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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: txradioguy on September 09, 2013, 03:39:07 PM
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I'm reading a book called "Impeachable Offenses" and I'm on the section about Benghazi and what caused the attacks.
Obama signed a secret order authorizing the gun running from Libya to Syria through Benghazi. Petraeus was a big advocate of this program...prodding allies to cooperate and setting up the planes to handle the shipments.
Hillary...according to the book was a minimal player in all of this.
So what if...Hillary was pissed about this. She didn't like her embassies and her Ambassador involved in this...knowing how it could all go wrong and ruin her chances at a Presidential run in 2016. Her dislike for Petraeus goes back to her days as a Senator.
When it all goes south...she goes after the one person she can burn on this. She can't get Obama for obvious reasons. But at the same time she's got to protect herself from getting tossed under the Obama bus.
She knows from her experience in handling the "Bimbo eruptions" what she thinks EVERY mans weakness is and has the background reports on Petraeus from his confirmation hearings and reports to various committees.
She uses her still very powerful contacts in the MSM to leak the Petraeus affair thus ending his career and taking him out of play on the Benghazi situation. Which ends up being a twofer because now Obama looks complicit (which he is) in the bungling of the Benghazi attack and she skates away with minimal damage that the MSM can sweep under the rug 3 years form now.
Like I said...this is just a theory...nothing more than circumstantial evidence and a gut feeling. I mean as much as Obama throws people under the bus...he reached out to Petraeus to save Afghanistan for him then put him in position in the CIA IMO as a reward for taking a step down form the CENTCOM CG to run ISAF. It makes no sense for him to burn his CIA Director...not at a crucial time in the initial investigation of Benghazi.
What say you?
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She didn't like her embassies and her Ambassador involved in this...knowing how it could all go wrong and ruin her chances at a Presidential run in 2016.
I think that's as far as her concern for "her" embassies and consulates went.
You can't get a tiger to change its spots.
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I think that's as far as her concern for the embassies and consulates went.
You can't get a tiger to change its spots.
And that's been her driving force behind everything she does since 1992...if not earlier. And she's willing to do whatever it takes to get there.
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I think that's as far as her concern for "her" embassies and consulates went.
You can't get a tiger to change its spots.
Those spots are Herpes Simplex II sores.....a gift from Bill.
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Well in terms of this group I would say anything is possible. The problem is there is no proof of anything with this crowd. Prove (to anyone) that there was in fact gun running going on. It may well have occurred. How do you keep that from unraveling? Blackmail is probably the most useful weapon to accomplish silence. Once it is no longer effective the plot should unravel rather rapidly.
Hillary bailing on the SOS job is a major indicator as is the plum given Susan Rice for her service taking one for the team on the Sunday shows.
I don't see this going anywhere without a media that is not afraid of taking on the first half black president.
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At this point in time, what difference does it make?
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I'm reading a book called "Impeachable Offenses" and I'm on the section about Benghazi and what caused the attacks.
Obama signed a secret order authorizing the gun running from Libya to Syria through Benghazi. Petraeus was a big advocate of this program...prodding allies to cooperate and setting up the planes to handle the shipments.
Hillary...according to the book was a minimal player in all of this.
So what if...Hillary was pissed about this. She didn't like her embassies and her Ambassador involved in this...knowing how it could all go wrong and ruin her chances at a Presidential run in 2016. Her dislike for Petraeus goes back to her days as a Senator.
When it all goes south...she goes after the one person she can burn on this. She can't get Obama for obvious reasons. But at the same time she's got to protect herself from getting tossed under the Obama bus.
She knows from her experience in handling the "Bimbo eruptions" what she thinks EVERY mans weakness is and has the background reports on Petraeus from his confirmation hearings and reports to various committees.
She uses her still very powerful contacts in the MSM to leak the Petraeus affair thus ending his career and taking him out of play on the Benghazi situation. Which ends up being a twofer because now Obama looks complicit (which he is) in the bungling of the Benghazi attack and she skates away with minimal damage that the MSM can sweep under the rug 3 years form now.
