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Title: On DU and guns
Post by: dandi on September 19, 2013, 06:12:37 PM
I've said this before, but I just wanted to reiterate for the DUmbass lurkers who think they're fooling people with their propaganda:

Make no mistake, DU's pants-shitting hysteria over gun control has little or nothing to do with high-minded ideas like "public health", not for the majority of far-left scum. These hypersensationalized mass shootings of late, to them, are merely crises that they can't "let go to waste."

If they were really all about "the children", they wouldn't be so celebratory over the deaths of 56,000,000+ scraped out of the womb in the 40 years since Roe. If it was about saving lives in general, they would get at least as excited about the 90,000 Americans who die annually from preventable medical errors, or yes, those cumulative thousands who die from traffic accidents, swimming pools, contact sports, household poisons, misuse of OTC medications and all manner of avoidable misadventures. There are no calls to harangue Congress about any of those things. They are handwaved away, because after all, those things have "other uses", as if that makes their victims less dead somehow.

If they were really concerned about death and injury of the average citizen from gun crime and violence they wouldn't give such short shrift to root causes of such in society, things like broken families, violence in culture, drugs, and a general breakdown in the moral tone of this nation. Even when some hardy soul brings up those points they are just as quickly ignored in favor of going after an object, a possession - the gun.

No, when it comes to firearms, only a restriction on the object itself is worth talking about, unlike all other causes of death where circumspection and root cause analysis is the order of the day. Why? The answer is simple.

Despite the creeping, incremental advances of Socialism and Big Government over the past six or seven decades, it hasn't nearly grown fast or far reaching enough for today's moonbat. They want big changes, major changes, and they want them fast before their own pathetic loser lives are over. The problem is they know there are still enough conservatives around to have a moderating effect on their plans to fundamentally and radically change America in a short time. Further complicating things are a resurgence of groups like the Tea Party and Oath Keepers who demand we go back to a more basic understanding and enforcement of the Constitution and the principles on which the U.S. was founded. DUmmies want their Socialist pony right now, and they know they can't have it without some sort of power grab, some sort of "benevolent dictatorship" on behalf of whatever branch of government they happen to control. You see it reflected in their batshit crazy calls for Republican congressmen to be arrested on charges of "treason" and "sedition" for blocking the Obamessiah's agenda, because after all, anyone who would attempt to thwart The Annointed One must be a criminal, a racist, and an enemy of the state, right?

The sticking point is, they know that in an armed America such a power grab, mass abuse of arrest powers, and that fabled Benevolent Dictatorship will never be stood for by the Right. We have a way of considering those Second Amendment solutions should such a usurpation of power be attempted. Therefore, the citizenry must be disarmed. Whether such a scenario is possible or whether it is simply a pipe dream on the part of DU moonbats, it is what they hope for and what motivates them to restrict weapons to the government only. They know that full-on Socialism can only be enforced at gunpoint, as history has demonstrated time and again. That, and only that, is the driving force behind their quest to disarm you and I.
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on September 19, 2013, 06:15:11 PM
As if on cue:

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sheshe2 (7,885 posts)

America: Where It's Okay to Regulate Women, But Not Guns
 
 Will yesterday's tragic and terrible mass shooting in Washington DC finally jolt elected officials to pull their heads out of their holsters and start considering some real gun control like human beings with feelings that extend beyond a desire to secure the AK-fellating firearm hoarder vote? To answer my own rhetorical question — hahahahahaha no. Call me cynical, but as others have pointed out, if a classroom full of dead kids in Newtown can't convince Washington to act, then it's unlikely that a cafeteria strewn with dead adults will. Besides, how could we possibly expect the government to control guns when they're so busy with more pressing issues, like trying to defund Obamacare, naming Post Offices, and — MOST IMPORTANTLY — regulating uteruses?

