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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: BannedFromDU on September 13, 2013, 11:24:50 AM
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GreenStormCloud (11,491 posts)
Chicago abolishes gun registry in place since 1968 [View all]
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/11/us-usa-guns-chicago-idUSBRE98A15220130911
(Reuters) - Chicago on Wednesday reluctantly abolished a 45-year-old requirement that gun owners register their weapons with the city, marking a victory for advocates of gun rights such as the National Rifle Association.
The city council voted to end the gun registry in place since 1968 to comply with court rulings against Chicago and Illinois gun control laws, and to bring the city into line with a state concealed carry law.
BIG SNIP
Illinois approved a concealed carry law in July, giving control of gun regulations to the state and essentially nullifying Chicago's power to require that gun owners register their weapons and have a city firearms permit.
The measures approved by a voice vote on Wednesday complied with the new state law. In addition to eliminating the gun registry, the measures eliminated the requirement for gun owners to have a Chicago firearm permit.
This is a major win for RKBA advocates. Chicago's requirement for a firearm permit were so restrictive as to amount to a ban, despite the SCOTUS rulings. Now ordinary citizens will be able to legally have to means to defend themselves.
Lets watch what happens to Chicago's crime and murder rates in the coming years.
Because that registry was the only thing preventing Chicago from becoming the murder capital of the United States...oh, wait. It already basically is. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3659095)
One voice of relative sanity kicks things off...
Lee-Lee (602 posts)
4. Do you think the registry ever stopped a crime?
Chicago crime statistics sure dont seem t indicate it.
It was famous, however, for causing people to face police raids because they forgot to renew the firearms owners registration card every 5 years because they had a pistol they rarely used. So the "crimes" the registry solved were the one it created when the elderly WWII vet forgot to renew his paperwork for the Luger he took from a Nazi officer he captured 50 years ago.
...and away we go:
DanTex (4,021 posts)
8. A big victory for fans of homicide.
Virtually all criminologists and experts on gun violence are in favor of registering guns -- at least handguns. But, sadly, as long as the supreme court remains controlled by conservatives, we can continue to expect them to thwart attempts to protect innocent lives over the interests of gun fanatics. As this NYT article points out, this threatens to halt or even reverse some of the recent progress that Chicago has made recently towards bringing their homicide rate down.
DUmmies: ignoring that black dudes kill black dudes with unregistered and untracked/untraceable guns since 2001, and counting.
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Because that registry was the only thing preventing Chicago from becoming the murder capital of the United States...oh, wait. It already basically is.
...and away we go:
DUmmies: ignoring that black dudes kill black dudes with unregistered and untracked/untraceable guns since 2001, and counting.
And they ignore the reasons why so many black dudes are killing other black dudes.
DUmmies have zero ability to look at the root causes.
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The DUchebags are really going to be pissed off when Chicago gun crime goes down. It will be interesting to see the pretzels they bend themselves into to explain why that is not due to people having their Second Amendment rights restored.
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DanTex (4,021 posts)
8. A big victory for fans of homicide.
Virtually all criminologists and experts on gun violence are in favor of registering guns -- at least handguns.
Uh, retard, they were already doing that and it made not one damn bit of difference.
I swear, you idiots should be dropped into shit-cago and forced to live with your liberal idiocy.
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The only "root cause" which they immediately turn to for anything is "poverty." Easy answer, case closed.
The gun grabbers are not having a good month.
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The gun grabbers are not having a good month.
Let's hope it continues.
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The only "root cause" which they immediately turn to for anything is "poverty." Easy answer, case closed.
Yes. And they are in poverty because? The DUmmies are in the same mind set as those committing the violence.
They don't take responsibility for their lame assed decisions, aren't held accountable and blame someone else. Oh poor me, I'm a victim.
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Hoodrats killing hoodrats in Chicago is like muzzies killing muzzies in Syria.
It should be quietly, unofficially encouraged.
If a genetically-modified cannibal roach were developed, would we want it to be eradicated?
Hoodrats, muzzies, and roaches are closely related.
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Hoodrats killing hoodrats in Chicago is like muzzies killing muzzies in Syria.
It should be quietly, unofficially encouraged.
If a genetically-modified cannibal roach were developed, would we want it to be eradicated?
Hoodrats, muzzies, and roaches are closely related.
I'm sure that roaches perform some kind of useful function.
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At some point there is going to be an epiphany among them, a catharsis, if you will. Their blinders of emotion will be removed and they'll see life as most of the rest of us see it--clearly, with facts and logic overriding their base fear.
Until that day, screw 'em. Too stupid to learn. Waste of ammo is what they are.
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This could explain a lot of gun violence in Chicago.
U.S. cities become hubs for Mexican drug cartels’ distribution networks
Members of Mexico’s most powerful cartel are selling a record amount of heroin and methamphetamine from Little Village, according to the Drug Enforcement Administration. From there, the drugs are moving onto the streets of south and west Chicago, where they are sold in assembly-line fashion in mostly African American neighborhoods.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-11-03/world/35504505_1_cartels-merida-initiative-mexican-border
Makes you wonder why Obama isn't going after this problem in his own neighborhood.
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Even with recent victories concerning gun rights they are still being infringed upon. Most states still require you to have permit to carry. Even with open carry laws that don't require you to have a permit in to openly carry it is impossible to 100% of the time legally without a concealed carry permit. Why? A loaded gun within your reach in your car is considered "concealed" even if it is in plain view. Till we can carry 100% of the time without having to get permit our rights are still being infringed upon. The 2nd Amendment is OUR PERMIT.
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At some point there is going to be an epiphany among them, a catharsis, if you will. Their blinders of emotion will be removed and they'll see life as most of the rest of us see it--clearly, with facts and logic overriding their base fear.
I used to think so. It was the late 80's. I think. Then I had an epiphany. I finally understood that they are irretrievably insane.
Until that day, screw 'em. Too stupid to learn. Waste of ammo is what they are.
No, no....moving targets are excellent practice.