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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on September 03, 2013, 10:44:27 AM
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Boehner says he'll back Obama on Syria strikes
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/03/20308438-boehner-says-hell-back-obama-on-syria-strikes?lite
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, on Tuesday endorsed President Barack Obama’s call for military action in Syria.
The top elected Republican in Washington, Boehner said following a meeting at the White House that he intended to support Obama’s plan for limited strikes against the regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria.
"I am going to support the president's call for action,†he told reporters.
I do not think all of Congress will approve and will cross party lines. Never liked Boehner.
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He must be on Viagra. Those long-term medical boners can be hard to get rid of.
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It's official. The GOP has become totally irrelevant to me.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I0xdaM94pn4[/youtube]
Boehner says he'll back Obama on Syria strikes
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/03/20308438-boehner-says-hell-back-obama-on-syria-strikes?lite
I do not think all of Congress will approve and will cross party lines. Never liked Boehner.
I think I called this in another thread somewhere.
You simply cannot depend on Boehner to do anything but cry. Oh, and fellate Barry and Dingy Harry. Probably at the same time.
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I emailed my Congresscritter (Vicky Hartzler, R-MO 4th District) today with a definite and pointed suggestion that she vote NO on any kind of military action against Syria.
But she, like most of her Republican compadres, will bow to the Republican "leadership" and it won't matter WTF I or anybody else "suggests."
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I emailed my Congresscritter (Vicky Hartzler, R-MO 4th District) today with a definite and pointed suggestion that she vote NO on any kind of military action against Syria.
But she, like most of her Republican compadres, will bow to the Republican "leadership" and it won't matter WTF I or anybody else "suggests."
I asked my Rep. Blake Farenthold, to vote "present". He sent back the usual mealy mouth reply. He's on his second term and has the Washington two step down pat.
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Never liked Boehner.
He certainly has earned the name "Bonehead Boehner".
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What in the hell does the SS/FBI/NSA/CIA have on Boehner's file that sits in Obama's drawer?
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Who will be running against him in the primary? Anyone? Bueller?
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Who will be running against him in the primary? Anyone? Bueller?
I don't know but they will be getting the check I was going to send to my useless Rep.
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First time ever I've reached out to my representative. (Mike Conaway - R TX 11th District) I asked him to vote no.
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First time ever I've reached out to my representative. (Mike Conaway - R TX 11th District) I asked him to vote no.
I asked Blake Farenthold (R) TX-27 to vote "present" as a little slap to O'bummer. I hope you don't get a mealy mouth reply like I did.
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First time ever I've reached out to my representative. (Mike Conaway - R TX 11th District) I asked him to vote no.
And even more shocking, m/zeit wrote ALL her reps an nice note. She was angry, very angry , I think she went a bit beyond just NO. Wait, I hear someone knocking at the door....
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And even more shocking, m/zeit wrote ALL her reps an nice note. She was angry, very angry , I think she went a bit beyond just NO. Wait, I hear someone knocking at the door....
I flat-out told my critter I'll be watching her vote very, very carefully.
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I flat-out told my critter I'll be watching her vote very, very carefully.
You can bet they will be watching you, you malcontent.
(http://s16.postimg.org/jv7jxwsxx/Patriot_Act_Doorhanger.jpg)
Keep an eye out for one of these with the appropriate blocks checked off. :rotf:
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It would be a waste of my time to contact old baldy's office (Jim Cooper). I'll be pleasantly surprised if he tells Obama to stick his request where the sun don't shine but I'm not holding my breath.
Alexander is already a 'Yes' vote as far as I'm concerned. Corker will probably do whatever Lamar tells him to.
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You can bet they will be watching you, you malcontent.
(http://s16.postimg.org/jv7jxwsxx/Patriot_Act_Doorhanger.jpg)
Keep an eye out for one of these with the appropriate blocks checked off. :rotf:
I've got my grill starter strategically positioned at the front door. When and if it comes, poof, like a puff of smoke it's gone.
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Who will be running against him in the primary? Anyone? Bueller?
Of course, if you listen to the P-Town North Herald, Che-Pelosi has to "think it over" before she votes however her masters tell her to.
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Maybe this strike will be like the DUmmie strikes.....never happens.....or it fails.
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And even more shocking, m/zeit wrote ALL her reps an nice note. She was angry, very angry , I think she went a bit beyond just NO. Wait, I hear someone knocking at the door....
No doubt Che-Pelosi had some 19-year old intern read it to her.
I swear to God, that woman needs an extra staffer to make sure she's watered twice a week.
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No doubt Che-Pelosi had some 19-year old intern read it to her.
I swear to God, that woman needs an extra staffer to make sure she's watered twice a week.
Need to use some ROUNDUP on Che-Pelosi.
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I think enough dumb ass Repubs in the House will vote yes and it will pass. The Senate will rubber stamp it also. If this was not bad enough, the Russian are sending ships in that area. One screw up and we will have World War III on our hands. We will really look stupid if the Russian provoke an attack and that sissy in the W.H. house does not do nothing but open his stupid mouth. I have absolutely no confidence in that moron and coward.
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I think enough dumb ass Repubs in the House will vote yes and it will pass. The Senate will rubber stamp it also. If this was not bad enough, the Russian are sending ships in that area. One screw up and we will have World War III on our hands. We will really look stupid if the Russian provoke an attack and that sissy in the W.H. house does not do nothing but open his stupid mouth. I have absolutely no confidence in that moron and coward.
If [and that is the biggest small word in the dictionary] Boehner had a brain he would come out saying Republicans should vote their conscience then orchestrate behind the scene to ensure Dems had to do the same which would mean that to pass the measure the math would require Dems to vote en mass for Obie while gaining 18 Republican Votes. If Dems vote Against Obama's war plans hold their feet to the fire back in the districts when they do. If they vote for Obama's war hold their feet to the fire for that too. This can be a political win/win if they play it right.