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A normal person with a brain that works would conclude, based on the prevalence of mass shootings by people who should not have access to guns, that maybe some measure should be taken to prevent that from happening. Background checks. Waiting periods. Registries. Assault weapons bans. Something! But the backlash of the gun lobby has been so virulent that in April, less than 6 months after twenty kids were ****ing shot to death in Connecticut, the Democratic-controlled Senate failed to pass a law that would require background checks. A handful of Democrats voted against it, even though it seemed like a slam-dunk no brainer from Planet Obvious (Besides, if you're not stable enough to mentally withstand the agony of waiting a few days to get your mitts on a gun, then maybe you are not mentally stable enough to own a gun). And just last week, two Colorado elected officials were successfully recalled because of a gun lobby vendetta against them; both dared vote in favor of background checks and limits on magazine size. Apparently the Second Amendment especially protects the rights of gun owners who need more than 15 rounds to hit the thing they were shooting at before reloading. A poll this summer found that 71% of Americans support basic national gun control. Congress was still too cravenly chickenshit to do anything proactive.

The right's response to the DC shootings has been predictably awful, though not as awful as that Wayne LaPierre presser last December when the NRA head suggested that the only way to stop "a bad guy with a gun" was "a good guy with a gun" (curiously, no word yet on why there were apparently no "good guys with guns" at a Naval yard). This morning on Fox & Friends, chirping moron Elisabeth Hasselbeck started off her tenure as the morning show's Official Concerned Mom by parroting the right wing talking point that gun violence shouldn't be politicized, and that what the government should really be doing is taking a long, hard, look at how video games are making people violent. As a politically liberal individual and a woman who knows how to handle and shoot a gun, I'd say that my response to mass shootings isn't so much a political response as it is an aversion to senseless, preventable human suffering. But tomayto, tomahto.

Ironically (she typed, bitterly) the same cheap suits who are so concerned with their constituents' liberty as it relates to shooty toys are willing to regulate the hell out of the female body. When you take a step back and take a look at the big picture, which includes both women and the more-deserving-of-freedom gun, things look downright... embarrassing. State legislatures have enacted 40 different abortion restrictions thus far in 2013, many under the guise that they "protect women" from dangerous abortions. But clinic-targeting laws are a solution in search of a problem; only around 400 women have died from legally performed abortions since 1973, which averages out to 10 per year. Dogs kill a few dozen people per year. Hell, abortion kills slightly more people annually than falling vending machines, and you don't see politicians waxing centrist about making Sour Cream N Onion Tater Skins "safe, legal, and rare." Meanwhile, the number of people killed annually by guns in the US? About 32,000. By 2015, some analysts predict gun fatalities will exceed traffic fatalities in the US, based on current trends.

Read more here

http://jezebel.com/america-where-its-okay-to-regulate-women-but-not-gun-1333865775

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023698526
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: Big Dog on September 19, 2013, 06:42:19 PM
DU World, where a 10 year old girl has the requisite judgment to have an abortion, but a 50 year old man can't be trusted with a firearm.
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: BlueStateSaint on September 19, 2013, 06:44:18 PM
I've said this before, but I just wanted to reiterate for the DUmbass lurkers who think they're fooling people with their propaganda:

Make no mistake, DU's pants-shitting hysteria over gun control has little or nothing to do with high-minded ideas like "public health", not for the majority of far-left scum. These hypersensationalized mass shootings of late, to them, are merely crises that they can't "let go to waste."

If they were really all about "the children", they wouldn't be so celebratory over the deaths of 56,000,000+ scraped out of the womb in the 40 years since Roe. If it was about saving lives in general, they would get at least as excited about the 90,000 Americans who die annually from preventable medical errors, or yes, those cumulative thousands who die from traffic accidents, swimming pools, contact sports, household poisons, misuse of OTC medications and all manner of avoidable misadventures. There are no calls to harangue Congress about any of those things. They are handwaved away, because after all, those things have "other uses", as if that makes their victims less dead somehow.

If they were really concerned about death and injury of the average citizen from gun crime and violence they wouldn't give such short shrift to root causes of such in society, things like broken families, violence in culture, drugs, and a general breakdown in the moral tone of this nation. Even when some hardy soul brings up those points they are just as quickly ignored in favor of going after an object, a possession - the gun.

No, when it comes to firearms, only a restriction on the object itself is worth talking about, unlike all other causes of death where circumspection and root cause analysis is the order of the day. Why? The answer is simple.

