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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ralph Wiggum on September 17, 2013, 02:56:15 PM
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Dpm12 (356 posts)
Lies about Ronald Reagan (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023679203#post27)
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1. Lowered taxes. (Not true Reagan RAISED taxes by 11% 7 out of his 8 years as president. He is the only president in history to lower taxes on the wealthy while at the same time, raised taxes on the poor.)
2. Was against immigration (wrong again. Reagan granted amnesty to illegal immigrants)
3. Loved America (No he didn't. He hated America and as a result, began a destructive path of destroying America.)
4. Loved the constitution and freedom (Again, WRONG. Broke the law by illegally selling weapons to Iraq to fund Contras in Nicaragua and was against Separation of Church and State. Oh and by the way, Reagan was for gun control and was reported as having said himself "why do ordinary citizens need the same kinds of weapons as the military and the police?").
5. Reaganomics was a success (No, it was not. Reagan spent more than any president between Washington and Carter. Worst spending president in history. Reagan inherited a debt of $8 billion and ended his presidency with a $3 trillion debt.)
The only people who like Reagan are the rich who benefited from his policies.
:mental: :bird:
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Libs have a strong grip on an empty bag.
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Libs have a strong grip on an empty bag.
That is until they find someone's front porch to sit it on and then set on fire.
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Well, decent and civilized people are well aware that the great Ronald Reagan ranks with Washington and Lincoln in the three best presidents in American history. Their administrations were clearly guided by the hand of God.
No only Americans, but the entire world, especially the wretches trapped behind the Iron Curtain, gained benefits beyond measure from the inspired leadership of President Reagan.
He was almost solely responsible for the collapse and dissolution of the Soviet Union, winning freedom and hugely improving the lives of hundreds of millions of East Europeans.
Reagan is the reason Albanians can buy Moby CDs.
At home he ignited an economic boom that reverberates around the world even today, despite efforts by the democrat party to extinguish it.
America was gifted with a lot of great visionaries in the twentieth century, from Thomas Edison and Henry Ford to Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.
Not one contributed more to the unparalleled American standard of living than Ronald Reagan.
DUmmies know that, at least the ones with double-digit IQs know that, and they're enraged by that knowledge.
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Gang, gang, gang . . .
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4656046340047343&w=203&h=166&c=7&rs=1&pid=1.7)
Thatisall.
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Clearly, from the results that Obama is all about making America great and Reagan was all about destroying America.
Obama is the Anti-Reagan. I let the reader determine what that means in a biblical sense.
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I've always wondered what of Reagan's actions pissed the left off the most during his presidency.
Was it the firing of the air traffic controllers?
Living through his assassination attempt?
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I've always wondered what of Reagan's actions pissed the left off the most during his presidency.
Was it the firing of the air traffic controllers?
Living through his assassination attempt?
Probably the latter.
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I've always wondered what of Reagan's actions pissed the left off the most during his presidency.
Was it the firing of the air traffic controllers?
Living through his assassination attempt?
Being a former Dem who saw the light ?
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The left never lets go of hate. 30 years later they still work a campaign of lies.
The left hated Reagan because he was loved by the people. He won in two landslides. He was witty, charming, and able to manhandle a democratic congress to get most of what he wanted.
Finally Reagan was not an elitist. When the rats would cooperate, the President went over their heads and straight to the people. Congress was forced to give in to their constituents. The elite hate that.
I think the unrelenting avalanche of hate for Sarah Palin was because the rats saw in her the makings of another Regan.
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The left never lets go of hate. 30 years later they still work a campaign of lies.
I take it as a sign of his greatness...he still controls the DUmmies' minds.
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I've always wondered what of Reagan's actions pissed the left off the most during his presidency.
Was it the firing of the air traffic controllers?
Living through his assassination attempt?
I would add beating the great socialist utopia of the USSR, the unparalleled economic recovery after the dismal Carter years, and building up our military strength to make us the hyper power.
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I've always wondered what of Reagan's actions pissed the left off the most during his presidency.
Was it the firing of the air traffic controllers?
Living through his assassination attempt?
Nuance was not part of his vocabulary. Most things were seen in terms of black and white and none of this shades of gray crap that is in vogue in DC these days. The Soviets were evil and the West good, socialism is bad and capitalism is good, pacifism/weakness encourages aggression and a willingness to use force and a strong defense maintains peace.
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It just another example of how great Pres. Reagan was. Still living rent free in their minds after all these years.
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It just another example of how great Pres. Reagan was. Still living rent free in their minds after all these years.
Shame he can't find a better place......but it is right up the DUmmie's alley.....rent free.
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Shame he can't find a better place......but it is right up the DUmmie's alley.....rent free.
That's 2 four letter words right in a row. Just like hard work.
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Lets not forget the classy photo some gay community reps took in front of the Reagan portrait while flipping the bird. Nevermind that the Reagan administration allocated the largest funding to AIDS research at the time.
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Ok Lurkers...Professor TRG is here to educate you worthless idiots on what the deal really was.
The typical tactic is to say Reagan raised taxes 11 or 12 times (the exact number depends on whom you ask.) But it’s unhelpful — in fact, it’s a bit misleading — to talk about how many times Reagan raised taxes. That’s because (as noted earlier) tax increases are not created equal. Some are much worse than others. And many of Reagan’s so-called “tax increases†were actually examples of ending deductions.
Overall, Reagan dramatically cut the most odious of taxes.
So, for those who care about the truth, here are some details. One of the tax increases Reagan signed (the Highway Revenue Act of 1982) was a temporary increase in the federal gas tax from 4 to 9 cents. (This could be thought of as a sort of “user fee,†inasmuch as the revenue generally went to roads and infrastructure.) Another was a cigarette tax (Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985.) These are real tax increases, but should not be confused with the income tax.
