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Title: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: txradioguy on September 06, 2013, 05:17:20 PM
There is a growing volume of new evidence from numerous sources in the Middle East — mostly affiliated with the Syrian opposition and its sponsors and supporters — which makes a very strong case, based on solid circumstantial evidence, that the August 21, 2013, chemical strike in the Damascus suburbs was indeed a pre-meditated provocation by the Syrian opposition.

The extent of US foreknowledge of this provocation needs further investigation because available data puts the “horror” of the Barack Obama White House in a different and disturbing light.

On August 13-14, 2013, Western-sponsored opposition forces in Turkey started advance preparations for a major and irregular military surge. Initial meetings between senior opposition military commanders and representatives of Qatari, Turkish, and US Intelligence [“Mukhabarat Amriki”] took place at the converted Turkish military garrison in Antakya, Hatay Province, used as the command center and headquarters of the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and their foreign sponsors. Very senior opposition commanders who had arrived from Istanbul briefed the regional commanders of an imminent escalation in the fighting due to “a war-changing development” which would, in turn, lead to a US-led bombing of Syria.

The opposition forces had to quickly prepare their forces for exploiting the US-led bombing in order to march on Damascus and topple the Bashar al-Assad Government, the senior commanders explained. The Qatari and Turkish intelligence officials assured the Syrian regional commanders that they would be provided with plenty of weapons for the coming offensive.

Indeed, unprecedented weapons distribution started in all opposition camps in Hatay Province on August 21-23, 2013. In the Reyhanli area alone, opposition forces received well in excess of 400 tons of weapons, mainly anti-aircraft weaponry from shoulder-fired missiles to ammunition for light-guns and machineguns. The weapons were distributed from store-houses controlled by Qatari and Turkish Intelligence under the tight supervision of US Intelligence.

These weapons were loaded on more than 20 trailer-trucks which crossed into northern Syria and distributed the weapons to several depots. Follow-up weapon shipments, also several hundred tons, took place over the weekend of August 24-25, 2013, and included mainly sophisticated anti-tank guided missiles and rockets. Opposition officials in Hatay said that these weapon shipments were “the biggest” they had received “since the beginning of the turmoil more than two years ago”. The deliveries from Hatay went to all the rebel forces operating in the Idlib-to-Aleppo area, including the al-Qaida affiliated jihadists (who constitute the largest rebel forces in the area).

Several senior officials from both the Syrian opposition and sponsoring Arab states stressed that these weapon deliveries were specifically in anticipation for exploiting the impact of imminent bombing of Syria by the US and the Western allies. The latest strategy formulation and coordination meetings took place on August 26, 2013. The political coordination meeting took place in Istanbul and was attended by US Amb. Robert Ford.

More important were the military and operational coordination meetings at the Antakya garrison. Senior Turkish, Qatari, and US Intelligence officials attended in addition to the Syrian senior (opposition) commanders. The Syrians were informed that bombing would start in a few days.

“The opposition was told in clear terms that action to deter further use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime could come as early as in the next few days,” a Syrian participant in the meeting said. Another Syrian participant said that he was convinced US bombing was scheduled to begin on Thursday, August 29, 2013. Several participants — both Syrian and Arab — stressed that the assurances of forthcoming bombing were most explicit even as formally Obama is still undecided.

The descriptions of these meetings raise the question of the extent of foreknowledge of US Intelligence, and therefore, the Obama White House. All the sources consulted — both Syrian and Arab — stressed that officials of the “Mukhabarat Amriki” actively participated in the meetings and briefings in Turkey. Therefore, at the very least, they should have known that the opposition leaders were anticipating “a war-changing development”: that is, a dramatic event which would provoke a US-led military intervention.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/did-the-white-house-help-plan-the-syrian-chemical-attack/5347542#sthash.yz9zWr1P.dpuf
Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: txradioguy on September 06, 2013, 05:36:19 PM
Sarajevo, 1995 and Damascus, 2013: The use of mass attack deception to decide wars


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Then, on Aug. 28, 1995, at around 11:00 hrs local, a mortar shell appeared to hit the Markale market place in Sarajevo, killing 38 people and wounding another 90. Russian Col. Andrei Demurenko, then the commander of UN Forces in Sarajevo, immediately rushed with an UNPROFOR team to the supposed Bosnian-Serb mortar positions and ascertained that none of them could have been used to fire the mortar rounds.

Demurenko’s report stated that the Bosnian-Serb forces were falsely blamed for the attack on the Markale.

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The Aug. 21, 2013, chemical attack in Ghouta, a suburb of Damascus, might become the Markale of the Syrian war.

On Aug. 19, a UN expert delegation arrived in Damascus to study reports and evidence of earlier use of chemical weapons. The next day, they were presented with detailed scientific, technical, and military data about the alleged chemical attacks, soil contamination and why the Syrian Armed Forces could not have carried out these attacks.

Russian and other foreign experts who studied the data separately found it compelling.

The Syrian military also presented the UN team with detailed intelligence evidence about chemical weapons and production labs affiliated with the opposition discovered in Syria, Turkey and Iraq.

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/08/22/sarajevo-1995-and-damascus-2013-the-use-of-mass-attack-deception-to-decide-wars/
Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on September 06, 2013, 08:03:12 PM
It would not surprise me a damned bit to find out that all the supposed 'Intelligence' nailing Syrian regime chemical units as being in the area was the product of a black op, such as a source telling the regime that rebel units would be using VX in the area to draw in the regime units for response/reprisal (As permitted under those so-called "International norms").  I have no faith in the integrity of our intelligence machinery after the lies they have been caught telling lately.
Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: chitownchica on September 06, 2013, 11:19:24 PM
Did you all see the news of Elizabeth O'Bagy, the woman from the Institute of the Study of War? She's the one who Kerry and McCain seem to be relying on, and has been all over the news talking about how moderate the  Free Syrian Army is.  Now it's being reported she's also political director for the Syrian Emergency Task Force (SETF), and works with SETF’s executive director Mouaz Moustafa. These two arranged Juan McLame's trip to visit with the 'moderates'.  

