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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on September 25, 2013, 05:44:37 AM
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Star Member spanone (72,909 posts)
the teaparty is using extortion and refusing to obey the law of the land
when does this act of anarchy meet with serious conseqeunces?
the affordable care act is the law of the land. how can you filibuster a LAW?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023726251
What short memories the DUmmies have.
It wasn't that long ago when they were cheering that 0bama was ignoring the DOMA, and ignoring immigration laws. Now all of a sudden they want laws to be followed.
I love this argument that we must submit and accept 0bamacare just because it was signed into law. Being lectured about following laws by a bunch of dopeheads is pretty funny.
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Yep. Its frightening to socialists when opposition parties are free to speak. Using elected members of congress to change unpopular laws and actually perform LEGAL actions like filibustering, or defunding Obama care is a horrifying scenario for socialist pigs.
Scary images like this are why socialist countries around the world imprison and murder those who disagree.
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Star Member spanone (72,909 posts)
the teaparty Democrat party is using extortion and refusing to obey the law of the land
when does this act of anarchy meet with serious conseqeunces?
the affordable care Civil Rights act is the law of the land. how can you filibuster a LAW?
:whistling:
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On and for the slow blinking Lurkers...
They aren't filibustering the law...they are filibustering the FUNDING of the law and that's been going on for decades.
It was done under Reagan under Bush and you morons certainly didn't have any problem Whit attempts to defund the military during a time of war.
:censored: hypocrites
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Such shocking behaviour on the part of Senators...fulfilling their constitutionally mandated duty.
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Remember when dissent was patriotic?
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CzteDucRHo[/youtube]
lol
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They're tossing around this "law of the land" around the internet. Someone put up a graphic, which I can't find right now, of the Fugitive Slave Law, with the caption "It's the Law of the Land."
These are mere man's laws, DUmmies. They aren't sacred. You know that many of your own despise this law.
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They're tossing around this "law of the land" around the internet. Someone put up a graphic, which I can't find right now, of the Fugitive Slave Law, with the caption "It's the Law of the Land."
These are mere man's laws, DUmmies. They aren't sacred. You know that many of your own despise this law.
Also, the good Senator wasn't breaking any law he was trying to change a law which he considers to be a bad law...isn't that what we're all supposed to do, and most especially those whom we elect to represent us in legislatures?
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Also, the good Senator wasn't breaking any law he was trying to change a law which he considers to be a bad law...isn't that what we're all supposed to do, and most especially those whom we elect to represent us in legislatures?
Don't mess up their little minds with facts and logic, much less their own words.
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They're tossing around this "law of the land" around the internet. Someone put up a graphic, which I can't find right now, of the Fugitive Slave Law, with the caption "It's the Law of the Land."
These are mere man's laws, DUmmies. They aren't sacred. You know that many of your own despise this law.
This one is because The Jesus from Chicago, King Barky the Incompetent, is associated with it.
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Yet all but a few of them celebrated when Odumbo by fiat declared half the law would not be implemented as written.
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Yet all but a few of them celebrated when Odumbo by fiat declared half the law would not be implemented as written.
The law means what The Holy WON of Shitcago says it means. Any other interpretation, well...
:racist:
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I say go with the "Law of the Land". After my boss got off the phone with his health care attorney (he owns a health care business and he cannot understand the new regs), he said bend over and kiss your A(*. Cause his really good plan for us is going away. no choice, no option.
I think all of the people that support the ACA need to see how affordable it is really going to be. Maybe, just maybe, they will be hit upside of the head with the 2x4 that is going to come in the mail every month and get a fuc*#n clue.
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I say go with the "Law of the Land". After my boss got off the phone with his health care attorney (he owns a health care business and he cannot understand the new regs), he said bend over and kiss your A(*. Cause his really good plan for us is going away. no choice, no option.
I think all of the people that support the ACA need to see how affordable it is really going to be. Maybe, just maybe, they will be hit upside of the head with the 2x4 that is going to come in the mail every month and get a fuc*#n clue.
The IMPORTANT thing is that it is FAIR!!!!!!111111!!!!!!elebinty
The only way to make anything fair is to bring it down to the lowest common denominator, IOW make everyone equally miserable. Except the people that are making it fair. Those people need to be ecstatic.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023726251
What short memories the DUmmies have.
It wasn't that long ago when they were cheering that 0bama was ignoring the DOMA, and ignoring immigration laws. Now all of a sudden they want laws to be followed.
I love this argument that we must submit and accept 0bamacare just because it was signed into law. Being lectured about following laws by a bunch of dopeheads is pretty funny.
