:
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I just see these people paying the fine and then getting cancer and signing up. I mean that is what A financially smart person would do with these options. There is nothing saying you can't do that right?
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Cali_Democrat (17,315 posts)
3. I work in IT
This kind of thing is so incredibly common. There are so many working parts such as database servers and application servers. Performance issues happen all the time, especially when there's high traffic.
In fact, it's unusual when things go swimmingly well 100% of the time.
The lowering of the bar continues...
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I just see these people paying the fine and then getting cancer and signing up. I mean that is what A financially smart person would do with these options. There is nothing saying you can't do that right?
For the moment. But once you've signed up, even if you opt out of taking the insurance, they will have all your information. The first year fine is small (depending on income) but it will go up higher each year.
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For the moment. But once you've signed up, even if you opt out of taking the insurance, they will have all your information. The first year fine is small (depending on income) but it will go up higher each year.
...and if you get testicular cancer they will truly have you by the balls.
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The lowering of the bar continues...
amen to that
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A certain computer whizz from a certain Chevrolet dealership designed the system and if you don't like it, he will hide your mouse.
That brought a tear to my eyes, from laughing. :cheersmate:
Cali_Democrat (17,315 posts)
3. I work in IT
This kind of thing is so incredibly common. There are so many working parts such as database servers and application servers. Performance issues happen all the time, especially when there's high traffic.
In fact, it's unusual when things go swimmingly well 100% of the time.
Yeah all the time. Like when Apple sold tens of millions of iPhones and updated almost a 100 million OSes. Remember how that was just all FUed?
Its the government stupid.
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That DUmmie is really going to be annoyed when it does get on the site, signs up, and finds out how small the coverage is and how big the bill's going to be. I can hardly wait for the anguished cries of pain.
I don't understand the DUmmies' glee.
Currently, they don't pay their bill, and it goes to collection.
With this kenyacare insurance, they won't pay their deductible, and it goes to collection.
The difference is, with kenyacare they'll also be getting premium bills.
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I don't understand the DUmmies' glee.
Currently, they don't pay their bill, and it goes to collection.
With this kenyacare insurance, they won't pay their deductible, and it goes to collection.
The difference is, with kenyacare they'll also be getting premium bills.
They actually think the whole mess is free after the premiums. I really think the morons believe that if they pay the premiums, they can go to the doctor as often as they want for whatever they want,
and it's all free. No maximum, no waiting, no nothing.
I cannot effing wait until the dr visits start. CANNOT WAIT.
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We have an insurance agency (that I retired from :-)) but my wife is still running it. She was told to "get certified" for Obama care by 9/30/13 BUT she can't get certified, their web site is all screwed up and she told me the hell with health care. :lmao:
Boondoggle does not even come close to describing this crap.
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I just see these people paying the fine and then getting cancer and signing up. I mean that is what A financially smart person would do with these options. There is nothing saying you can't do that right?
I think there is a period of open enrollment at the beginning of each year for the exchanges. They won't be taking new enrollees year round.
It's kind of like our work insurance. A new hire is given the choice to sign up, but if they decline, but later change their mind they have to wait until the new period begins.
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I think there is a period of open enrollment at the beginning of each year for the exchanges. They won't be taking new enrollees year round.
It's kind of like our work insurance. A new hire is given the choice to sign up, but if they decline, but later change their mind they have to wait until the new period begins.
Just means they'll be going to the ER to be seen until the next enrollment period comes around, and considering the deductible vs. the cost of premiums for the low-end plans, it's probably the most sound course of action available, economically for sure and possibly even in terms of quality of care.
So yeah, Gina, that's what a very large percentage of the under-40 working crowd, who'll bear the harshest burden in the ACA scheme, are likely to do. This will of course completely screw up the risk pool since everyone who was uninsurable or otherwise a net taker before will beat down the doors to (They think) rob the wallets of the younger and more fit. I expect the whole thing to be drowning in a sea of red ink by the end of 2014.