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Title: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: franksolich on September 30, 2013, 09:14:11 PM
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Oh my.

The brain-damaged primitive's best friend, again:

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cbayer (124,593 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 06:26 PM

Cooking for Kosher guests.

I will be fixing a kosher meal for some guests coming tomorrow.

I thought I would make some quesadillas with roasted poblanos and caramelized onions and a creamed portobello soup.
 
If I use vegetable broth instead of chicken broth for the soup, I can use cream and cheese.
 
What kinds of ideas do you have for an easy and delicious kosher meal?

<<<gives the cbayer primitive plaudits for spelling out "vegetable."

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Old Navy (60 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:01 PM

1. Kosher is easy enough to cook

Just make sure you do not cook any meat on it.

It has to be completely dairy or pareve. Quesdilla sometimes will have meat on it.
 
If you must insist on putting meat, I can suggest you use Morningstar Farms products (they have a ground thing that tastes quite good and best for burritoes) that is kosher and acceptable.
 
My wife makes it once in a while. In fact, it's been too long, except we just had Mexican for lunch (grilled tilipa & chile rellenos) and I don't want to ask her until at least she forgot she went there (food didn't agree with her)

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cbayer (124,593 posts)    Mon Sep 30, 2013, 08:05 PM

2. Morningstar products are a great idea.

The person I will be cooking for is an amazing chef and does wonders with meat substitutes and pastas.
 
He has a kosher butcher, but I don't have any access at all to kosher meats.

I could do fish, though.

<<<when lived in Omaha, bought kosher almost exclusively.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 30, 2013, 09:30:18 PM
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Cooking for Kosher guests.

Dear Jewish guests,

Stay away from the oven.


Sgt SB
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Chris_ on September 30, 2013, 09:32:22 PM
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I will be fixing a kosher meal for some guests coming tomorrow.
Bacon cheeseburgers topped with grilled shrimp.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: GOBUCKS on September 30, 2013, 09:48:58 PM
I'm sure cbayer the thread slayer will prepare a great meal in the belly of that tiny boat, on a Coleman campstove.

Sounds like a great place to spend an evening, elbow-to-elbow, three feet from the crapper.

Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Mike220 on September 30, 2013, 10:45:07 PM
Bacon cheeseburgers topped with grilled shrimp.

 :drool:
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: freedumb2003b on September 30, 2013, 11:01:26 PM
Just remember Jewish Rule #1


Never bring calamari to a bris.

Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Fourwinds on October 01, 2013, 01:48:30 AM
Dear Jewish guests,

Stay away from the oven.


Sgt SB

You don't have to tell us twice. Trust me
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Big Dog on October 01, 2013, 06:26:01 AM
cbayer- I know you'll read this.

There is a lot more to keeping Kosher than not mixing milk and meat. If you're asking the DUmp for advice, you're doomed to fail.

You should probably serve your Jewish guests some unflavored lentil loaf and tap water. Serve your Gentile guests Devils on Horseback and pork chops with cheese sauce. Your Jewish friends will thank you for your cultural sensitivity.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: vesta111 on October 01, 2013, 07:30:39 AM
cbayer- I know you'll read this.

There is a lot more to keeping Kosher than not mixing milk and meat. If you're asking the DUmp for advice, you're doomed to fail.

You should probably serve your Jewish guests some unflavored lentil loaf and tap water. Serve your Gentile guests Devils on Horseback and pork chops with cheese sauce. Your Jewish friends will thank you for your cultural sensitivity.

Not just the food but the area you prepare it has to be Kosher.  No knife ever used to cut meat can ever be used on anything but meat.   No pot or pan that ever had meat in it can be used to cook dairy product.    Keeping a Kosher kitchen is darn complicated.    Two sets of pots and pans and silverware,  and at times even the plates and serving dishes all separate.   

Much easier to get a Jewish Deli to make ahead meals all following the tradition.   After 22 years of watching the Rabbi's come in from Boston or NYC to over see a Kosher run of our product, it was an eye opener.   

 One such Rabbi walked down the lines of female workers sniffing out woman on their period. Any they suspected were sent to the nurses office and if this were so reassigned to a job that was non Kosher. 

Unfortunately I would have enjoyed eating Kosher but the price for these items are twice that of the non.     But, by golly if all foods were overseen as Kosher are there would be very little food poising.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Karin on October 01, 2013, 07:45:36 AM
There are just too many rules for a kosher kitchen; if you haven't been brought up that way, mistakes are going to be made.  I wouldn't even attempt it.  What I'd do instead is ask them over for drinks and cards after the dinner hour. 

Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Aristotelian on October 01, 2013, 01:21:42 PM
Dear Jewish guests,

Stay away from the oven.


Sgt SB

At cbayer's place? The furthest one can get from the oven whilst still being on the boat is probably about 4/5 feet.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: BannedFromDU on October 01, 2013, 01:30:24 PM
cbayer- I know you'll read this.

There is a lot more to keeping Kosher than not mixing milk and meat. If you're asking the DUmp for advice, you're doomed to fail.

You should probably serve your Jewish guests some unflavored lentil loaf and tap water. Serve your Gentile guests Devils on Horseback and pork chops with cheese sauce. Your Jewish friends will thank you for your cultural sensitivity.


