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Title: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 20, 2008, 10:11:43 PM

I brought a laptop home tonight to check it out.

Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Chris_ on June 20, 2008, 10:19:14 PM

I brought a laptop home tonight to check it out.


It can be a real PITA if you need to run software not designed for Vista.
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 20, 2008, 10:22:50 PM

I brought a laptop home tonight to check it out.


It can be a real PITA if you need to run software not designed for Vista.

yeah, bill gates really is satan, ain't he?

hang on, I am going to bring my vista laptop online in a second.

Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Chris_ on June 21, 2008, 09:46:33 AM
Here is your answer: http://blip.tv/file/340692
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: DixieBelle on June 21, 2008, 01:36:03 PM
ROFL! That's hilarious!
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Chris_ on June 21, 2008, 01:41:08 PM

I brought a laptop home tonight to check it out.


It can be a real PITA if you need to run software not designed for Vista.

yeah, bill gates really is satan, ain't he?

hang on, I am going to bring my vista laptop online in a second.



Wait until you try to delete a file and Vista say you don't have authority.  You start yelling at it "I am the only ****ing user!!!  I am the Administrator! WTF do you mean I don't have authority?  If not then who the **** does have authority?  ****ing Bill Gates?????" Then your laptop will go flying across the room.

If you don't cuss now, you will after 1 day working against with Vista. 

I hate it with a visceral passion.
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 21, 2008, 07:56:39 PM

jeez.  vista IS a pain in the ass.  I don't like it at all.  but I had other problems playing around with it.

I added the MAC address of the Vista box to my wireless router today, and the router totally crapped out.  none of the computers would talk.  I set the router back to factory defaults, and I still couldn't connect via the wireless.  it wouldn't even assign an IP.

finally, I fixed connected my Win2K laptop directly to the cable modem, and did an IPCONFIG/RENEW.  I finally got an IP that way, and then my wireless would connect.  and after that the vista box would connect wirelessly.

odd.  now I have to rebuild all of my wireless settings.



Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 21, 2008, 07:57:24 PM

I brought a laptop home tonight to check it out.


It can be a real PITA if you need to run software not designed for Vista.

yeah, bill gates really is satan, ain't he?

hang on, I am going to bring my vista laptop online in a second.



Wait until you try to delete a file and Vista say you don't have authority.  You start yelling at it "I am the only ****ing user!!!  I am the Administrator! WTF do you mean I don't have authority?  If not then who the **** does have authority?  ****ing Bill Gates?????" Then your laptop will go flying across the room.

If you don't cuss now, you will after 1 day working against with Vista. 

I hate it with a visceral passion.

I am downgrading this puppy to XP tomorrow. :-)
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Chris_ on June 21, 2008, 09:09:30 PM
I hate it with a visceral passion.

:rofl:  We hates it, we does. 

Slow, clumsy, awkward.  Paranoid.  It's an updated equivalent of Windows ME.

I remember trying to use the original release of XP.  Nothing worked then, either.  I avoided that until SP2 was released -- now I'm relatively happy.  I may be making the Linux switch as soon as I have some time to dedicate to it. 
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Chris_ on June 21, 2008, 09:43:10 PM

I brought a laptop home tonight to check it out.


It can be a real PITA if you need to run software not designed for Vista.

yeah, bill gates really is satan, ain't he?

hang on, I am going to bring my vista laptop online in a second.



Wait until you try to delete a file and Vista say you don't have authority.  You start yelling at it "I am the only ******* user!!!  I am the Administrator! WTF do you mean I don't have authority?  If not then who the **** does have authority?  ******* Bill Gates?????" Then your laptop will go flying across the room.

If you don't cuss now, you will after 1 day working against with Vista. 

I hate it with a visceral passion.

I am UPgrading this puppy to XP tomorrow. :-)
fixt.   :-)
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: PatriotGame on June 23, 2008, 11:28:00 AM
I hate it with a visceral passion.

:rofl:  We hates it, we does. 

Slow, clumsy, awkward.  Paranoid.  It's an updated equivalent of Windows ME.

I remember trying to use the original release of XP.  Nothing worked then, either.  I avoided that until SP2 was released -- now I'm relatively happy.  I may be making the Linux switch as soon as I have some time to dedicate to it. 

