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Title: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Chris_ on September 27, 2013, 11:16:06 PM
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What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?

It’s been called the most important 26 seconds of film in history: The 486 frames of 8-millimeter Bell + Howell home movie footage shot in the midday sun of Dallas on November 22, 1963, by a dressmaker named Abraham Zapruder. Twenty-six seconds that included a historic, horrific, all-too-clear vision of a presidential assassination.

Most people vaguely know about the Zapruder film, but it will soon become omnipresent as the 50th anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy approaches. What is not well known, however, is that a single frame of it was kept largely secret from public view for 12 years after the assassination.

Frame 313. The frame that gave Abraham Zapruder nightmares, the frame he insisted be withheld from the public—a single frame of film that can be said to have changed American history and culture.

“We like to feel that the world is safe,” Errol Morris tells me. “Safe at least in the sense that we can know about it. The Kennedy assassination is very much an essay on the unsafety of the world. If a man that powerful, that young, that rich, that successful, can just be wiped off the face of the earth in an instant, what does it say about the rest of us?”
Smithsonian Magazine (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/What-Does-the-Zapruder-Film-Really-Tell-Us-224928822.html)


Interesting... three out of four murdered Presidents were Republicans.  And then there was Kennedy.
Title: Re: Re: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on September 27, 2013, 11:29:34 PM
Smithsonian Magazine (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/What-Does-the-Zapruder-Film-Really-Tell-Us-224928822.html)


Interesting... three out of four murdered Presidents were Republicans.  And then there was Kennedy.

BFEE.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: DefiantSix on September 28, 2013, 12:20:15 AM
Smithsonian Magazine (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/What-Does-the-Zapruder-Film-Really-Tell-Us-224928822.html)


Interesting... three out of four murdered Presidents were Republicans.  And then there was Kennedy.

4 out of 4 presidential assassins have been extreme leftists of one stripe or another. Kinda tells ya what kind of profiling we need to be doing at political events where a president might be present.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Wayne on September 28, 2013, 04:29:19 AM
  Why is this one archived? Why has the time frame for working the rifled changed 3 times over the years? Why didnt Oswald take the shot when the motorcade was approaching him head on . And lastly and most important , why dont ducks wear horseshoes?
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Zathras on September 29, 2013, 12:09:02 AM
  Why is this one archived? Why has the time frame for working the rifled changed 3 times over the years? Why didnt Oswald take the shot when the motorcade was approaching him head on . And lastly and most important , why dont ducks wear horseshoes?

Don't know, don't know, don't know and if they did they would be called duckshoes instead of horseshoes.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: ExGeeEye on September 29, 2013, 04:51:38 AM
Why has the time frame for working the rifled changed 3 times over the years?

Has it?  William Manchester, in Death of a President, states it as 2.3 seconds, which to this operator of a bolt-action rifle actually seems a bit long.  I haven't seen any other figure, even in Oliver Stone's well-researched, entirely unbiased documentary.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: ExGeeEye on September 29, 2013, 05:03:22 AM
Why didnt Oswald take the shot when the motorcade was approaching him head on .

Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza and visited the sixth floor?  Given the distances involved and the possible axes of fire relative to the shooter's position, the shooter made the easier choice of the two alternatives.

Just for the record: from my readings, my experience with firearms, and from demonstrations I have seen televised, I believe someone did exactly what the Warren Commission said LHO did.  My only lingering doubt is whether it was LHO or someone else.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Mr Mannn on September 29, 2013, 06:23:13 AM
My only lingering doubt is whether it was LHO or someone else.
It was Nicotine Man.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Mr Mannn on September 29, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
No.  :thatsright:  I meant to say, Cancer man!
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: thundley4 on September 29, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
No.  :thatsright:  I meant to say, Cancer man!

CSM = Cigarette Smoking Man.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Eupher on September 30, 2013, 09:04:45 AM
As I understand it, Zapruder didn't want the frame that showed the actual chunk of Kennedy's head as it skittered across the trunk of the car publicized. Too graphic.

Jackie actually went to retrieve that chunk of skull, which explains why her dress was bloodstained.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Wineslob on September 30, 2013, 09:49:35 AM
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Post by: JohnnyReb on September 30, 2013, 10:06:44 AM
What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?....that Kennedy was shot from behind from the grassy knoll by the cancer stricken cigarette smoking man in the window....and the missing frame is of LBJ saying "Hot Dog. I'm president. Swear me in."
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: FlaGator on September 30, 2013, 05:04:40 PM
That video is much more convenient that film
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: freedumb2003b on September 30, 2013, 05:28:56 PM
  Why is this one archived? Why has the time frame for working the rifled changed 3 times over the years? Why didnt Oswald take the shot when the motorcade was approaching him head on . And lastly and most important , why dont ducks wear horseshoes?

And what about the...
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Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Chris_ on September 30, 2013, 06:03:14 PM
magic bullet
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBz3PqA2Fmc[/youtube]
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Wayne on October 01, 2013, 01:48:24 PM
  The main squawk I have is why is it archived for 75 years ? I've seen  3 different versions  of the time frame reported on TV. 3.2 , 5 something seconds and 7 seconds .

4 seconds :::http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071127164745AAHdtBL

6 seconds :::http://www.mtgriffith.com/web_documents/howlong.htm
  Etc etc . I'll never live long enough to know but I ask again , IF there is nothing to hide , IE: conspiracy , why is it archived?
  I did study this a little in school and there are to many conflicts to believe  any report.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: DLR Pyro on October 01, 2013, 03:39:19 PM
slightly off topic but I just finished reading The Third Bullet (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/03/29/The-Third-Bullet-Review-The-Novel-Hunter-Was-Meant-to-Write) by Stephen Hunter which gives another spin on a 2nd gunman in this crime.
Title: Re: What Does the Zapruder Film Really Tell Us?
Post by: Wayne on October 01, 2013, 05:14:42 PM
slightly off topic but I just finished reading The Third Bullet (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/03/29/The-Third-Bullet-Review-The-Novel-Hunter-Was-Meant-to-Write) by Stephen Hunter which gives another spin on a 2nd gunman in this crime.


  Reading that now . Entertaining !!!