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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on September 04, 2013, 06:09:56 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018473008
Oh my.
It's always good to hear of the woes of the primitives.
underpants (105,817 posts) Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:42 PM
Rough rough day at work probably my toughest ever
sorry I just need to vent and my wife is sad enough already.
First I was told yesterday that I had to sign a new employment contract/confidentiality agreement by 9 am or I would be fired. No they aren't supposed to do that but they did....that is why I am trying to get out of this job. Two lawyers looked at the agreement and both said it was a ridiculous document - they can make me come back to work for them? no damages needed for a lawsuit? etc. Yes they are suing a former employee (that they fired) so I didn't want to sign it. I did. I could have stood on principle but they finally (on the 3rd request) gave me the contract I signed 4 years ago and it was virtually the same - hey I needed the job.
So I signed it. It is easier to get a job WITH a job than without or so they say.
45 minutes later I get a email on my iPhone from a recruiter I am working with. I interviewed 3 times for a really great job - he and I thought I was a lock - and didn't get the job. I called him and he explained that they decided to not hire anyone. There was another candidate but they didn't get the job either. The last interview was 2 hours and it included going to lunch which usually means you have the job. My recruiter was flat out shocked, everything had been so positive. The Director wanted to hire me after the first interview but needed to cover their tracks by interviewing other people and that break in time lead to not pulling the trigger so to speak.
All day I sat at work feeling like the a-holes who (mis)run my the company had won AND I couldn't tell anyone how $#itty of a day I was having.
Look I know there are people with a lot worse problems but this was like a double kick in the stomach.
....and then I picked up my little girl at daycare, came home and practiced soccer, and I don't feel so bad.
Tough day. If you made it to this point thanks for listening to my vent.
CaliforniaPeggy (105,700 posts) Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:49 PM
1. I am so sorry, my dear underpants...
We can talk all we like about standing up to the Man, and take this job and shove it, and all that.
But we need those jobs. Our families need us to have them.
Those dirty, scummy people who forced you to do this, and the company who left you hanging. God damn them all.
Some times I really understand the folks who snap.
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We had a new hire at work who said he was only working there until something better came along. He didn't make it that far, since he was fired for those comments.
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Well, let's see. First, the guy is a DUmmy. The guy thinks it's cool to call himself "underpants". The guy has over a hundred thousand posts at the DUmp. The guy plays soccer. The guy thinks it's worth bragging to the DUmp about having an iPhone. And, finally, the guy is a DUmmy.
Given those qualifications is there any chance, any chance whatsoever, that he has ever been considered for a "really great job"?
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CaliforniaPeggy (105,700 posts) Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:49 PM
1. I am so
sorry,
my dear underpants...
Great start! Where is the rest of this calplop?
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I hear there is an IT job available in New Jersey.
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underpants (105,817 posts) Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:42 PM
45 minutes later I get a email on my iPhone from a recruiter I am working with. I interviewed 3 times for a really great job - he and I thought I was a lock - and didn't get the job. I called him and he explained that they decided to not hire anyone.
That seems to have been happening a lot lately. Any ideas what could have caused that...?
:ownit:
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Newsflash, DUmmies--never, EVER count on an offer.
I say that based on a job I've had for seven years now. And I'd have a signed offer before I even THOUGHT of giving any notice at my current job.
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The guy thinks it's cool to call himself "underpants".
Do men really say "underpants"? :???:
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Do men really say "underpants"? :???:
Mine are either called undershorts or underwear, my wife wears panties.
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Do men really say "underpants"? :???:
Down here in TX we call them draws.
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Down here in TX we call them draws.
LOL yes we do.
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First I was told yesterday that I had to sign a new employment contract/confidentiality agreement by 9 am or I would be fired. No they aren't supposed to do that but they did....that is why I am trying to get out of this job. Two lawyers looked at the agreement and both said it was a ridiculous document - they can make me come back to work for them?