Pretty amazing that when their messiah ignores "the law of the land", these DOlts don't have a thing to say. Way more anarchists reside at the DUmp than in all of the Tea Party combined!
It's only anarchy when you believe laws are supposed to be enforced equally to all Americans!
Smartest people in the room, doncha know!
This is what happens when you have to smell daylight because your head is buried so far up your ass you haven't seen daylight since your first year of high school and a family outing involves going down to the local medical marijuana mall with mummie and daddy.
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Star Member spanone (72,909 posts)
the teaparty is using extortion and refusing to obey the law of the land
when does this act of anarchy meet with serious conseqeunces?
the affordable care act is the law of the land. how can you filibuster a LAW?
Go piss up a flagpole, DUmmy. :bird: :bird: :bird:
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Star Member spanone (72,909 posts)
the teaparty is using extortion and refusing to obey the law of the land
when does this act of anarchy meet with serious conseqeunces?
the affordable care act is the law of the land. how can you filibuster a LAW?
The same can be said of the obumbles administration, dummie. Be careful what you ask for... you just may get it.
Personally I say go ahead and implement it. When the 20 somethings with jobs see their insurance go thru the roof, the next election will be disaster of epic proportions for the dem party.
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They're tossing around this "law of the land" around the internet. Someone put up a graphic, which I can't find right now, of the Fugitive Slave Law, with the caption "It's the Law of the Land."
These are mere man's laws, DUmmies. They aren't sacred. You know that many of your own despise this law.
There was also Prohibition - not only was it the 'law of the land' it was an amendment to The Constitution - One can't get much more 'law of the land' than that.
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Well extortion is such an ugly word,but the left including Nobama have been expertly applying it for the past 8 years.
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The same can be said of the obumbles administration, dummie. Be careful what you ask for... you just may get it.
Personally I say go ahead and implement it. When the 20 somethings with jobs see their insurance go thru the roof, the next election will be disaster of epic proportions for the dem party.
I believe it already will be, perky.
DUmmie have no idea the magnitude of the shitstorm that's about to hit them, either if this "thing" is enacted, or the 2014 elections.
Make for some good TV. I'll enjoy watching Chrissy Mathews sputtering and slobbering all over himself at the election results. :popcorn:
There was also Prohibition - not only was it the 'law of the land' it was an amendment to The Constitution - One can't get much more 'law of the land' than that.
Prohibition, slavery, Jim Crow, Imminent Domain, all were/are "laws of the land", although if Prohibition were still in the Constitution, DUmmies would ignore it, just like they like to do with the 2A and anything else in the Constitution THEY disagree with.
Damned funny, if you think about it.
The Constitution is the "blueprint" for our government, and progressives do their damned best to circumvent and ignore it.
If progressives tried to build a house following blueprints the same way they follow the Constitution, they'd be sitting under a pile of shingles and 2X4's, have the basement under the roof, the top floor in the basement, and all the toilets flushing uphill.
After 100 years of Progressive interpretation of the Constitution, no wonder our government is FUBAR.
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and all the toilets flushing uphill.
Perfect description of how our federal government works....unfortunately, somewhere up the pipeline, the solids disappear and no one knows where they went.
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Perfect description of how our federal government works....unfortunately, somewhere up the pipeline, the solids disappear and no one knows where they went.
You're assuming that the federal government actually works.
Haven't seen any evidence of that in the last 20 years, especially in the last 5.
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You're assuming that the federal government actually works.
Haven't seen any evidence of that in the last 20 years, especially in the last 5.
At some point in time we've all head it, "Look like you're busy"....same for government, shuffle the paper work until you wear it out.
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the affordable care act is the law of the land. how can you filibuster a LAW?
They aren't filibustering the law you moron.
They are filibustering the funding of the law and that is something that's been done for generations in D.C..
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In a way, the Obomber administration has been filibustering many of our laws, border security and illegal aliens for example.
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They aren't filibustering the law you moron.
They are filibustering the funding of the law and that is something that's been done for generations in D.C..
The congress has shut down the government 17 times. 15 of those times by Democrats.
But IMO, this shut down over Obamacare is playing right into the Administration's hands. They aren't stupid about how unpopular this law is, the party that lives by the polls. But I fear that Republicans have once again played into their hands. Democrats are worried about the 2014 election and there is no skin off their backs if the government shuts down, they are probably thrilled by it. Look how they used the sequester unnecessarily to hurt the most obvious and use it to blame Republicans.
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The congress has shut down the government 17 times. 15 of those times by Democrats.