Like I said...this is just a theory...nothing more than circumstantial evidence and a gut feeling. I mean as much as Obama throws people under the bus...he reached out to Petraeus to save Afghanistan for him then put him in position in the CIA IMO as a reward for taking a step down form the CENTCOM CG to run ISAF. It makes no sense for him to burn his CIA Director...not at a crucial time in the initial investigation of Benghazi.
What say you?
If he hadn't let his dick do the thinking and had any integrity worth defending, he wouldn't have been porking that West Point whore while commanding in a war zone where you get UCMJ action for playing kissy-face with anyone the whole year you're there, and he wouldn't have had a problem.
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I'm reading a book called "Impeachable Offenses" and I'm on the section about Benghazi and what caused the attacks.
Obama signed a secret order authorizing the gun running from Libya to Syria through Benghazi. Petraeus was a big advocate of this program...prodding allies to cooperate and setting up the planes to handle the shipments.
What say you?
Petraeus resigned before 9/11. I would think that if Hillary had him pushed out, he would have been more forthcoming during the Benghazi hearings or at least saw to it that the information about gun running got out.
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Petraeus resigned before 9/11. I would think that if Hillary had him pushed out, he would have been more forthcoming during the Benghazi hearings or at least saw to it that the information about gun running got out.
He resigned November 6th.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/us/citing-affair-petraeus-resigns-as-cia-director.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
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If he hadn't let his dick do the thinking and had any integrity worth defending, he wouldn't have been porking that West Point whore while commanding in a war zone where you get UCMJ action for playing kissy-face with anyone the whole year you're there, and he wouldn't have had a problem.
My thoughts as well.
Petraeus ****ed up, he knew it, so he resigned.
Game, set and match.
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If he hadn't let his dick do the thinking and had any integrity worth defending, he wouldn't have been porking that West Point whore while commanding in a war zone where you get UCMJ action for playing kissy-face with anyone the whole year you're there, and he wouldn't have had a problem.
Excuse me, the West Point Whore you are talking about was a female that may have been in love with him. Could be he was in love with her. ?
You do know crap happens and when a male/ female is away from home for months on end, is away from family for months at a time these things do happen. Matter of fact I would wonder about a male that did not have a problem with this.
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Excuse me, the West Point Whore you are talking about was a female that may have been in love with him. Could be he was in love with her. ?
You do know crap happens and when a male/ female is away from home for months on end, is away from family for months at a time these things do happen. Matter of fact I would wonder about a male that did not have a problem with this.
Doesn't matter whether she loved him or not, ma'am. The rules and regulations regarding internecine dating in the services are explicit and unforgiving, and both of them knew exactly what they were when they ****ed up.
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Excuse me, the West Point Whore you are talking about was a female that may have been in love with him. Could be he was in love with her. ?
You do know crap happens and when a male/ female is away from home for months on end, is away from family for months at a time these things do happen.
Nothing you just sputtered to say in any way shape or form justifies what they did. They were both commissioned officers. This was conduct unbecoming no matter how your Libtard mind tries to explain it away as just "good clean fun".
Matter of fact I would wonder about a male that did not have a problem with this.
Then I guess you'd better wonder about me you ignorant cow. I've spent the better part of four years of my Army career deployed in various shit holes around the world and never ONCE did anything like that.
I DO have a problem with it...the majority of soldiers serving have a fu*king problem with it. You couldn't be more out of touch with how soldiers feel about this if you were on fu*king MARS!
Say something now you fu*king moron.
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He resigned November 6th.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/us/citing-affair-petraeus-resigns-as-cia-director.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Your right. The article I saw had the date as 2012/11/9 and I read it wrong. They started to investigate him back in Feb.-Apr. Interesting it surfaced when it did. Maybe that's the way government keeps everyone toeing the line.