(Reagan also deserves special criticism from free marketers on the right for raising the capital gains tax rate — as well as the corporate rate — in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.)
Make no mistake, these were real tax increases — in some cases, “regressive†taxation — but they pale in comparison to the scale of the income tax cuts that defined the Reagan era. Again, it’s important to put things in context. When inaugurated, Reagan inherited a nation with 16 tax brackets — ranging from marginal rates of 14 percent to 70 percent. By 1989, that was down to two brackets — with marginal rates of 15 percent and 28 percent. (Those rates — and brackets — were short lived. By the time Clinton left office, the top marginal rate was back up to 39.6 percent. But you can’t blame Reagan for tax increases that came after his tenure. That’d be like President Obama blaming George W. Bush for tax cuts passed in 2011…)
Again, my argument is that some taxes are more important than others. Do massive cuts to income taxes — perhaps the most confiscatory and arbitrary form of taxation (which disencentivize the very act of working) — carry the same weight as a temporary consumption tax increase which raised just over 3 billion in revenue a year? I would argue that the two clearly aren’t the same thing — and yet that distinction is seldom made.
So how has this canard advanced to a state where it would demand correction so many years later? Both sides have contributed to advancing this misleading narrative. It’s in nobody’s interest to clarify the distinction — that not all taxes hikes and cuts are equal. Conservatives who oppose all tax hikes (or revenue raisers such as removing deductions) gain little by exposing Reagan’s nuanced approach. Liberals benefit most from the opaqueness — because they can label Reagan a serial tax increaser — while ignoring the broader impact of his work on the federal tax racket.
Facts matter. Reagan’s legacy has been co-opted and mangled by both sides. Yes, he raised taxes. Yes he cut taxes. The real story is how he raised taxes and how he cut them. And the overarching theme is that Reagan dramatically lowered tax rates and broadened the base. He was a reformer willing to make tough decisions. And at the end of the day, his legacy is that of a free market tax cutter. “If you aggregate together all the tax hikes … Reagan was a net tax cutter,†says Americans for Tax Reform’s Ryan Ellis. “I believe that makes him unique in the 20th century Cold War era. (Kennedy’s were passed by Johnson, who later raised taxes to pay for Vietnam).â€
Why is it important to set the record straight on this? Because liberals continue to attempt to hoodwink conservatives into supporting deficit reduction plans along the lines of tit for tat. “We’ll cut spending if you raise taxes.†Looking to history, though, conservatives should be wary of this feint.
Reagan was offered such a deal (a 3-1 ratio of spending cuts to tax increases) in 1982, and it’s the reason he reluctantly agreed to the largest tax increase of his presidency, the “Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982.“ The Democratic Congress then promptly proceeded to ignore the planned spending cuts. George H.W. Bush encountered the same trick in 1990. It cost him the presidency. The same idea was tossed out last summer — and smartly rejected by the GOP.
President Reagan deserves better than to have his legacy misrepresented. It is healthy for us to properly assess his policies. He came into office amid very difficult times, vowing to restore the American dream. Considering the full body of his work, I’d say that was a mission well accomplished.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/06/ronald-reagan-raised-taxes-11-times-the-real-story/#ixzz2j7sIFUmK
Write it down. There will be a test later you ungrateful fu*ksticks.
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Ronald Reagan was truly a great President and speaker. I miss him. :(
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1. Lowered taxes. (Not true Reagan RAISED taxes by 11% 7 out of his 8 years as president. He is the only president in history to lower taxes on the wealthy while at the same time, raised taxes on the poor.)
Guess that kinda kills your entire argument against Chimpy McCokespoon.
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The left never lets go of hate. 30 years later they still work a campaign of lies.
The left hated Reagan because he was loved by the people. He won in two landslides. He was witty, charming, and able to manhandle a democratic congress to get most of what he wanted.
Finally Reagan was not an elitist. When the rats would cooperate, the President went over their heads and straight to the people. Congress was forced to give in to their constituents. The elite hate that.
I think the unrelenting avalanche of hate for Sarah Palin was because the rats saw in her the makings of another Regan.
They left is so bitter. :mental: :loser:
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The libs are masterful at setting up tax for spending cuts compromises, and never implementing the cuts.
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Reagan Sucked so bad that even the democrats voted for him</sarcasm>...
Nominee Ronald Reagan Walter Mondale
Party Republican Democratic
Home state California Minnesota
Running mate George H. W. Bush Geraldine Ferraro
Electoral vote 525 13
States carried 49 1 + DC
Popular vote 54,455,472 37,577,352
Percentage 58.8% 40.6%
It should also be noted that Mondull barely won Minnesota.
Suck it DUmmies!
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Reagan Sucked so bad that even the democrats voted for him</sarcasm>...
Nominee Ronald Reagan Walter Mondale
Party Republican Democratic
Home state California Minnesota
Running mate George H. W. Bush Geraldine Ferraro
Electoral vote 525 13
States carried 49 1 + DC
Popular vote 54,455,472 37,577,352
Percentage 58.8% 40.6%
It should also be noted that Mondull barely won Minnesota.
Suck it DUmmies!
....and the RINOs and MSM say a conservative can't win.
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Lies about Ronald Reagan continued
6. He ate dogs. Not true. Obama is the one who eats dogs.
With Lolo, I learned how to eat small green chili peppers raw with dinner (plenty of rice), and, away from the dinner table, I was introduced to dog meat (tough), snake meat (tougher), and roasted grasshopper (crunchy).
Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race--you can say that again--and Inheritance by Barack Hussein Obama