From an article I read on PJMedia:

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Moustafa and O’Bagy arranged McCain’s trip to Syria through the Syrian Emergency Task Force.

You probably have guessed where this is going by now. Mr. Moustafa is a Palestinian Arab, and was involved in the Libya war before he turned up in Syria. He openly hates Israel. He opposed the overthrow of Mohammed Morsi in Egypt. He hearts Hamas. Connect that dot to O’Bagy’s take on the strike that killed Ahmed al-Jabari, above.

In short, the man behind the source for the notion that Syria’s rebellion is moderate is, himself, an Islamist among Islamists, according to FrontPage.

    One member of the SETF’s Board of Trustees/Board of Directors, Dr. Jihad Qaddour, was also a trustee of the Muslim American Society, which is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Another, Bassam Estwani, appears to have been the Imam of the Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center, also known as Al-Qaeda leader Anwar Al-Awlaki’s former mosque. The mosque was considered a front for Hamas and other “Islamic extremists” by the Treasury Department.

    A third, Zaher Sahloul, appears to be the Chairman of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Chicago, an organization with terrorist links which is involved in organizing a boycott of Israel.

“Syria’s rebels are moderates,” according to the disinformation very effectively spread by the Syrian Emergency Task Force.

Taqiyya!

 :thatsright:

ETA link:  http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/05/why-do-john-kerry-and-john-mccain-believe-that-syrias-rebels-are-mostly-moderate/
Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: Bad Dog on September 07, 2013, 10:00:30 AM
Big surprise here.  Bathhouse Barry puts together an elaborate plan and gets the muzzies all fired up and then loses his nerve.  Why should they be any different than U.S. citizens.
Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 07, 2013, 10:03:31 AM
Big surprise here.  Bathhouse Barry puts together an elaborate plan and gets the muzzies all fired up and then loses his nerve.  Why should they be any different than U.S. citizens.

There's room under the Obama bus for everyone.
Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: Mr Mannn on September 07, 2013, 10:57:05 AM
The fact that I'm NOT dismissing this as just another stupid conspiracy theory says a lot.
It has all the amateurish marks of the Obama admin. The way it has backfired screams incompetence.
Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: JohnnyReb on September 07, 2013, 11:00:42 AM
The fact that I'm NOT dismissing this as just another stupid conspiracy theory says a lot.
It has all the amateurish marks of the Obama admin. The way it has backfired screams incompetence.


Like the failed U.S. ambassador kidnapping blunder that caused the death of 4 Americans?
Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: Dori on September 07, 2013, 11:55:27 AM
The fact that I'm NOT dismissing this as just another stupid conspiracy theory says a lot.
It has all the amateurish marks of the Obama admin. The way it has backfired screams incompetence.

Obama's half brother, Malik Obama, is under investigation by several countries and Egypt just put him on their terrorist watch list, because of funneling money through a charity fund to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Malik has been to the WH several times, and in 2011 received an expedited non-profit classification from the IRS, signed by Lois Learner. 

http://shoebat.com/2013/05/28/confirmed-barack-obamas-brother-in-bed-with-man-wanted-by-international-criminal-court-icc-for-crimes-against-humanity/





Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: vesta111 on September 07, 2013, 12:16:55 PM


Like the failed U.S. ambassador kidnapping blunder that caused the death of 4 Americans?

Don't we know by now that who ever gives the money to the Americans politicians are the ones America will back ???

Don't matter if you are Flat nose Louie from the Mafia or some big Hollywood producer that decides to black mail people with a threat to out Congress.  

It's the freaking money that  can, or could come their way.

It is the damn money that costs more the millions to seat a president, I wonder what the cost is to seat a Governor or even a Mayor.  

Interesting to hear of small town politics  when a lousy 2 grand can get you new zoning laws and the ability to sell off a few acres of wet lands to an Energy company, was this not done in California when land was sold for a Nuclear energy com bought straddling a earth quake zone ???

Has to be a reason the American public will fund these people, or big industry , labor unions willing to pay up the butt to get their man in office.    What can they do for us outsiders nothing, why should they?    --- but someone is driving a $150,00 car  with a new home on the water front for backing their man for living the time of their lives.

Some give a damn about anyone but themselves,   Get the money, get the boats and Private Jets, get the homes it takes 30 people to be paid to keep up.   Keep the kids off your back by giving them any damn thing they want. The kids will keep coming home to demand more, you owe it to them. In the back fields those we that do not have your problems are up your butt for denomination's to the political party you once supported.    

Mean while the wife is getting it on with the pool boy, you are looking around for another wife, younger with no kids yet. Your kids are all in therapy and the next thing to happen is the stock market crashes.

Who says having big money is any fun ?????



Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: Dori on September 07, 2013, 12:34:02 PM

Who says having big money is any fun ?????

It's the whole power broker game.  I would imagine they think it's exciting, for awhile anyway.  At least until they become beholden' to too many, threatened, offed, bankrupted or jailed.  We don't hear about all the suicides (cough, cough) in that group either.  :whatever:

Title: Re: Did the White House Help Plan the Syrian Chemical Attack?
Post by: Zathras on September 07, 2013, 02:53:33 PM
Sadly this does not surprise me in the least. The Empty Suit we have in the White House is making it possible for his comrades to spread fundamentalist Islamic rule in the Middle East. The man is an agent for the Muslim Brotherhood in secret and is doing what he can to assist them.