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Your right. The article I saw had the date as 2012/11/9 and I read it wrong. They started to investigate him back in Feb.-Apr. Interesting it surfaced when it did. Maybe that's the way government keeps everyone toeing the line.
It's certainly one way to make sure they do what you want them to.
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Excuse me, the West Point Whore you are talking about was a female that may have been in love with him. Could be he was in love with her. ?
You do know crap happens and when a male/ female is away from home for months on end, is away from family for months at a time these things do happen. Matter of fact I would wonder about a male that did not have a problem with this.
That's just too ****ing dumb to merit an answer, but I'll give you this much of one - he and his subordinate commanders ruined other people's careers for exactly the same thing, to then turn around and do it himself is totally unacceptable and a grave failure in leadership and dishonor to his service. Spare me the 'We wuz in luuuuvvvv' horseshit.
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That's just too ****ing dumb to merit an answer, but I'll give you this much of one - he and his subordinate commanders ruined other people's careers for exactly the same thing, to then turn around and do it himself is totally unacceptable and a grave failure in leadership and dishonor to his service. Spare me the 'We wuz in luuuuvvvv' horseshit.
Sorry but having watched all these Leaders of Nations down to those at the end of the totem pole, have their live and career ruined because of SEX what the heck am I suppose to think.
I think my first eye opener came when a grand child asked me about Oral Sex after watching the news. WTF was I to tell her, she was 8 years old and I was aghast to have a question like that from a child because she watched our President twist and turn, do the white mans shuck and jive in public.
[ I took the easy way out and told her to go ask HER mother.] Thank heavens for being a grandmother, one can hand the child back to the parents and escape the responsibility of trying to explain the strange things going on in to days world.
Hell even those raised in the 70's watching MASH and to days reruns know about Frank and Hot Lips.
One in the last 10-15 years can compile a Loooong list of People in some kind of government service that have screwed up their careers and marriages because of sex.
Who would have thought 20 years or more ago a openly Gay man who was accused of allowing his home to be run as a male Whore house would become a leader in State politics in Mass.
Now I like Petraeus, good man for the job, a hard working patriot that simply gave in to his urges as a male. Poor fella, he was taken down for something our Past President and who knows how many others were guilty of.
In most of the world leaders are expected to have mistresses, fact of life for thousands of years. Was it not France where when the leader died both wife and mistress stood together to morn.?
Very civilized and as we know even Eisenhower had a long time mistress in Europe. Then Kennedy, Johnson who jumped anything that moved, Nixon was into politics more then Sex, Carter a strange one, life aboard his boat must have been hell for the crew.
Tanker a fact of life is that one can set up rules of behavior for anyone, but when it comes to human needs, love, comfort and a willing ear to help one through the day or night, forget it, call it love or lust, this is important as food clothing or shelter.
Tanker, read up on the adventures of Admiral Perry, left a wife in Boston to be gone for years exploring the north seas. DNA shows the Eskimos have much blood from him and his crews.
When I first married into the service I in no way expected my husband to go for months without some kind of sex. This was the nature of the beast, on land I expected total faith fullness, however when he set sail for months at a time and pulled into a port of call, heck, the poor dude deserved some R&R as I was not there to give it to him.
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Sorry but having watched all these Leaders of Nations down to those at the end of the totem pole, have their live and career ruined because of SEX what the heck am I suppose to think.
Blah, blah, blah...
He did unto others and got no worse than he dished out to them, he doesn't deserve any pity for it. And Perry (Are you sure you don't mean Peary? They are two different admirals. 'Peary' was the Arctic explorer) didn't court-martial anyone for screwing the Eskimos.
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What difference does it make if Hitlery's "what difference does it make" offensive comment about the 4 dead Americans in Benghazi costs her the presidency ?
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What difference does it make if Hitlery's "what difference does it make" offensive comment about the 4 dead Americans in Benghazi costs her the presidency ?
Well, I for one will be a lot happier if it DOES cost her that, so it makes some difference to me!
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^That makes all the difference to me !