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I think enough dumb ass Repubs in the House will vote yes and it will pass. The Senate will rubber stamp it also. If this was not bad enough, the Russian are sending ships in that area. One screw up and we will have World War III on our hands. We will really look stupid if the Russian provoke an attack and that sissy in the W.H. house does not do nothing but open his stupid mouth. I have absolutely no confidence in that moron and coward.
The Russians would actually be on the legal high ground if they did intervene in our attack and tried to shoot down anything flying into Syria. We haven't been attacked, no ally of ours has been attacked, no attack on either one by Syria is imminent, and the UN has not authorized military force against Assad, hence any attack by us is an act of aggression under international law. The Russians would be acting within accepted international law (Not just BS 'Norms') to use military force against anything we send in, since Syria is their ally and would be the victim of any such act of aggression.
So if this stupid idea actually gets executed, it had better be with purely-unpiloted vehicles like Tomahawks instead of any manned aircraft, or we may be finding out a lot more than we wanted to know about the latest developments in Russian air defense, interceptor, and AWACS technology vs. Stealth bombers. While the Russians could attack the launch platforms with the same legality, it's pretty unlikely the Russian Federation Navy really wants to get into ship-to-ship combat with us.
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I'm still betting Vlad will hide a couple of his old jock straps in heating vents and cut off the water to Obamas room during the G-8.
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I got this canned reply from Vicky Hartzler, my congresscritter:
Thank you for sharing your reactions to the worrisome conflict in Syria. I am concerned for the people of Syria, and we must remain vigilant to protect the security interests of the United States while this conflict continues to develop.
As you may know, Syria's President Bashar Assad has been fighting against various rebel groups for the past two years to retain control of the country. Various concerning human rights violations have taken place during Syria's civil war, including the use of poison gas against Syrian citizens. American defense and intelligence agencies are assessing the situation so informed decisions can be made about how to proceed. Their analysis will attempt to discern the nature of the opposition forces and capabilities. It is a complicated situation with no easy answers, but one of utmost importance.
The Middle East is a sensitive region where the United States has long worked to promote freedom and stability. America has worked with many Middle Eastern countries on the grounds that partnerships of mutual understanding and respect will promote stability in the region and support our long-term national security interests.
While I am pleased that the President will consult with Congress and seek Congressional authorization before taking military action in Syria, I have deep reservations over launching any military action against Syria. There is no doubt that the use of chemical weapons against innocent civilian populations is an atrocity. However, engaging our country in another conflict in the Middle East requires a clear violation of direct U.S. interests, clear military objectives, and well-defined policy goals from the President, and those have not yet been identified for this situation. I will continue to visit with constituents, take in all facts, survey the intelligence, and talk with leaders in the defense community before final consideration.
Rest assured, as a Member of the House Armed Services Committee, I will be monitoring evolving events in Syria and the broader Middle East very closely to determine if Congress should authorize the use of force or stay out of this conflict. Your input is very important to me and I appreciate you taking time to voice your thoughts on this crucial matter.
Thank you again for sharing your concerns. It is a privilege to be your Representative in Congress and to work for the safety and security of all Americans.
With best regards, I remain,
Very truly yours,
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Vicky Hartzler
Member of Congress
Holding her cards close to her chest. That means she's gonna salute Boehner's flag. Either that or she truly has her head up her ass and can't see the forest for the trees. :mad: :rant:
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Rep. Conaway didn't respond directly, but this is what's on his FB page.
t is unquestioned that the use of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons should be universally condemned and confronted. However, I believe that the president has not yet presented a plan that would fully address the use of chemical weapons in Syria and prevent future chemical attacks by the Assad regime on the Syrian people. As I have heard at town halls and from calls to my offices, the people of Texas’ 11th congressional district aren’t persuaded either. It is the responsibility of the president to make a case for military intervention and the responsibility of Congress to vote on it. As I return to Washington next week, I will continue to push for answers and evidence on the situation in Syria and the future of the Assad regime.
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Hell, I'd like to see the evidence it was Assad's forces that used them. If he was winning through conventional means, what purpose did it serve to do the one thing he knew would inflame world opinion? He's a thug but not a theocrat blinded by a deep desire to do Allah's will.
The "opposition" the other hand would love the propaganda windfall of gassing people and having the world blame it on the government. I mean, they are the same type of people that think nothing of strapping bombs to themselves or their kids and blowing themselves up in a market... Not too much of a stretch from there to gassing some civilians for the greater good...
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Hell, I'd like to see the evidence it was Assad's forces that used them. If he was winning through conventional means, what purpose did it serve to do the one thing he knew would inflame world opinion? He's a thug but not a theocrat blinded by a deep desire to do Allah's will.
The "opposition" the other hand would love the propaganda windfall of gassing people and having the world blame it on the government. I mean, they are the same type of people that think nothing of strapping bombs to themselves or their kids and blowing themselves up in a market... Not too much of a stretch from there to gassing some civilians for the greater good...
Yossef Bodansky has an article out right now saying pretty much what you are. That the rebels did this to get us into the fight.
Then he points out that the same kind of tactic was used to get us into the war in Bosnia.
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Hell, I'd like to see the evidence it was Assad's forces that used them.
Oh, I'm sure the NSA and CIA have some, whether it's genuine or as fake as a certain alleged Polish raid on a German radio station is another question entirely.
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Oh, I'm sure the NSA and CIA have some, whether it's genuine or as fake as a certain alleged Polish raid on a German radio station is another question entirely.
Did the German station carry Rush L.?
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Did the German station carry Rush L.?
I'm sure at least someone on DU thinks so!
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