     +1 Kosher ain't bullshittin'. Consult a synagogue on how to serve for people who keep Kosher. I have no doubt that a DUmmy, with their well-known respect for religion, would provide advice in direct conflict with actual accepted practice. 
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Dori on October 01, 2013, 01:53:20 PM
Matzah balls.  I've never tried them myself.

Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: GOBUCKS on October 01, 2013, 02:10:06 PM
There are just too many rules for a kosher kitchen; if you haven't been brought up that way, mistakes are going to be made.  I wouldn't even attempt it.  What I'd do instead is ask them over for drinks and cards after the dinner hour.

Anyone who would impose such conditions on a host should be asked to eat before arriving, or be uninvited altogether.

This isn't like the vegan freaks, where their weirdness is totally voluntary, but enough.

I don't understand why anyone would include themselves in a social setting, knowing that their presence makes the others uncomfortable.

Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: vesta111 on October 01, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Anyone who would impose such conditions on a host should be asked to eat before arriving, or be uninvited altogether.

This isn't like the vegan freaks, where their weirdness is totally voluntary, but enough.

I don't understand why anyone would include themselves in a social setting, knowing that their presence makes the others uncomfortable.



We all make mistakes, I have brought an expensive bottle of wine to a dinner to find out all the guests were of a faith that did not touch the stuff.      How the heck are we to know if an host is Baptist or Unitarian. 

These people sound concerned for the comfort of their guests, but are going a bit over board with it.
I always locked up my dogs when a Muslim coworker came to visit, just manners really.   I also removed my shoes when entering an Asians home, no big deal, just manners.

One thing I learned the hard way, never go to a Russians home with cheap Vodka and never get the flavored ones, Sacrurigeious act
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: JohnnyReb on October 01, 2013, 03:26:40 PM
Are paper plates and plastic sporks kosher?
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: vesta111 on October 01, 2013, 03:31:24 PM
damn cat on keyboard again.    

Sacred no-no.   No true Russian drinks anything but Vodka straight , perhaps some bread to go with it.

So many taboos,   hard to keep track of them.  

Just bring a pot of baked beans no meat, or when guests come put out a buffet so they can choose themselves what they wish to eat.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: vesta111 on October 01, 2013, 03:34:53 PM
Are paper plates and plastic sporks kosher?

If they are individually wrapped in clear plastic and have been prayed over I would think so.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Chris_ on October 01, 2013, 03:34:59 PM
Your cat made 8,590 posts here?
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: franksolich on October 01, 2013, 03:35:58 PM
Your cat made 8,590 posts here?

Good one.

Awesome.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: GOBUCKS on October 01, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
Thanks to Chris_ for not quoting crazy vesta.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: vesta111 on October 01, 2013, 05:11:37 PM
Thanks to Chris_ for not quoting crazy vesta.

 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Yup these Maine Cats are most interesting.    I trained them to do the laundry and vacuum the carpets.   They will not wash the dishes however but they love to play on the keyboard.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Big Dog on October 01, 2013, 06:19:10 PM
Anyone who would impose such conditions on a host should be asked to eat before arriving, or be uninvited altogether.

This isn't like the vegan freaks, where their weirdness is totally voluntary, but enough.

I don't understand why anyone would include themselves in a social setting, knowing that their presence makes the others uncomfortable.

I don't think her Jewish dinner guests are imposing.

I think cbayer is trying to show off how multicultural she is. It's her little bit of noblesse oblige.

A Gentile who was not trying to show off could make a fine meal for all of her guests.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: franksolich on October 01, 2013, 07:26:18 PM
I don't think her Jewish dinner guests are imposing.

I think cbayer is trying to show off how multicultural she is. It's her little bit of noblesse oblige.

A Gentile who was not trying to show off could make a fine meal for all of her guests.

That's it.  On the nose.  Exactly what it is.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: GOBUCKS on October 01, 2013, 07:41:08 PM
Noblesse oblige?
She lives aboard a vessel more cramped than a sampan. Poor stupid Beth's little camper in the California desert would be more comfortable.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: franksolich on October 01, 2013, 07:44:15 PM
Noblesse oblige?
She lives aboard a vessel more cramped than a sampan. Poor stupid Beth's little camper in the California desert would be more comfortable.

The cbayer household, or rather, boathold, is having kosher hamburgers for supper tonight.

She didn't mention how well they're done, though.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: Big Dog on October 01, 2013, 08:03:10 PM
Noblesse oblige?
She lives aboard a vessel more cramped than a sampan. Poor stupid Beth's little camper in the California desert would be more comfortable.

You are correct. You and I see her living in a dinghy, eating out of date pogey bait and washing her clothes in the toilet. That is reality.

She sees herself living on a luxury yacht, eating Chateaubriands for breakfast and dispensing pearls to the proles. That is DUmmy-lusion.
Title: Re: the cbayer "some of my best friends are Jewish" primitive cooking supper
Post by: BlueStateSaint on October 02, 2013, 03:21:49 PM
Your cat made 8,590 posts here?

Meooooowwwwww!

H5, Chris!