Despite the creeping, incremental advances of Socialism and Big Government over the past six or seven decades, it hasn't nearly grown fast or far reaching enough for today's moonbat. They want big changes, major changes, and they want them fast before their own pathetic loser lives are over. The problem is they know there are still enough conservatives around to have a moderating effect on their plans to fundamentally and radically change America in a short time. Further complicating things are a resurgence of groups like the Tea Party and Oath Keepers who demand we go back to a more basic understanding and enforcement of the Constitution and the principles on which the U.S. was founded. DUmmies want their Socialist pony right now, and they know they can't have it without some sort of power grab, some sort of "benevolent dictatorship" on behalf of whatever branch of government they happen to control. You see it reflected in their batshit crazy calls for Republican congressmen to be arrested on charges of "treason" and "sedition" for blocking the Obamessiah's agenda, because after all, anyone who would attempt to thwart The Annointed One must be a criminal, a racist, and an enemy of the state, right?

The sticking point is, they know that in an armed America such a power grab, mass abuse of arrest powers, and that fabled Benevolent Dictatorship will never be stood for by the Right. We have a way of considering those Second Amendment solutions should such a usurpation of power be attempted. Therefore, the citizenry must be disarmed. Whether such a scenario is possible or whether it is simply a pipe dream on the part of DU moonbats, it is what they hope for and what motivates them to restrict weapons to the government only. They know that full-on Socialism can only be enforced at gunpoint, as history has demonstrated time and again. That, and only that, is the driving force behind their quest to disarm you and I.

Kicked, recommended, and H5ed.
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: AllosaursRus on September 19, 2013, 06:47:07 PM
Good men think alike!

Excellent Dandi!!! ^5!

Alinsky, Marx, Lenin, Mao, all the way!
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: jukin on September 19, 2013, 06:51:36 PM
It will take a bit but all will be ^5ed.
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: AllosaursRus on September 19, 2013, 06:52:43 PM
It will take a bit but all will be ^5ed.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, ya shouldn't have! lol!
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on September 19, 2013, 08:05:14 PM
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The right's response to the DC shootings has been predictably awful, though not as awful as that Wayne LaPierre presser last December when the NRA head suggested that the only way to stop "a bad guy with a gun" was "a good guy with a gun" (curiously, no word yet on why there were apparently no "good guys with guns" at a Naval yard).
You can thank DoD Directive 5210.56 for that.

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A handful of Democrats voted against it, even though it seemed like a slam-dunk no brainer from Planet Obvious (Besides, if you're not stable enough to mentally withstand the agony of waiting a few days to get your mitts on a gun, then maybe you are not mentally stable enough to own a gun).
Why should I wait? If I need to use one right away I would just grab one of the others I already own.
 

Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 19, 2013, 08:38:57 PM
This is my rifle

This is my gun

This is for killing

This is for.....uh.....what do DUmmie menz do with their "gun"?.....never mind, I really don't want to know.
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: BattleHymn on September 19, 2013, 08:41:13 PM


This for.....uh.....what do DUmmie menz do with their "gun"?.....never mind, I really don't want to know.

One of the pillars of being a primitive male is their panache for sticking things into inappropriate places, especially when it involves other primitive males.  

I would strongly advise against letting your imagination be your guide.
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: Big Dog on September 20, 2013, 04:36:16 AM
One of the pillars of being a primitive male is their panache for sticking things into inappropriate places, especially when it involves other primitive males.  

I would strongly advise against letting your imagination be your guide.

Pencil sharpeners, light sockets, beehives...
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: diesel driver on September 20, 2013, 11:27:47 AM
Pencil sharpeners, light sockets, beehives...

Wood lathes, milling machines, belt pulleys, bench grinders, meat processors, various farm animals...
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: franksolich on September 20, 2013, 11:36:53 AM
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Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: Gina on September 20, 2013, 11:49:36 AM
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If they were really all about "the children", they wouldn't be so celebratory over the deaths of 56,000,000+ scraped out of the womb in the 40 years since Roe.

That is so sad.
Title: Re: On DU and guns
Post by: Airwolf on September 20, 2013, 12:51:26 PM
Interesting how anyone one the left can not even wait for the blood to be mopped up before they go on TV and screech for gun control while the bodies are still warm. Yet no one is seen on the right cheering on about the dead or calling for more fun availability or more deadly ammo to use after each of these shootings. So who is it that is the Ghouls exactly? Not our side, we see all of us here calling for prayers and saying how tragic it is that someone snapped and killed X amount of people.  The left is filled with vile people that want to control everything and they should be stopped.