The Dummy just wanted to try and impress the other DUmmies by bragging that he had to sign a confidentiality agreement because his job is so secret and important and he has two lawyers looking into it. My ass.
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Many moons ago when I had a mole on the island, I conversed with this primitive from time to time. He went to VCU and is dumber than a bag of hammers. If this is true, the potential new employer dodged a bullet.
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That seems to have been happening a lot lately. Any ideas what could have caused that...?
:ownit:
Duh, we have......get ready for it........a black President. Everything on this planet is now predicated on how to handle people based on that fact. Get used to it.
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Wait a minute. You had lawyers looking at a company confidentiality agreement?
------isn't that a violation of the agreement? And now you're posting it on the net for all to see?
Do we have another wallduding in progress? Do we have a clue as to where Underpants works? This is more serious that lying to one's boss about the remote.
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Wait a minute. You had lawyers looking at a company confidentiality agreement?
------isn't that a violation of the agreement? And now you're posting it on the net for all to see?
Do we have another wallduding in progress? Do we have a clue as to where Underpants works? This is more serious that lying to one's boss about the remote.
I doubt that. Lawyers are under ethical standards when it comes to confidentiality as well. I do believe one can have someone look at the legalities of any document they are signing when it comes to employment. I would expect there are no 'trade secrets' in the document itself, just legalese regarding disclosure of confidential information. Big difference. Don't run off the cliff because its a primitive. It's prudent to have a lawyer look at contractual arrangements as they are the experts on such things.
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Wah. For a moment there I thought I was all jiggy with it.
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underpants (105,817 posts) Wed Sep 4, 2013, 06:42 PM
Rough rough day at work probably my toughest ever
Typical DUmmie, whining on a public forum. Hey DUmbass, anybody thats been in the workforce more than a week has had bad days. You don't whine on the internet about it, you go home drink a couple of beers, get some sleep, and start all over the next morning.
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That doesn't really sound like a "rough rough day, probably the toughest ever." Not by a long shot. Did he actually do any "work?" Sounds more like dealing with a rejection, and stewing over his current circumstances, then bitching on the internet about his company. That's not work, DUmbass. You stole an entire day of company time, chasing another job even.
I'm questioning the "sign this by 9 am or else," and then him arranging for two lawyers to examine it on a moment's notice. By 9.
CalPig comes across as a nasty piece of work, doesn't she? She's always the first to respond to these things, from her "God damn them all" here, to applauding Doug Bulna's act of vandalism at Gearhart Chevy.
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Anything past having to show up at work is a rough day at work for a DUmmie.
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Wah. For a moment there I thought I was all jiggy with it.
Your first mistake was assuming any DUmmie is going to "pay" for one lawyer let alone two. I suppose he might try to mooch some free Legal Aide assistance but, he doesn't appear to be poverty stricken.
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I doubt that. Lawyers are under ethical standards when it comes to confidentiality as well. I do believe one can have someone look at the legalities of any document they are signing when it comes to employment.
Yes. There is nothing wrong with doing that.
On the other hand, it never happened, so he's even further into the clear.
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Wait a minute. You had lawyers looking at a company confidentiality agreement?
------isn't that a violation of the agreement? And now you're posting it on the net for all to see?
Do we have another wallduding in progress? Do we have a clue as to where Underpants works? This is more serious that lying to one's boss about the remote.
Given that "underpants" has over 100k posts at the DUmp, I suppose someone could row over and do some digging to find out where the clown works.
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Wait a minute. You had lawyers looking at a company confidentiality agreement?
------isn't that a violation of the agreement? And now you're posting it on the net for all to see?
Do we have another wallduding in progress? Do we have a clue as to where Underpants works? This is more serious that lying to one's boss about the remote.
Pretty sure he meant the company lawyers, who finally persuaded him to sign it by showing him the one he'd already signed when he joined was pretty much the same.