But IMO, this shut down over Obamacare is playing right into the Administration's hands. They aren't stupid about how unpopular this law is, the party that lives by the polls. But I fear that Republicans have once again played into their hands. Democrats are worried about the 2014 election and there is no skin off their backs if the government shuts down, they are probably thrilled by it. Look how they used the sequester unnecessarily to hurt the most obvious and use it to blame Republicans.
It only counts when they disagree with the person or party is doing it.
Just like Clinton lying to a Grand Jury. Just ask "Scooter" Libby.
Still pisses me off "W" threw him to the wolves, even after the truth was out there.
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The congress has shut down the government 17 times. 15 of those times by Democrats.
But IMO, this shut down over Obamacare is playing right into the Administration's hands. They aren't stupid about how unpopular this law is, the party that lives by the polls. But I fear that Republicans have once again played into their hands. Democrats are worried about the 2014 election and there is no skin off their backs if the government shuts down, they are probably thrilled by it. Look how they used the sequester unnecessarily to hurt the most obvious and use it to blame Republicans.
I would agree if: 1. Anyone even remembers the sequester since the net effect was "meh". 2. If the obamacare rollout today had been anything other than a massive failure.
My thought is that we will soon hear of a "brilliantly negotiated" one year delay in the individual mandate to make the necessary fixes.
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I would agree if: 1. Anyone even remembers the sequester since the net effect was "meh". 2. If the obamacare rollout today had been anything other than a massive failure.
My thought is that we will soon hear of a "brilliantly negotiated" one year delay in the individual mandate to make the necessary fixes.
A perfect scenario would be for the House to send the FIRST bill (that strips funding for Zerocare) BACK to the Senate, the adjourn until Dingy Harry decides to pass it.
Also, make it CLEAR to the Senate that UNTIL they pass the bill, NO VOTES ON THE DEBT LIMIT!!!
IF it passes the Senate and Barry vetoes it, oh, well. No government funding (outside of what is being funded now). Let Zero own it!
HELLS BELLS! The Republicans are going to be blamed for this anyway, may as well go ahead and do it! For once, the lameass media would be reporting a TRUE story!
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I would agree if: 1. Anyone even remembers the sequester since the net effect was "meh". 2. If the obamacare rollout today had been anything other than a massive failure.
My thought is that we will soon hear of a "brilliantly negotiated" one year delay in the individual mandate to make the necessary fixes.
The failure is yet to come
Many Obamites are just thrilled to death with the ACA, and their subsidy for monthly costs. But once they learn that the deductable is high enough that they will get billed for everything else, and that copays are going to cut deeply into their pot and cheeto funds, they will be unhappy to say the least.
They are currently jacking off to this story - Signing up for Obamacare: ‘It will save me over $6,000. For that, I would have waited all day.’ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/01/signing-up-for-obamacare-it-will-save-me-over-6000-for-that-i-would-have-waited-all-day/) on this thread - http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023762729
..and both the story and the primitives gloss over the deductible... - I haven't.
http://www.healthpocket.com/individual-health-insurance/silver-health-plans#.UktQ6IZDuSY
This chart compares Silver plans from three states, including California, where this dude is from.
The table below illustrates how out-of-pocket costs can differ among three insurance companies that offer a Silver Plan.
California
Kaiser Foundation Health Plan - DHMO 2000/45 CA
Deductible $2,000
Doctor Visit Fee $45
Coinsurance Fee 20% of cost
Annual Limit on Out-of-Pocket Expenses $6,350
Anyone who thinks this is a good single-user plan has rocks in their head. I suspect the 'freelance' person interviewed for the article chose this option because these so-called 'Silver' plans are the only ones eligible for 'Cost Sharing' reductions. -And I would say 'freelance' in California parlance probably means 'unemployed hippie'. Since the IRS will be handling the affairs of the Californian who opted for this plan, it would behoove him to be certain he reports his income properly - else he will be in for a nasty surprise when the Obama Tax-Man cometh.
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Notice the title of the story - Signing up for Obamacare: ‘It will save me over $6,000. For that, I would have waited all day.' - this guy really thinks that his healthcare is going to be almost free. He is currently paying $7200 a year, so if he is going to save $6,000, he is expecting to pay about $100 a month. :lmao: :rotf:
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I suspect the 'freelance' person interviewed for the article chose this option because these so-called 'Silver' plans are the only ones eligible for 'Cost Sharing' reductions.
I think there are narrow income limits on this plan. You have to have some income, above the Medical ceiling, but it can't exceed a certain percentage of the poverty rate for a single person.