I am running Vista Ultimate on a high-end Alienware laptop and it runs pretty good. I had to disable the account verification thing where it asks that "are you sure" shit with every mouse click. You can search the Internet for the procedure to access the REAL administrator account and login as the admin. One thing that DID impress me is Vista's wireless connectivity. I travel a lot and in every airport, coffee shop, and hotel connecting to their wireless systems is a matter of opening the wireless connection window, selecting the detected wireless network, verifying it as a public network and I am connected.
As for Linux, I have been a long time DOS/Windows user but recently switched one computer to Ubuntu running the Beryl desktop interface and it is impressing. You need a fairly powerful video card though and will have to use open source drivers for it.
Check out the comparison between Vista and Ubuntu running Beryl:

[youtube=425,350]xC5uEe5OzNQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: TheSarge on June 23, 2008, 03:51:10 PM
Here is your answer: http://blip.tv/file/340692


Yup that just about sums it up.


Seriously WE...you should step up to the better system:


(http://www.onshore.com/images/gr_apple_osx_panther.jpg)




Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 23, 2008, 03:57:45 PM
Here is your answer: http://blip.tv/file/340692


Yup that just about sums it up.


Seriously WE...you should step up to the better system:


(http://www.onshore.com/images/gr_apple_osx_panther.jpg)



I was told that men had to turn their penises in if they ever bought a mac. :-)
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: TheSarge on June 23, 2008, 04:52:46 PM

I was told that men had to turn their penises in if they ever bought a mac. :-)

All I will say in response to that is that I have six kids.  :-)
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 23, 2008, 08:07:12 PM

I was told that men had to turn their penises in if they ever bought a mac. :-)

All I will say in response to that is that I have six kids.  :-)

huh?  something's wrong . . . . still got all your fingers? :???:


 :-)
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: TheSarge on June 24, 2008, 05:58:22 AM


huh?  something's wrong . . . . still got all your fingers? :???:


 :-)

Nope.  everything is still intact  :naughty:
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: EastFacingNorth on June 25, 2008, 09:50:38 AM
I hate it with a visceral passion.

:rofl:  We hates it, we does. 

Slow, clumsy, awkward.  Paranoid.  It's an updated equivalent of Windows ME.

I remember trying to use the original release of XP.  Nothing worked then, either.  I avoided that until SP2 was released -- now I'm relatively happy.  I may be making the Linux switch as soon as I have some time to dedicate to it. 

I am running Vista Ultimate on a high-end Alienware laptop and it runs pretty good. I had to disable the account verification thing where it asks that "are you sure" shit with every mouse click. You can search the Internet for the procedure to access the REAL administrator account and login as the admin. One thing that DID impress me is Vista's wireless connectivity. I travel a lot and in every airport, coffee shop, and hotel connecting to their wireless systems is a matter of opening the wireless connection window, selecting the detected wireless network, verifying it as a public network and I am connected.
As for Linux, I have been a long time DOS/Windows user but recently switched one computer to Ubuntu running the Beryl desktop interface and it is impressing. You need a fairly powerful video card though and will have to use open source drivers for it.
Check out the comparison between Vista and Ubuntu running Beryl:

[youtube=425,350]xC5uEe5OzNQ[/youtube]

The whole thing about administrative access being a pain in the ass wouldn't be a problem if users (and yes, even admins) weren't retarded. 

Ever since I can remember, way back in my formative years using Windows NT 3.51, standard procedure was to log in with user privileges for run-of-the-mill computing, and only log in as an administrator when you need to for some specific purpose.  This is a very easy, very basic security measure, one that Microsoft has strongly suggested for the lifespan of the NT product line.

Vista's Administrative Access Control, or whatever the official name for it is, forces the user to do this, but also makes it easier by eliminating the logoff/logon procedure or the necessity of assigning administrative access to specific apps.  Yes, it's a pain-in-the-ass if you're used to being always logged in as an administrator.  But then, you've always been doing it wrong.

This idea of security isn't Microsoft-specific either.  UNIX/Linux admins are (at least theoretically) not supposed to be logged in as root all the time, rather they get one-time root access for those tasks where it's required.  Plenty of lazy admins avoid this, sure, but the principle is sound.
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Thor on June 29, 2008, 10:22:18 AM
I've been using XP since before it was released. I like XP very much. It has it's flaws, but it's been WAY better than previous versions of Winblows. My experience with Vista is somewhat limited, but what little I experienced was painful.
Title: Re: who knows anything about Windows Vista?
Post by: Chris_ on June 29, 2008, 10:35:04 AM
I've been using XP since before it was released. I like XP very much. It has it's flaws, but it's been WAY better than previous versions of Winblows. My experience with Vista is somewhat limited, but what little I experienced was painful.

Unless you have an up-to-date machine (dual-core processors, at least 2gb RAM), Vista is downright awful to use on a daily basis.  Beyond that, it's basically XP with a new GUI.