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So his toughest day ever involved needing to sign a confidentiality agreement, and being rejected from another job? Wow, he must have a pretty cushy job.
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Newsflash, DUmmies--never, EVER count on an offer.
I say that based on a job I've had for seven years now. And I'd have a signed offer before I even THOUGHT of giving any notice at my current job.
Ouch, Ex had a great job at NUS and was side slapped by a head hunter for some other Company that recruited ex-nukes that had retired.
These ex Nukes go into the civilian blind to the facts of life. All those years of Military and BAMB they have to adjust to life on the outside. 20+ years with someone over them that gave them their orders, and backed them up when they had a problem.
Not so civilian life, one is on their own, no telling what kind of crap they can get into.
So EX was found by a head hunter, taken out to dinner, dined and wined, given every reason to quit his job and come to work for them. Choice of location, much better pay and lots of perks.
Ex liked his job and turned them down. Head hunters were not happy, they had spent a bit of money to fly him across country to talk to the so called big wigs, put him up for a week in an expensive Hotel, taken him on the town and for all I know a free Hooker of the sex and age of his choice.
Ex comes home to find he is called into some office with 4-5 strange men., that grilled him about his association with the head hunters. As he told me the employer of him were not going to diddle around with him, his $120,000 a year pay check.
Good man and I say as an ex wife, while the kids and I got just $200, a month for us he was first and for most an honest man in his mind. We survived without him , shit happens and the life he wanted to have came to him-----He died at 62 and none of his children felt grief at his passing . We never knew the man, he was out to sea for most of the kids lives and when he came home he had no idea of what to do with all these kids-.
To this day I wonder what would have become of him had he gone with the head hunters, a better life , as staying with his old job became a mess and he retired from that to drive a school buss.
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Why would potential employers need to interview others to "give them cover"? If they found the exact person they were looking for why would they waste time & resources interviewing other people. And would they actually need so much cover that they'd have another guy go through the same stages as him, using the same amount of money & resources, just to provide additional cover?
Cindie
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Vesta, that's what happens when you look for work and are stupid enough to LET YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYER KNOW YOU ARE DOING IT.
For the record, I don't even go to the websites of other utilities on work computers. I haven't applied for a job for over seven years now, although my resume is updated and ready to go at any time.
If I get an e-mail from a recruiter on my work e-mail, I politely ask them to contact me via other means if they wish me to pass their leads along, otherwise, thanks but no thanks.
Bottom line, even in a job where you're marketable and in demand, nobody, but I mean NOBODY(!) is "fire-proof."
And for the record, yeah, we spend a lot of time at sea. I spend a lot of time at work. Doesn't make me a shitty father. Just ask Scoobs. She'll give you plenty of reasons I'm a shitty father, but my work ethic isn't one of them.
(Yeah, that last line was kind of in jest.)
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Why would potential employers need to interview others to "give them cover"? If they found the exact person they were looking for why would they waste time & resources interviewing other people. And would they actually need so much cover that they'd have another guy go through the same stages as him, using the same amount of money & resources, just to provide additional cover?
Cindie
They don't. Typically, if someone is going to go to the time/trouble/expense to fly you out to a face-to-face interview, there's about a 95 percent chance you're their guy/gal. I did three phone interviews and a preliminary background check before I was flown from CA to NH to do my interview. I had my interview at 9 am, and my verbal offer by noon, and a written offer hit the house about a day after I got home.
Bottom line, if you don't get past the phone interview stage, you were never a serious candidate.
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Why would potential employers need to interview others to "give them cover"? If they found the exact person they were looking for why would they waste time & resources interviewing other people. And would they actually need so much cover that they'd have another guy go through the same stages as him, using the same amount of money & resources, just to provide additional cover?
Cindie
Some places might require a certain number of minority interviews or even in house interviews for an upper position. My employer rarely places help wanted ads, and relies mainly on referrals from current employees. It is a small business, though.
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This panty waist wouldn't survive a rough day in my line of work.